psyched, this sounds great
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 August 2019 18:50 (five years ago) link
xps
heard the director namedrop Weird Tales and Lovecraft in an interview about this, so i doubt it's really a straight psychodrama
― circa1916, Thursday, 1 August 2019 19:37 (five years ago) link
I've avoided most information, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone suffered a case of Space Madness.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 August 2019 19:52 (five years ago) link
I think one could do a fine digital->B&W process, one would just need to do a lot of thoughtful adjustments to the RGB channel contributions.
One of my favorite B&W films of the last decade, November (2017), was shot digital, and in some segments, infrared digital.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19QZy1YHL50
― hedonic treadmill class action (Sanpaku), Thursday, 1 August 2019 20:41 (five years ago) link
I don't think every b&w video conversion is awful
I loved The Witch and have been really excited for this
― Dan S, Thursday, 1 August 2019 22:42 (five years ago) link
want to see November
― Dan S, Thursday, 1 August 2019 22:44 (five years ago) link
New trailer. Looks good and wacky. So stoked for this.
https://youtu.be/42_UHhpq530
― circa1916, Monday, 9 September 2019 22:50 (five years ago) link
!
― Dan S, Monday, 9 September 2019 22:55 (five years ago) link
Dafoe borrowing the Nicholson axe trot from The Shining
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 05:51 (five years ago) link
also expecting Popeye and Poopdeck Pappy to show up at the end
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 15:19 (five years ago) link
what?
― untuned mass damper (mh), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 15:26 (five years ago) link
just a lotta salty seaside snarling in that trailer
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 15:46 (five years ago) link
Ahahaha and here I was worried this trailer would spoil or reveal anything.
― icy bike chain rain (zchyrs), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 23:39 (five years ago) link
lol that is a good description of it
― Dan S, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 23:52 (five years ago) link
What
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 00:20 (five years ago) link
I’ve watched this trailer more times than I’d like to admit. For the What.
― circa1916, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 00:49 (five years ago) link
hmmmm possibly watered-down Guy Maddin
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 01:12 (five years ago) link
Did you see The Witch? Not remotely his angle.
― circa1916, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 01:18 (five years ago) link
I did not see The Witch, bcz it was called The Witch
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 01:38 (five years ago) link
First they came for people who saw The Witch and I said nothing, etc.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 01:39 (five years ago) link
Morbz i think you would appreciate the Witch.
Eggers is nothing like Madden
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 01:48 (five years ago) link
I am up for watered down guy maddin
― ogmor, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 07:39 (five years ago) link
― oder doch?, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 08:51 (five years ago) link
pretty excited for this based on The Witch, but not crazy about that 'what' scene, reminds me of how so many scenes in The Master just felt like acting workshop exercises
― “Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 13:10 (five years ago) link
Reading that interview with the DP posted upthread, apparently they made the weirdly specific choice to shoot this in the 1.19:1 Movietone ratio, which sounds pretty neat
― “Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 13:20 (five years ago) link
other films in the last few years have done same... Grand Budapest Hotel?
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 13:46 (five years ago) link
Yeah didnt Grand Budapest deploy different aspect ratios for flashbacks iirc? I remember a few others in the last 10 years that have been in academy ratio. Per that interview, I guess 1.19:1 specifically dates from the transition from silent to sound, the DP cites M as the big inspiration to go with it.
― “Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 13:56 (five years ago) link
― circa1916, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 14:26 (five years ago) link
well yeah theres obviously those parts, but imo a lot of the non-exercise scenes felt like actor-game stuff, like "what if we do a take where instead of the lines you sing 'slow boat to china'", etc. A friend described at the time it as "good, but like watching an acting contest" which I thought was otm.
― “Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 14:43 (five years ago) link
PSH and Joaquin are good actors and I think they did the acting thing well and in a way that was perfect for the tone of the film, but this is for another thread I think.
― circa1916, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 15:08 (five years ago) link
“a ghost story” used a v similar ratio iirc
― Clay, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 18:45 (five years ago) link
it was mentioned in the never coming to a cinema near you but those of you that aren't aware should check out british film bait from this year. filmed on a hand-cranked camera that films shots/reels a maximum of 28 seconds in length and developed by the director himself. a truly incredible achievement.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmydSyiR59o
https://www.baitfilm.co.uk/
― ban golf (jed_), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 19:25 (five years ago) link
weird, given its not that long since this story was given the film treatment :
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3520714/
― mark e, Thursday, 12 September 2019 18:41 (five years ago) link
xp saw bait tonight and loved it, thanks for the tip jed!
