Veronica Mars

i would watch so many more seasons if they are anything like the calibre of this one

SO good

but plz Rob Thomas no more braek heart

can we get cybill in season 5? make it happen!

DUNCAN KANE IS BACK AND HE'S STILL EXPRESSIONLESS

I got taken in by this and kept expecting him to pop up, so well played.

so happy there was no Piz

i unfortunately love piz but i'm fine with him not being here, feel like that relationship is pretty expired by the movie

anyway i enjoyed this very much despite some loose moments as i mentioned earlier. feel like they could get into a real groove with another season pls

logan was doomed, rip :((((((((

^^^ sorry ENORMOUS SPOILER i forgot everyone was being coy

can’t believe Piz gunned him down, really a left turn in the plot

lol

Maddie was very good, I though. Well inserted.

Matty is also on iZombie, playing a very similar character.

Finally watched this and:

i just finished the new season

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

😫😫😫😫😫😫😫😫🥺

great season but gahh heartbroken. Goddamn this show.

I have two episodes left to go but Jason Dohring is really bringing that izombie catatonic acting to VM.

the overall banter though is still so delightful though.

Need to watch! Thank you for reminder!

I needed more of Veronica's new dog. Also, had the same strong dislike of new theme song at first but now it's whatevs.

I need them to greenlight another season

yeah not a fan of the new theme song, sorry Chrissie.

not enough Wallace or Weevil this season imo, Mac was missed, though I enjoyed the extended time with Dep... Agent Leo, my second favourite Veronica boyfriend.

and lol @ all the former villains (Liam Fitzpatrick, Tim the TA, Mercer the rapist) showing up for exactly one scene each.

Love Logan but he did seem a trifle lobotomized this season, I can see what Veronica was complaining about.

Maybe it's the $cient0l0gy?

what? oh, no!

noooooooo

https://tonyortega.org/2019/07/28/scientology-uses-actor-jason-dohring-as-bait-in-what-ends-up-as-a-false-imprisonment-case/

using the phrase "by NY Times best-selling author L. Ron Hubbard" on a flier for a seminar held at the actual CoS Celebrity Center is some amazing "we're reeling in people who know as little as possible" work

going to drop it now, but this is good sc1entology thread material and I don't want to sully the VM thread

ha, I almost brought up the scientology thing but I didn't want to make a mean joke because I haven't finished the final two episodes yet and saw the spoilers above.

yeah Hulu is only available through Crave in Canada so you have to pay for two services to get at it, which fuck that tbh

Wait, I only had to pay for Crave to watch it. I binged it over the last two days since I had a cold. Ending = holy shit. It was addictive and good drama/suspense. I do appreciate how they've adapted the show to everyone being 15 years older. Not sure if it was good mystery.

yeah the mystery was kinda “Agatha Christie starter kit”

tbh the mysteries on the show have never been all that great/distinctive. they're more just skeletons to hang the characters, relationships, perilous ethical/moral landscape and mood on.

s1 had the best one and it was pretty much just Twin Peaks redux

Hm, well, Twin Peaks reimagined as a naturalistic traditional mystery story is p much what I want from TV. Even with that one, though, iirc, the answer was m/l just revealed via the deux ex machina of the videotapes in the last episode? I feel like there were some solid mysteries of the week, which they've done away with altogether, although I'd have to rewatch to recall what they were.

Rewatching s1 does seem like a good use of the month of Crave I've signed up for.

Speaking of Peaks-a-like shows: I found the first season of Northern Exposure for 25p a couple of days ago. That was compared to TP a lot, wasn’t it? I don’t think I ever watched it.

compared?? related 'quirky' northwest settings maybe but

lol yeah that is not a good comparison at all

VM is more bad-ass PI (meaning a cop without a police structure) than sherlock-style clue detection for sure

Veronica's deep, deep damage really coming to the forefront in this season made for fascinating viewing, I thought, great writing and great exploration of the character from Kristen Bell.

Yep, and it helped them to sidestep the most obvious/familiar potential sources of drama btwn Veronica and Logan (ie infidelity, Logan being a fuckup, etc)

I don't see how they can do veronica dirtier than they did this season but if they make another I'm sure they'll figure out a way b/c the genre probably demands that she won't get a break

I'm not the only one! https://www.rollingstone.com/tv/tv-lists/20-tv-shows-most-influenced-by-twin-peaks-126797/northern-exposure-114701/ I'm just dimly remembering marketing from nearly 30 years ago...

yeah maybe her and Dick will hit the road and compare "my life is a series of horrors" stories

xp well, marketers are shameless

it's like Sherlock Holmes, there's no need to show Veronica progressing (the death knell of many awesome genre shows)... she can just be a deeply damaged badass over and over again

I super hope they don't bring back Piz or dunkindonut next season.

Northern Exposure intermittently had a supernatural weirdness that could be Twin Peaks-y I guess.

It started in 1990 - twin peaks was perhaps an obvious touchstone (though I guess I’ll have to watch it to find out if it was the writers or the critics doing the touching)

Ha, reviewing the first two eps, I had forgotten how much the show emphasized beatdowns as a model for adolescent conflict resolution.

halfway through this new season and I'm loving it - it's aged exactly as it should, perfectly in sync with its audience.
One small thing though, has Weevil always looked like a pre-teen dressed up as 90's gangsta for Halloween? Or did they make it worse by trying to age the character?

https://www.cbr.com/veronica-mars-tina-majorino-rob-thomas-book-report-promise/

I'm avoiding the recent part of this thread because I haven't been able to see this yet- but could some kind person have a look at this DVD on Amazon and see if it looks like s4 from the description etc? It's labelled season 1 but released 22 October 2019. Thanks!

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Veronica-Mars-Complete-First-Season/dp/B07VBH7242/

Description is def the new season