Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

So not to be one of those people, but has there been any further verification that Dayton shooter identified himself as a 'leftist' and a Warren backer? apparently on a twitter profile. Or is this some kind of right-wing disinfo that isn't getting any play in actual press?

The most credible thing that heavy dot com has produced is that the Greene County Board of Elections does list his party affiliation as Dem: https://greene.ohioboe.com/apps/vtrpolldetails.aspx?idnum=212004. Mainstream media is probably not reporting on this angle since there is no reason to believe that the shooting was politically motivated and so it doesn't seem particularly relevant; mainstream media OTM.

so Trump's stance pretty much seems to be "the manifesto was extremely good, but actually shooting people is bad"

That, and 'video games, fake news and poor mental hygiene are bad'.

Am I the only one even slightly surprised that the El Paso shooter was taken with NO SHOTS FIRED BY COPS when others of us get straight up murdered just for opening a car door too fast?? Or are we all just used to this shit by now?

On the face of it the speech was fine; he made several points I completely agree with. The issue is that it was hypocritical coming from him, given that he regularly signal boosts online hate himself. Which works to our favor and his detriment. Also, even hinting that he supports background checks won't play well with his base (and if it does, then great; I'd love for them all to support background checks). Not sure how well his blaming video games will play with a lot of his base either for that matter. The old ones, yes; the younger ones?

calling for swift, decisive punishment by death not ok

xp yeah there's a lil thing called ethos

On the face of it the speech was fine

he got one of the cities wrong, said a whole bunch of bullshit, and blamed both video games and bipartisanship for massacres

(sic is making a joke because you wrote dfag instead of dgaf)

I wasn't joking! and got much more confused trying to parse this explanation in context: anyway sic I am saying that if I had a son I would say nope I don't think that's healthy, play FIFA or your guitar or jerk off instead

but hey, he remembered not to congratulate

sic I was simply saying that if I had a son I wouldn't let him play FPS games, and he would probably end up hating me

— dfag

I know now, I was still trying to figure out dfag from that explanation before Andrew's post. Our office regrets the error.

feel like Trump's immediate policy reaction is trying to package gun control in with an immigration poison pill should have been a bigger story

Also, I imagine his definition of a white supremacist is pretty narrow. Wafer thin.

Hey so I just saw a story about how the Dayton shooter kept a kill list and a rape list in high school so just spitballing here but maybe patriarchal violence is a problem.

the most insane part of that story for me was perhaps what i understood to be the fact that he was allowed to remain at the school?

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellievhall/dayton-shooter-pornogrind-band

Great, heavy metal is to blame

"The band's song titles are explicitly sexually violent, such as "Preteen Daughter Pu$$y Slaughter" and "Cunt Stuffed With Medical Waste - Sexual Abuse Of A Teenage Corpse." "

Pornogrind is a subgenre of a fast and extreme kind of heavy metal called grindcore, which is known for its mostly dark, satirical themes of sexual violence and gore delivered for shock value.

beside the point but can anyone at buzzfeed news write

The legacy of Anal Cunt lives on.

As a metalhead, i get more and more concerned about alt right presence in the genre. Far right fans are hardly something new, but the dude from Pyrexia was also disturbed. At least his body count was low.

Hey so I just saw a story about how the Dayton shooter kept a kill list and a rape list in high school so just spitballing here but maybe patriarchal violence is a problem.

― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Monday, August 5, 2019 12:16 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Was bummed when I saw that one of the Sunn O))) guys let white power bands run ads in his zine in the '90s... but wasn't very surprised.

https://newsone.com/3883585/dayton-shooter-killed-sister/

I may have pumped my fist once or twice while reading this

https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/god-has-heard-your-thoughts-and-prayers-and-he-thinks-they-are-fucking-bullshit?fbclid=IwAR1eHHFcPui_Z7k_38XLRMG2jBREe4Gm2j7CjIrXEiBulSnMOyaIiMbG93c

xp to a post far above about 8chan shutting down: I don't think shutting sites like 8chan down is a great answer. Maybe when they get to a certain size it's a good idea to break it up like an angry mob on the verge of a riot, but the downside is that unlike a terror org based on the other side of the world where language and ethnicity is a barrier, these boards are out in the open and pretty easy for anybody to monitor. I don't know why law enforcement wouldn't already be doing what many reporters are already doing, and camping out on these boards (and chat rooms) to study them and to try to understand and mitigate acts of violence. I know I've read that LEA has obtained IP records from popular image boards in the past, directly from the site owners. In a way these boards are a gift to LEA.

Am I the only one even slightly surprised that the El Paso shooter was taken with NO SHOTS FIRED BY COPS when others of us get straight up murdered just for opening a car door too fast?? Or are we all just used to this shit by now?

I mean, I can only speak for myself but I’m more surprised that they killed the Dayton shooter

the feds absolutely monitor those boards but i wouldn't trust them to actually be good at it

yeah, has that monitoring actually prevented anything yet?

the benefit of 8chan getting shut down as an organizing platform is more valuable than whatever intel u might crib from it

https://www.dallasobserver.com/news/dallas-activist-rakem-balogun-may-be-first-targeted-under-fbis-new-black-identity-extremist-threat-label-11705688

Let's be real, the FBI doesn't put white supremacists high on its list of targets.

8chanclid=IwAR1eHHFcPui_Z7k_38XLRMG2jBREe4Gm2j7CjIrXEiBulSnMOyaIiMbG93c

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Oh great, sic copycats

better than sick copycats

ctrl c ctrl @

Well that's sorted

A small bit of good news:

Rob Monster tried providing backup services to 8chan.

As a result, he and his company Epik were dropped by Voxility, which was providing their upstream service.

So now, not only is 8chan down, but so is the Daily Stormer, which was hosted by Epik.

❤️🖤🤣 https://t.co/R4pUNy9lkg

— AntiFash Gordon (@AntiFashGordon) August 6, 2019

hey the GUN doesn't PULL THE TRIGGER, I never knew that

xpost That is fantastic news! Fuck those clowns, have fun with your new Tripod site.

they're going to tor which will certainly cut down their casual and less fervent readership.

If it gets them the hell out of my random google search results, I'm happy.

"You can mine your own coooaaall....MINE YOUR OWN COOOAAALLL"

I see CNN is running with the "Dayton shooter had extreme left Twitter feed" story

Trump is def right about the mainstream media but for pretty much the exact opposite reason he thinks he is

Gotta teach the controversy.

developing: https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/news/crime_police/article_cae700c4-b86c-11e9-9f27-dff771536d92.html

looks like a pair of good guys with guns got in an argument and then a bystander got shot.

"Thank God this wasn’t anything near what happened in El Paso only a small gunfight in a crowded store."

Also, how much of a "good guy with a gun" are you gonna be if you fire multiple shots at a nearby target and don't hit him at all?

well it's a good guy with a gun, not a good guy who's good with a gun

Oh great, sic copycats

If you published bogus news/ads like this in a newspaper you could be prosecuted. Facebook used it to make $3.7B in Australia in 2018. Incredible. pic.twitter.com/utp63gjKeK

— Dan Ziffer (@danziffer) August 6, 2019

in the same year, the only remaining non-Murdoch daily newspaper publisher got sold to a commercial TV station for 2 billion. facebook is not less dangerous than 8chan.

"I see CNN is running with the "Dayton shooter had extreme left Twitter feed" story"

lasted about half a day (in real news; of course I'm sure Trumptards on social media are beating it to death). IMO it only underscores the need for more gun control. Fuck if it makes them support gun control then who cares. Anyway, in this case I don't see how his political inclinations are indicative of anything since he didn't leave behind some antifa manifesto or something, unlike the el paso shooter.

I've been seeing he killed his sister for dating a black man, so leftist shmeftist, he's a righty.