― ogmor, Thursday, 12 September 2019 22:22 (five years ago) link
opens in NY today
"immaculately curated"
https://www.artforum.com/film/nick-pinkerton-on-robert-eggers-s-the-lighthouse-2019-81048
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 October 2019 17:06 (four years ago) link
ah "curated"
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 October 2019 17:11 (four years ago) link
it's a dis
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 October 2019 17:15 (four years ago) link
It’s a dat
― Conceptualize Wyverns (latebloomer), Saturday, 19 October 2019 06:13 (four years ago) link
Whoa, weird, am I the first one to see it here? Or at least revive the thread.
Anyway, saw it last night, still digesting it a bit. A striking film certainly on that technical front alone, pretty much every shot is damn near immaculate; the Movietone ratio worked really well. Pattinson and Dafoe go at it but more in a slow burn than explosive way; if anything Dafoe's most self-consciously 'actorly' moment is clearly scripted that way and is hilariously responded to in context. It's often a very funny film but in the way that Samuel Beckett can be funny, if you like. There are 'big' moments but they all feel earned and I even had an actual jump scare moment.
In terms of whether it's 'fantasy horror' or not -- giving away nothing, it's very clearly psychological horror but could be something else. Weird Tales and Lovecraft, sure I guess, but more in the 'New England can be a fucked up landscape' sense (which given The Witch makes sense). zchrys's "a straight psychodrama about two dudes going nuts on a tiny island" wish upthread is pretty much all you need to know going in.
Music often excellent, pacing works incredibly well, being an actual lighthouse keeper in the 19th century at that place would have driven me goddamn crazy.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 October 2019 15:53 (four years ago) link
More on the location shooting here:
https://www.indiewire.com/2019/10/the-lighthouse-robert-eggers-period-production-design-1202184244/
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 October 2019 15:56 (four years ago) link
Well said, Ned.
I dug it, but I will definitely have to see it again to fully absorb it.
Bring a towel.
― Conceptualize Wyverns (latebloomer), Friday, 25 October 2019 04:32 (four years ago) link
splash zone in the first six rows?
― president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Friday, 25 October 2019 16:43 (four years ago) link
this owned, ned otm
― gbx, Saturday, 26 October 2019 03:08 (four years ago) link
Just saw this, & while I mainly enjoyed it, it felt like it could have been 15-30 minutes shorter. Not as narratively or thematically tight as The Witch. More shaggy dog story than fable.
― icy bike chain rain (zchyrs), Saturday, 26 October 2019 04:04 (four years ago) link
Further thoughts: the looseness of it all owes to Eggers' efforts to disorient the viewer. Like the characters, you start to lose track of time. This was handled pretty effectively IMO.
Also this is kind of an ideal film for the rolling masc. thread to discuss.
― icy bike chain rain (zchyrs), Saturday, 26 October 2019 13:12 (four years ago) link
It's often a very funny film but in the way that Samuel Beckett can be funny, if you like.
I'm still trying to make sense of the seemingly anachronistic reference to Ahab.
― Subaru owners I have wordlessly loved (bernard snowy), Sunday, 27 October 2019 15:50 (four years ago) link
Going to watch it in an hour. Two of my local colleagues complained it wasn't worth the fuss. Veremos!
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 27 October 2019 15:52 (four years ago) link
And yeah this film on masculinity was... a lot. I'm still coming to terms with (finding the words for) it.
― Subaru owners I have wordlessly loved (bernard snowy), Sunday, 27 October 2019 15:55 (four years ago) link
― Subaru owners I have wordlessly loved (bernard snowy)
I said "what the fuck?!" loud enough for my neighbors to turn around.
This wasn't much, part of the tradition of horror movies set in enchanted locations that drive the occupants mad, with overtones of early O'Neill.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 27 October 2019 19:45 (four years ago) link
IDK if the Ahab ref was an anachronism; Moby-Dick came out in 1851 and this takes place iirc in the 1890s? Of course the book wasn't really rediscovered and made canon until the 20th century. /pedantry
Still dunno if I "liked" this but it was a hell of a trip, that's for sure. The "may Neptune strike ye dead!" curse was one of the best things in it and I could have listened to/watched Dafoe do that for like another 5 mins
― icy bike chain rain (zchyrs), Sunday, 27 October 2019 19:47 (four years ago) link
lol, that's the dumbest response I've ever heard, Alfred.
poptimism disappears when it comes to films, for some reason that i can't fathom.
