PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

BBC doing their best to spin the result as per instructions from Consevative Central Office.

*paying my respects to our first past the post system*

All of what you're saying is true and on the assumption that a chunk of voters went from blue to yellow then this result is the canary in the coalmine for a Tory strategy that's currently sitting between 'blunder' and 'absolute disaster in the making'.

Difficult to see what the Tories are currently doing that is insufficiently Brexity for Brexit Party voters though.

I mean from NF’s POV the more shit he causes for Tories, the bigger the payoff for him is when he “reluctantly” stands down in exchange for a sweetener.

Difficult to see what the Tories are currently doing that is insufficiently Brexity for Brexit Party voters though.

Still not racist enough iirc

xp

Failure to declare war.

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i dunno what part of the rhetoric towards the irish sovereign state youve not been payin attn to but its happening imo

Tell that to the Brexit party voters.

boris johnson will lose his seat at the GE. bet it

xp i am keeping calm and tugging the forelock as i normally do as far as those lads are concerned tbh

The only thing they could do would be a full on pact with Farage which would be like Christmas for every other party.

It would be stupid but...

surely Farage will call off his little pressure group at the right moment

so glad to not have to wake up to some chipper bbc voice giving it some boris triumphalism, but still fuck listening to LibDem triumphalism as well. Some of the commentary on Today was what a disaster it was for Labour. i can't recall anyone saying they were a significant player in this by-election!

Or the Tories do preside over No Deal and somehow manage it through...yes, that won't happen, just kidding.

calz IT’S WALES ! pits and, uh, lava bread and uh fire in the belly... jemry crombyn should have won by 50%

https://kmflett.files.wordpress.com/2017/12/corbynsanta.jpg

it seems Labour haven't done anything there since '85. Build a wall!

"get offa me, wales!"

Builth a wall.

A Friday feeling tweet?

9 days in the job and Boris Johnson has so far: tanked the pound; lost a by-election; squandered Billions on a No-Deal Brexit No-one voted for; and toured the UK prompting widespread calls for its break-up. So, I expect Labour is now making big gains in the polls...?

— Owen Smith (@OwenSmith_MP) August 2, 2019

Labour hasn't held the place in 40 yrs, I think. Anyone in mid-Wales who wants the Tories out always votes Lib Dem, inc. my socialist shop steward F-I-L.

Commentators: people should reach out across the partisan divide and vote for whoever is most likely to benefit Remain in their constituency.
Same Commentators: this result is a disaster for Labour

Quite sure that zebra is one of my weird left twitter faves now. <3

Do people not remember the stuff after Labour winning the Peterborough by-election that they were supposed to lose?

The only take from this pair of by-elections is that the Brexit Party is doing damage to the Tories and the Tories only. Johnson has got to make Farage go away, but its not clear whether that means The Brexit Party goes away, or whether the people voting for them automatically go back to the Tories. I've just not seen any analysis on these questions (no surprise there, the people meant to be doing it just tweet shit all day).

note that Owen Smith says 'Labour' rather than 'we'

Owen “29 inch dick” Smith would know all about big gains

it's interesting to see how labour have slowly tanked in brecon from it being a safe seat from the 40s to the 70s, getting around 20k votes, to narrowly losing out to the tories in 79, then gradually ebbing away to a truly terrible 1680 votes yesterday. seems indicative of when labour stopped caring about wales

Guardian article had a quote from a local who'd voted Labour until ten years ago, felt lied to by them, went Tory then felt let diwn by them over austerity, now "voting for Nigel Farage" and hoping they won't be lied to by him, because apparently that hadn't happened yet. Too many with that mentality nationwide.

blaming the voters is both always correct and always wrong

Westminster pays less attention to Wales then pretty much anywhere else in the UK afaik.

all the ppl arguing abt whether we should prioritise hs2 or manchester-leeds or whatever have clearly never enjoyed the totally unreliable diesel (!) service in wales

altho wales has been neglected by govt, the labour party and the media, we do remember them when it comes to thinking of where to dump nuclear waste

boundary changes might be responsible for some of the dribbling away too?

They don't exactly stand up for themselves, the Welsh, do they? Not anymore anyway. They almost had to impose devolution on them.

Longshanks did a proper job on them!

They have had the shit kicked out of them over the centuries.

great banter lads, it's like vintage top gear

think I've said the same upthread but wales is a good case study of the futility of devolving power without investment

not really top gear seeing as neither of us are proper English you fule!

james may went to school in newport, he's basically your celtic cousin

yeah but he's still a posh bastard!

next you'll be telling me clarkson is from 'a part of doncaster which is actually quite smart'

and it wasn't bantz. To comment that Longshanks destroyed any notions of Welsh independence to an extreme he couldn't manage to achieve in Scotland, would be true.

your Top Gear comment is pure projection on your part.

I'd similarly say Cromwell did a job on my ancestors, and it wouldn't be meant as Top Gear bantz, because i'm not an English nationalist.

I enjoy thinking in terms of the long durée as much as the next ilxor but while it's true that in the context of the military campaigns of the C14th wales fared especially poorly, I don't think this or the notions of national character that ppl might want to base on it, are considerations that make for a productive assessment of the modern political situation in wales

lol whatever you total dick!

Lads can we all just calm down and go back to English-bashing as we normally do?

Just trying to knock some sense into the Welsh + bantz.

I'd rather be accused of being a murderous paedo than of engaging in Clarksonisms or being a Top Gear fan.