Quentin Tarantino's Manson murders movie

Imo Manson has next to nothing to do with this movie. Manson does have everything to do with the last 20 minutes or so, but then again, I'm not sure if the last 20 minutes or so have anything to do with the movie either.

seemed obv to me that the last 20 mins is the alternative fiction jumping off pt to the whole thing & qt worked backwards from there; idk if the movie works w/o it (to the extent it 'works'); agree w jordan that idk why this was made + it is p indulgent; that said, its absolutely the qt movie i've enjoyed the most since the kill bills

The ending was an almost out of body experience for me and my family,

flappy family

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hey uppmiss, I was talkin bout culture only, like pushing the Beatles in yer face nonstop awww boohoo

I liked that Sharon Tate is depicted as a slapstick comedienne rather than a tragic, sacrificial love goddess. But the total film is an extensive and expansive wankfest for Tarantino.

Thought this was personal, idiosyncratic, rich, beautifully designed, and utterly pointless / mildly insulting

So basically on recent par

it's true that as 70s kids we grew up with the cynicism of everything having a "dark underbelly"

See also: growing up any time during the entire 20th century. The 70's don't have no special claims.

(xpost) If you delete mildly insulting, that's a perfect description of my reaction to Phantom Thread.

Phantom Thread had more laughs.

That old Manson magic. Public can't get enough of it.

damn u autocorrect

You look at this, though, and wonder how it affects the choices behind this Manson movie.

hey uppmiss, I was talkin bout culture only, like pushing the Beatles in yer face nonstop awww boohoo

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, July 28, 2019 7:06 PM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

The Beatles were a pretty cool band with some good tunes no need to be sad amigo 🙂

I am beginning to entertain the idea that the fake ending that originally circulated would have at least been a full measure.

And yet Bad Times at the El Royals sank without a trace...

Bad Times at the El Royale With Cheese?

"But the total film is an extensive and expansive wankfest for Tarantino."

it sounds like he might be *cleaning up* in the foot fetish category of the porn oscars, the sad twat.

They deserved it and I had a blast watching those three scum fucks die!

This is like exactly what the most scolding, alarmist, finger-wagging 90s critics of his onscreen violence predicted he would do to his audience, congrats.

I thought kinkshaming was bad now?

that rule doesn't apply to people called Quentin who clearly like to mix a bit of wanking with work.

I honestly didn't notice the feet when I was watching the movie, I think a lot of you just think about Quentin Tarantino jacking off more than I do....and that's okay, no judgment

oh come off it... oops possibly bad choice of words there.

Pretty prominent foot shot in this one.

Xpost lol

Multiple foot shots! In multiple scenes!

And lots of shots of barefoot girls (all of them are barefoot) padding around.

QT: The Russ Meyer of Feet.

QT feet = fine, whatever
Dan Schneider feet = bad

*writes in notebook*

Josh how did those shots make you feel?

*tents fingers*

In all seriousness though
I was just watching the movie and I guess I dunno, it wasn't something I noticed, i hadn't even heard of the foot thing until this thread

Tbh I never noticed the foot stuff either until it started being a thing that ppl made fun of a lot, post Kill Bill I think?

There is a dinner in Buñuel's honour at George Cukor's house in Hollywood in 1972. Fifteen famous directors are there, including John Ford, Rouben Mamoulian, Robert Mulligan, George Stevens, Robert Wise, William Wyler, Billy Wilder. Hitchcock sits next to Buñuel, says very little, then at one point puts an arm round his companion's shoulder and says with deep admiration: "Buñuel, that wooden leg in Tristana. That wooden leg."

There is lots of skeezy stuff about Tarantino that connects right to this movie. For example, his provocative past defense of Polanski (which he apologized for). Or his thing about feet, which has been talked about for years (including an infamous email that circulated some years back). And then tie that with his relationship with Harvey Weinstein (was this his first movie with no Weinstein credit?).

https://www.buzzfeed.com/donnad/quentin-tarantino-foot-fetish-detailed-in-email

And xpost obv foot rubs are even a huge plot point of Pulp Fiction!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCO-SBPTF5E

XP Trigger Warning: QT Penis Description Within

Josh, you win.

Onwards,

I thought the was a really affecting review, Pricilla Page tweeted it out

https://www.filmfreakcentral.net/ffc/2019/07/once-upon-a-timein-hollywood.html#more

I was really disappointed by the lack of Primus on the soundtrack.

Wow, man what is up with you

That was just a joke. I'm about to put on Sailing the Seas of Cheese, and I'm not kidding.

Reading about someone committing suicide, time for a Primus zing!

Oh, whoops. Honestly I didn't make it past the first couple lines yet, where I saw the Primus reference.

I didn't find that review even slightly affecting. Affected, maybe.

I'm sorry the writer's friend killed himself. One of my best friends drove off a bridge. It sucks. But he failed to make the connection between that and the movie (was his dead friend a Tarantino fan?), so the part of me that reads movie reviews for thoughts on art thinks that maybe he should have written a review of the new Quentin Tarantino movie, and then written about his dead friend on Facebook.

i thought the review was v moving - thx for posting ums

I'm w unperson for once!

Agree that it's not a 'movie review' per se but I would say he drew a connection btw the film & his friend well enough: this movie about male friendships, aging, the fragility of macho personas, & violence inspired the writer to reflect about his own recent experiences with same.

I found the film nearly worthless, except as a retro popcult wallow. DiCaprio's acting is terrible, let's not mince words. He does that thing bad actors do when you hand them a cigarette, he fiddles with it incessantly and takes a drag every five seconds instead of smoking it like a normal person would. And it was embarrassing how he persisted with that silly, implausible accent.

Maybe the closest the film comes to having a point is near the end when Tex & the girls are in the car and the Susan Atkins character talks about having been weaned in a culture of violence, but that idea has been expressed more eloquently by the Manson Family themselves, whose rambling pronouncements contain more wit than this script. Yeah I know the film is mainly supposed to be about male aging/machismo, but it's far too artless to impress me on that angle.

I'd rather have rewatched The Wrecking Crew than sit through this. Alternatively if it were just 30 minutes of Brad Pitt driving around listening to old radio hits while passing mock-ups of old LA hotspots that would encapsulate all the joy I got from it.

ughhhhhhhhh you guys suck

this movie is SO good and all you nerds do is complain i cant stand it

seriously go back to the star trek thread nerds

I saw it last night and loved it. Was completely blown away by how convincingly it immerses you in that world. I thought the easy going pace gave it a great vibe, and damn, Brad Pitt is aging quite well. The whole ranch sequence was incredibly creepy, and captured exactly how I had imagined it.

The actual climax was the only bum note, disappointing in part because as soon as they announced it was a Manson family movie with Leo and Brad, it was obvious where Tarantino would go with it. That scene though was mostly redeemed by the final shot that gave it an unsettling poignancy, as if it was making clear that no, these people really died horrific deaths and will never come back, this was merely a fairy tale.

i thought it was cool that Rick’s episode of Lancer was really directed by Sam Wannamaker who really wore a cape irl, and really starred James Stacy (Oliphant) and Wayne Maunder (Luke Perry)