PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

yeah but he's still a posh bastard!

next you'll be telling me clarkson is from 'a part of doncaster which is actually quite smart'

and it wasn't bantz. To comment that Longshanks destroyed any notions of Welsh independence to an extreme he couldn't manage to achieve in Scotland, would be true.

your Top Gear comment is pure projection on your part.

I'd similarly say Cromwell did a job on my ancestors, and it wouldn't be meant as Top Gear bantz, because i'm not an English nationalist.

I enjoy thinking in terms of the long durée as much as the next ilxor but while it's true that in the context of the military campaigns of the C14th wales fared especially poorly, I don't think this or the notions of national character that ppl might want to base on it, are considerations that make for a productive assessment of the modern political situation in wales

lol whatever you total dick!

Lads can we all just calm down and go back to English-bashing as we normally do?

Just trying to knock some sense into the Welsh + bantz.

I'd rather be accused of being a murderous paedo than of engaging in Clarksonisms or being a Top Gear fan.

you know us proper english can't help ourselves, it's in our blood

yes I know "proper English" is a problematic term, I meant to put quotes on it - it seems like a term Clarkson would. OK?

tfw the monster raving loony party's brexit policy is better than the government's

UKIP were beaten by the Monster Raving Loony Party in the Brecon By-Election. This is the Monster Raving Loony Party’s Brexit policy. pic.twitter.com/q3v3t9teSK

— ellis (@e_c_k_97) August 2, 2019

xp yes, none of this is serious, just wish some of the chat abt wales was more so

nobody is preventing that from happening tbf.

It is serious to some extent, I think there's a severe inferiority complex in Wales similar to what used to prevail in Scotland.

i can remember poster ogmor once complaining about how people try and dismiss the influence of events from hundreds of years ago have on our current political make-up, when the most of the wealth in england is in the hands of people with names derived from the conquesting Normans.

Birkenhead Social Justice Party ✊

Nice "major announcement" there Frank, you self-important prick.

I think any inferiority complex is a symptom of underlying poverty and the wealth, power and proximity of england, none of which is going to change or explain the changes which have happened, or neglect from the rest of the uk.

All nationalism is a double sided coin of x-riority complex do at me

llads

lol & xp otm

to snuggle back into the more cosy territory of our lazily-assumed consensus that austerity is bad, here's a piece arguing that austerity not brexit was when the political order went to shit https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/economics-and-finance/the-shredding-of-political-convention-started-with-austerity-not-brexit

Difficult to see what the Tories are currently doing that is insufficiently Brexity for Brexit Party voters though.

In all seriousness, didn't leave on Mar 29th, haven't left yet.

In less seriousness, happy to set up a referendum committee on the readmittance of Calzino.

Kudos deems

ffffs

Not trying to feed a beef, but the bus I'm on has just passed a Street namef after Clarkson's great grandad who was a major glass player in the area and no doubt a first class arsehole as well.

The proportion of Tory voters who switched to the Brexit Party looks very small in comparison to the proportion who just stayed at home. Turnout was down about 10k, the Tory vote down by 8k. Loathe as I am to admit it, yr man being done for fraud probably played a part.

it’s spelled bœuf
xp

That is quite surprising considering it was basically petty fraud on a technicality - not that I'd complain.

Perhaps because it was such low level petty corruption that his rep as proper tory was done for.

> Clarkson's great grandad

he's related to the Kilner jar people iirc from Who Do You Think You Are?

Yep. Every time one of my kilner jars of soup cracks when I'm removing from the fridge I take a second to metaphorically spit on his memory!

The Tories refusing to reselect him after being done for fraud probably didn't help. I don't really think it matters what kind of fraud - anything that reminds people of the expenses scandal will do.

Frank Field is standing as an independent af the next election. This should be fun.

field's majority at the last election was 25,514 fwiw

His warmth, charm and easygoing bonhomie will ensure he holds on to quite a few those voters, I'm sure.

Curious that someone who agrees with the basic principles of UC and has a long history of demonising people on benefits would consider himself pro social justice. Those woolly backs must be sick of the sight of him by now.

the 'personal beliefs' section on his wiki is a rich stew of confusion right enough

Frank Field is standing as an independent af the next election. This should be fun.

― Matt DC, Friday, 2 August 2019 14:53 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

literally read this as 'standing as an incompetent' and was like, otm

george having a normal one

This is blasphemy @TwitterSupport This man is literally unhinged, deeply disturbed, deeply disturbing. And of course a Member for Life of the British Parliament #LordShite

— George Galloway (@georgegalloway) August 1, 2019

oh god this one is even better. this is the best tweet I've seen in ages

Dear @Pontifex This is intolerable. An offence against the memory of the Martyrs against the Church against all that is holy. Please Father intervene

— George Galloway (@georgegalloway) August 1, 2019

fair play the trailer for the new Cats movie looks good imo pic.twitter.com/oOZ4RCBP0x

— Stan The Golden Boy (@tristandross) July 18, 2019

you can see why Seumas calls him "chief" and considers him his most august friend of the left (´ཀ`」

Westminster voting intention:

LAB: 30% (+3)
CON: 29% (+1)
LDEM: 16% (-3)
BREX: 15% (-1)
GRN: 5% (+1)

via @ComRes, 26 - 28 Jul
Chgs. w/ 25 Jul

— Britain Elects (@britainelects) August 2, 2019

surely a bad poll when there is no LibDem surge or boris bounce, thank god those Corbynistas haven't got to Yougov. Apologies for low-level inexpert content, but I'm taking the slightest crumbs of comfort from it rn.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2019/jul/31/bob-geldof-firms-use-of-a-tax-haven-is-legal-but-damaging-to-african-nations

Geldof is an outspoken champion of African countries, and has raised millions of pounds for the continent through Band Aid and other initiatives. That he sees no contradiction in this type of corporate structure shows how depressingly routine the use of jurisdictions like Mauritius has become

"Give us your fucking money"

anyone else seen this bit of constitutional fanfic from fintan o’toole doing the rounds? seems to have been shared by half of my fb feed

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/fintan-o-toole-ireland-can-stop-a-no-deal-brexit-here-s-how-1.3972121?mode=amp&fbclid=IwAR2g-GrGgUQEJyYbwH-HtpmVxxNxyKrg64LsAIXDjdk8MTmjNkLZa4-aqaQ"> https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/fintan-o-toole-ireland-can-stop-a-no-deal-brexit-here-s-how-1.3972121?mode=amp&fbclid=IwAR2g-GrGgUQEJyYbwH-HtpmVxxNxyKrg64LsAIXDjdk8MTmjNkLZa4-aqaQ

gahhh

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/aug/03/priti-patel-home-secretary-wants-criminals-to-literally-feel-terror

She is literally thick as pigshit.