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Sunday, 17 November 2019 21:31 (four years ago) link
oh, you were serious? I thought we were joshing.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 17 November 2019 21:34 (four years ago) link
I've no idea what this means. Anyway, this is a message board. If you wanna discuss the movie, by all means, but don't be catty.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 17 November 2019 21:39 (four years ago) link
i mean, i'm only sort of joshing.
it's just that for films, there always seems to be a pile-on here (and elsewhere) of very snotty critics pooh-poohing the latest "arthouse" thing that popular audiences are excited about. of course, some of these movies might actually suck, but the tone that Morbz (and let's say KJB, for example) takes is just awash in utter snobbery that makes it seem like there are no good movies left. i don't think i've read something from Morbz *liking* a movie since i've been on this site, tbh.
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Sunday, 17 November 2019 21:40 (four years ago) link
it means that in a lot of film threads that i lurk on, there seems to be universal disdain for a lot of "popular" films, whereas the same disdain isn't directed at "popular" music in the same manner. i just don't get it.
anyway, sorry, i actually really like reading yr opinions on many things, not trying to be a turdmuffin, though obviously am, so i step away.
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Sunday, 17 November 2019 21:43 (four years ago) link
Actually, he liked Marriage Story and The Irishman iirc, but he can defend himself.
With all due respect, tabes, you're not around much anymore. KJB is gone. Most film discussions these days (when they happen) tend to be pretty good.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 17 November 2019 21:43 (four years ago) link
I get where tabes is coming from tho.
― temporarily embarrassed thousandaire (Eric H.), Monday, 18 November 2019 00:29 (four years ago) link
I wished I hadn't stayed up late to watch this rubbish. If the non-comedy captain birdseye accent and ropy improvised dialogue + gratuitous masturbation aren't embarrassing enough, it's just a nothing movie - both the horror and the psychodrama elements are piss weak and go nowhere. All involved should feel embarrassed.
― calzino, Sunday, 22 December 2019 03:45 (four years ago) link
I think there there was another so so Lighthouse movie from a few years ago that was still better than this shite.
― calzino, Sunday, 22 December 2019 03:51 (four years ago) link
spilling beans itt
― The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 22 December 2019 03:55 (four years ago) link
lol... and that capt ahab reference didn't quite glisten like the pecker of a sperm whale.. who get's paid for doing this stuff?
― calzino, Sunday, 22 December 2019 04:03 (four years ago) link
hahaha fuck this was so fucking good. It's been a while since I've seen a good midnight cult movie ala Eraserhead. This will stick with me for a long time. I hope either of these guys gets an Oscar nom.
― akm, Monday, 23 December 2019 19:04 (four years ago) link
Looked good, was tedious. Eggers has yet to "wow" me. His films seem to be reaching for some sort of thing - primal horror? - that I just don't think he's able to deliver.
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 23 December 2019 21:54 (four years ago) link
I'll take Ben Wheatley in horror-mode over this guy any day.
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 23 December 2019 21:55 (four years ago) link
I like some Wheatley, but hasn't captured the horror of awaiting the winter with a failed crop.
The Witch is doing a lot of things that haven't been as well done in the horror genre before. Most notably in period production design, but also in period daily concerns. Your 17th and 18th century farming ancestors had a very real chance of slowly starving to death, and by the end of harvest they'd know whether they'd survive the next 6 months or be reduced to beggars.
Yet to see The Lighthouse, but if Eggers ouvre remains period films with slowly growing dread, leading to his characters finally cracking, that's something new.
― Stupor is appropriate (Sanpaku), Monday, 23 December 2019 23:19 (four years ago) link
... and also timely. We're all watching the same news of the collapsing world, and some days its all I can do to stop myself screaming naked down the street. We're surrounded by others pacified with political propaganda, like having credulous neighbors in Jonestown (now there's a film I'd love to see a docu-psychological horror). A horror cinema of this sense of glacially encroaching dread, that its all falling apart and we're doubtless doomed, but which focuses on the psychological tension of the struggle to stay presentable... that's something I can identify with.
I liked The Witch quite a lot. I think its stature will only grow.
