Rolling Marvel Cinematic Universe thread (+ a poll: Classic or Dud?)

Was rewatching Zodiac and realized it stars Iron Man, the Hulk and Mysterio. Wonder Boys stars Ant Man, Spider-Man and Iron Man. Can we think of any other non MCU movies with a similarly large number of MCU actors?

Given that 50% of actors in Hollywood will have soon starred in an MCU flick, it shouldn't be hard.

This was actually a recurring feature at a local movie trivia night: "What non-superhero movie stars (comics character), (comics character), and (comics character)?" They weren't restrictive to Marvel characters, though, which does open things up, e.g. LA Confidential starring Vicki Vale, Lex Luthor, the Penguin, and Jor-El. And I guess Aldrich Killian, but I don't think they mentioned him. The category was fun when you could solve it, but absolutely maddening when you couldn't, mainly due to combinatoric excess re: the number of possible Batmen and Jokers.

Giancarlo Esposito being eyed for a major role, rumors aswirl that it may be Norman Osborn. As rumors that may have zero basis in fact go, this is pretty killer.

he's got the hair for it!

Time for Disney to buy Sony too.

https://deadline.com/2019/08/kevin-feige-spider-man-franchise-exit-disney-sony-dispute-avengers-endgame-captain-america-winter-soldier-tom-rothman-bob-iger-1202672545/

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Does that mean Spider-Man will no longer appear in any Marvel movies?

Yeah, but thankfully he'll get to costar with Jordan Catalano in the Morbius the Vampire movie instead

I feel as bad for Tom Holland right now as I possibly could for someone half my age who has more money than I'd make in three lifetimes.

He'll still get to be Spidey, he maybe just won't get to drop in on Shang-Chi or whoever? Frankly I wonder what his role would have been in these upcoming Marvel movies, other than shoehorned in somehow. Also, I wouldn't be shocked if Marvel & Sony end up making a new deal in a few years.

He presumably took the job in part so he could play in the cool toybox, not to cameo in like a Chameleon movie starring Jamie Kennedy or whatever dumb shit Sony pulls out of its ass.

But he'll presumably still be starring in big, Sony-produced Spidey movies, am I missing something?

the mcu was clearly setting up a huge, RDJ-like role for spidey/holland. this lack of deal probably hits him in the wallet.

I guess it would be interesting to see how Sony disentangles the MCU elements from future movies (if the deal is truly dead; Variety’s reporting makes the breakdown sound less definitive than Deadline does).

When contacted by io9, a Sony representative said it’s their belief this dispute is simply over a producer credit and negotiations are ongoing. They further clarified that Feige has contributed to other Spider-centric movies that he did not receive a producer credit on. Other sources tell us the Deadline story is completely accurate.

Kamala Khan series coming to Disney+!

Plus Moon Knight and She-Hulk.

Moon Knight! Finally!

I wonder if Angie Harmon will finally get her She-Hulk casting wish.

How many series is this at this point?

More movie news:

https://io9.gizmodo.com/black-panther-2s-release-date-revealed-kit-harington-j-1837539099

Anyway, series as mentioned but:

Just found out they’re making a Moonknight movie and this better be in it pic.twitter.com/o1gQLLBtXo

— Cooper Wilhelm (@CooperWilhelm) August 24, 2019

Don't think I've ever actually seen Steinfeld in anything, but seems like potentially good casting?: https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/hawkeye-series-hailee-steinfeld-disney-plus-1203318859/

Don't know about good casting, but seems like potentially a good career move.

she was great in True Grit and Edge of Seventeen

that is great casting, she’s a perfect kate bishop

https://io9.gizmodo.com/sony-and-marvel-strike-new-deal-to-keep-spider-man-in-t-1838527425

Inevitable. Although less so is the deal to have Spidey straddle both the MCU and the Sony Crapverse. Nice bit o' extra walkin' around money for Holland.

Are you his accountant or something, lol

Only for Spidey 3 and a single MCU movie, I'm guessing whatever grand plans Marvel had for him are still kinda derailed. Still, much better than nothing, at least the Home trilogy will get a completed ending.

Popcorn movies reinforce cultural values of the moment. Marvel is brilliant at encapsulating the Kardashification of wealth and power as virtue. You can hang out in the mansions with the toys with your good looking friends and still save the world.

— Joseph Kahn (@JosephKahn) October 21, 2019

wow, superheroes as power fantasy, what a novel take

This is an important point to make right now, in the midst of a nearly year-long period when Marvel is releasing precisely zero movies. But you knew that, of course.

Why don’t Coppola and Scorsese come at their boys Spielberg and Lucas (ret.)? “Popcorn movies” have been around for a minute; I don’t get what inspired this round of, er, “commentary.”

Spielberg and Lucas' best efforts at 'popcorn' look like Bresson in this context

“Best efforts,” I guess... I’m much more of a Star Wars fan than an MCU fan, but 3 or 4 of the SW movies Lucas made seem no “better” than the best of the MCU.

Morbs, I have prepared a substantial bowl of popcorn and I await your defense of the Star Wars prequels.

Has Scorsese ever commented on Star Wars? I can't imagine him liking it that much.

Anyway, MCU seem way more defensive than Star Wars fans, for whatever reason (at least from what I can tell online, nobody I know in real life cares that people don't like their favorite movies).

that's called "cherrypicking" rogermex

however i thought Phantom Menace was about as good as the first Iron Man

Phantom Menace was a seeping fistula

v harsh on fistulas imo

Attack of the Clones was horrible, Sith slightly better bcz mangling of Hayden Christensen

The prequels are DC level bad

Sith would have been a cinematic classic had it been 150 minutes of Christiansen dying

Marty was a big expanded universe fan, and he was steamed when Disney rendered all that stuff non-canon.

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Just think how much worse it would have been without Scorsese et al’s thoughts on it. https://variety.com/1999/voices/columns/lucas-friends-approve-of-episode-1-1117492871/

i would argue the star wars prequels are more interesting than any marvel film i've seen but y'all know where i'm coming from here. marvel movies are way more anonymous

though i guess i haven't seen them all

First Star Wars movie heavily indebted to Kirby's Fourth World comics, so it's just as much a comic book movie as Endgame

The prequels kind of get an unfair rap in some ways; at least Lucas was trying to do new things. (Though I think Revenge of the Sith is a truly awful movie)