2020 Democratic presidential primary

God only knows what kind of socialists and socialism would be acceptable.

"more or less" doing a lot of work these days

I'm planning to vote for Warren because Bernie is 900 years old and I'm not really willing to flip a coin on an octogenarian's cognitive decline but they're far from identical.

It’s true they are different, Warren knows the difference between Keynes and Marx.

A socialist not endorsing Warren over Trump is a weird sectarian kind of socialists.

― Frederik B, Saturday, August 3, 2019

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words and public actions mean things, Shit Head Fred

Al Gore is a tool who kept saying "I agree" when he debated Dubya. HE lost the fucking election (not really, but he conceded).

and as always the 2000 obsessives never count up the minor-party righties in Florida, just cuz

biden is the only dem candidate who seems to be polling well in florida right now fwiw

Shit Head Fred

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, August 3, 2019 8:30 PM (forty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i know that official board policy is to NOT encourage morbs zingnames but this one is good, esp bc now i read it like right said fred

that was my first reading too.

I like Frederik B, hope he keeps posting

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Scranton born. Scranton-born.

I thought it was Drop Dead Fred

no! scranton born

Dundee finalist Joe Biden

Also idk why Shit Head Fred is making me giggle so much

But I'm in the Drop Dead Fred camp

Morbs in the tub asking a dude to get married and closing his eyes and Shit Head Fred jumping in the water and Morbs being all like ‘no not you Shit Head Fred’.

lol

this is the weirdest season of the bachelor ever

Confused at the posts upthread that are saying Biden is fine. If Biden even beats Trump (and thats a big assumption), he isn't undoing any of Trumps work

are we really already starting with They’re Both the Same?

I don't believe so, I think its somewhere in-between "Is Fine" and "They're Both the Same". Its definitely possible he would reverse some of Trumps actions

That is invalid. More like Better Is Not Good Enough. xp

Complaining about "purity" is how the worst Democrats try to shame voters into electing them.

My November vote is meaningless, and I'm never voting for Joe fucking Biden.

"f Biden even beats Trump (and thats a big assumption), he isn't undoing any of Trumps work" I find that unlikely frankly. He'll be pushed to undo a fair amount of it. Paris Accord to start with.

the problem w biden is not that he will continue trump's policies; it's that he will continue obama's and do little else. trump is nostalgic for 19th c./pre-crm america. biden is nostalgic for the tepid incrementalism of the late 20th c..

^^^^^^^^

right now biden is still the front runner to win the nomination by a decent margin, bernie is doing everything right but seems to have hit a ceiling in the polls, warren and harris have gained a little ground but not much

just for the record

There is no revolution coming. Stick your head in the oven now if you're waiting for one.

Is "revolution" shorthand for "Warren and Harris" in your analysis?

Or "Bernie"? Or what?

This is it for me

What worries the left about Biden is not that he might lose to Trump, though they do worry that. The first order worry is that, as president, he'd just grumble "folks, we're better than this" as the GOP stole his lunch money, setting up a GOP comeback in 2024.

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) April 27, 2019

There is no revolution coming

we've had one and are having one; it's from the right, asshole

we've had one and are having one; it's from the right

No, this (Trump, racist massacres, etc.) isn't a revolution, it's a regression to the mean. America re-asserting its fundamental nature.

trump was elected b/c he won suburban voters in swing states not because america is cursed by god to be a fascist state forever

no it's cursed by the Democratic Party

lol fair enough

conflating "we want something more than tepid 1990s incrementalism" with "we expect a revolution imminently" is unfair. sorta like "anyone not tripping over themselves to preemptively announce that they'd settle for retrograde centrism is aiding trump."

the problem w biden is not that he will continue trump's policies; it's that he will continue obama's and do little else. trump is nostalgic for 19th c./pre-crm america. biden is nostalgic for the tepid incrementalism of the late 20th c..

― Carisis LaVerted (m bison), Sunday, August 4, 2019 10:42 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

Maybe the party moved enough to the left that Biden, if he were to become president, would be forced to enact and promote stuff closer to Bernie/AOC or Warren than Obama had to.

as always, the presidency is not in a vacuum

McConnell needs to be overthrown

off a cliff

the problem w biden is not that he will continue trump's policies; it's that he will continue obama's and do little else. trump is nostalgic for 19th c./pre-crm america. biden is nostalgic for the tepid incrementalism of the late 20th c..

― Carisis LaVerted (m bison), Sunday, August 4, 2019 10:42 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

Maybe the party moved enough to the left that Biden, if he were to become president, would be forced to enact and promote stuff closer to Bernie/AOC or Warren than Obama had to.

― Van Horn Street, Sunday, August 4, 2019 11:27 AM (thirty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

maybe! but only with sustained pushback from the progressive wing of the party. my worry is that biden would treat his election as a mandate for his policies/centrism (ie dont push too hard on anything bc it will cost us political capital) and he will be supported in congress by the party stalwarts who will likewise exercise excessive caution.

I’m not suggesting McConnell deserves defenestration but I’m not suggesting we pass laws to stop people from having access to windows and wriggling, begging Senate leaders either.

Tim Ryan has "suspended" his campaign. Also, he cussed on TV.

Tim Ryan announces he’s withdrawing from presidential race and tells Republicans to “get their shit together” in same clip. #WhiteNationalistTerrorism pic.twitter.com/mhRiHN3l2m

— Neurology Doctor (@NeurologyDoctor) August 4, 2019

I hope this is the start of a wave of exits

we could call it tixet. or ryxet.

timex

here's fairly in depth evisceration of Gabbard's 'evolution' on LGBTQ issues by a Hawaiian civil rights activist; unfortunately dude has only posted this on FB but I think it's viewable without an account.

https://www.facebook.com/notes/michael-golojuch-jr/explaining-why-tulsi-gabbards-evolution-is-a-farce/10156786642754693/?fref=gs&dti=2240902096166538&hc_location=group

also that doesn't say Ryan has dropped out of the race, he has just suspended it. althogh I assume he will drop out completely at some point soon.