― Stupor is appropriate (Sanpaku), Monday, 23 December 2019 23:30 (four years ago) link
I was expecting something more tepid reading takes on this here. This was convincingly possessed and demented. Loved it.
― circa1916, Saturday, 11 January 2020 09:35 (four years ago) link
― circa1916, Saturday, 11 January 2020 16:20 (four years ago) link
I’m more of an Amy Jump fan
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 11 January 2020 18:13 (four years ago) link
when the two actors started autocritiquing the movie via each other's performances {You're a PARODY of an old salt!) i lost all hope
basically a Corman movie with drunken comedy and Prometheus baggage; nice-looking tho
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 15:38 (four years ago) link
i'll send tabes a list of the many movies i liked this year btw
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 15:40 (four years ago) link
Dafoe really makes Lionel Barrymore look like the king of Bressonian understatement in this
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 15:41 (four years ago) link
xp it better be a list of pop movies you liked this year or else his point is proven
― I Heard You Ain't HOOS's (Eric H.), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 15:46 (four years ago) link
i think Little Women, Ad Astra, Irishman and Dolemite count on that score
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 15:50 (four years ago) link
Also, a lot more pop than this movie tbh.
― I Heard You Ain't HOOS's (Eric H.), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 15:52 (four years ago) link
People are suckers for Grand Guignol when it's black and white.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 15:57 (four years ago) link
nice-looking tho
nice-sounding too
― I Heard You Ain't HOOS's (Eric H.), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 15:57 (four years ago) link
Hell yeah we are xp
― Baby yoda laid an egg (wins), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 15:59 (four years ago) link
and most successful when it's a comedy (again, the Corman-Price-Lorre films)
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 16:04 (four years ago) link
This is not a genre of movie https://t.co/pVnlAl3mVk— Shuja Haider (@shujaxhaider) January 28, 2020
― calzino, Wednesday, 29 January 2020 16:07 (four years ago) link
yeah I had that argument in 2011 when The Artist wowed too many people ("Silent movies aren't a genre").
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 16:07 (four years ago) link
So what tho
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 16:09 (four years ago) link
I saw this on Valentine's Day - I can't off the top of my head think of a film more likely to put people off sex afterwards.
A lot of weird authenticity when you read around about it - they built the lighthouse, a lot of century-old film lenses, they built the light and the foghorn (and most of the weather is natural) - but in the service of very keyed-up and unnatural performances. Which is great!
The real anachronism is that the song they're singing before they don't kiss was written in the 1980s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpWWWhc9QzI
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 17 February 2020 12:39 (four years ago) link
weird, given its not that long since this story was given the film treatment
He's been working on this since before the VVitch, I understand - though both Pattinson and Dafoe approached him after that and asked to be in a film of his.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 17 February 2020 12:43 (four years ago) link
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, January 29, 2020 3:38 PM
I was a little irked by this bit but I liked the film a lot.
I had heard it was a remake of The Lighthouse Keepers (1929) but apparently not?
Feeling smug about catching the Sascha Schneider influence.https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4198/34681056660_492c0f4fd4_o.jpg
https://www.bfi.org.uk/news-opinion/sight-sound-magazine/features/lighthouse-robert-eggers-literary-visual-influences-melville-lovecraft-dads-armyhttps://www.bfi.org.uk/news-opinion/news-bfi/interviews/lighthouse-robert-eggers-influences
Would like to see this with subtitles someday because I think I missed a bunch, or a script to appreciate all the sea dog talk.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 22 February 2020 23:59 (four years ago) link
Getting excited for The Northman, and wondering if Eggers will ever make a film not titled "The ___"
https://www.slashfilm.com/the-northman-viking-film-anya-taylor-joy/
― american primitive stylophone (zchyrs), Sunday, 8 November 2020 13:16 (three years ago) link
Cool.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 8 November 2020 19:01 (three years ago) link
saw this, enjoyed everything. looked amazing and the two lads were game.
surprised nobody made a pattinson/day lewis link, i think he was blatantly lifting entire elements tbh
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 23:52 (eleven months ago) link
I fell asleep to this just as old mate was killing a seagull about a year ago. Figure nothing important would happen after that moment so haven’t turned it back on
― Peach’s burner account (H.P), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 00:29 (eleven months ago) link
(It’s kind of a funny idea the movie ending there as if nothing else happen and I haven’t been willing to ruin that illusion yet)
― Peach’s burner account (H.P), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 00:30 (eleven months ago) link