Quentin Tarantino's Manson murders movie

Well...I don't know: I thought you just had to adjust the https on a YouTube. Anyway, it's at youtube.com/watch?v=eJJYVORSP_w&t=92s.

looks like first weekend will be between 40-45 million, QT's best opening weekend ever

That old Manson magic. Public can't get enough of it.

Was messaging with a Gen-X friend who's a playwright and who also grew up as a Helter Skelter fan and wroteL "For me, it was like the monsters came alive. Sheesh, us Gen Xers have had those specters haunting us for 50 yrs. Good “what if” tale that tries to exorcise that pain."

And it's true that as 70s kids we grew up with the cynicism of everything having a "dark underbelly" and to me as well the movie has a tone that feels like SoCal Tarantino in a world where Manson never existed.

Right, of course it's on a significantly smaller scale than WWII - but it is a shared cultural trauma nonetheless.

"shared cultural trauma" lol stop it!

How is it not? By no means is it WWII but it’s an American tragedy nonetheless - is “shared pop cultural trauma” any better?

I've talked to a few friends that want to see it based on ads and they don't really seem to know Manson has anything to do with it

Gen X's elevation of this subliterate to cultural godhead will never be forgiven. Puts all boomer crimes in perspective.

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, July 27, 2019 11:48 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Dismantling the social safety net, speeding the world toward climate apocalypse....liking Quentin Tarantino....six of one, half dozen of the other

Imo Manson has next to nothing to do with this movie. Manson does have everything to do with the last 20 minutes or so, but then again, I'm not sure if the last 20 minutes or so have anything to do with the movie either.

seemed obv to me that the last 20 mins is the alternative fiction jumping off pt to the whole thing & qt worked backwards from there; idk if the movie works w/o it (to the extent it 'works'); agree w jordan that idk why this was made + it is p indulgent; that said, its absolutely the qt movie i've enjoyed the most since the kill bills

The ending was an almost out of body experience for me and my family,

flappy family

☺️

hey uppmiss, I was talkin bout culture only, like pushing the Beatles in yer face nonstop awww boohoo

I liked that Sharon Tate is depicted as a slapstick comedienne rather than a tragic, sacrificial love goddess. But the total film is an extensive and expansive wankfest for Tarantino.

Thought this was personal, idiosyncratic, rich, beautifully designed, and utterly pointless / mildly insulting

So basically on recent par

it's true that as 70s kids we grew up with the cynicism of everything having a "dark underbelly"

See also: growing up any time during the entire 20th century. The 70's don't have no special claims.

(xpost) If you delete mildly insulting, that's a perfect description of my reaction to Phantom Thread.

Phantom Thread had more laughs.

That old Manson magic. Public can't get enough of it.

damn u autocorrect

You look at this, though, and wonder how it affects the choices behind this Manson movie.

hey uppmiss, I was talkin bout culture only, like pushing the Beatles in yer face nonstop awww boohoo

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, July 28, 2019 7:06 PM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

The Beatles were a pretty cool band with some good tunes no need to be sad amigo 🙂

I am beginning to entertain the idea that the fake ending that originally circulated would have at least been a full measure.

And yet Bad Times at the El Royals sank without a trace...

Bad Times at the El Royale With Cheese?

"But the total film is an extensive and expansive wankfest for Tarantino."

it sounds like he might be *cleaning up* in the foot fetish category of the porn oscars, the sad twat.

They deserved it and I had a blast watching those three scum fucks die!

This is like exactly what the most scolding, alarmist, finger-wagging 90s critics of his onscreen violence predicted he would do to his audience, congrats.

I thought kinkshaming was bad now?

that rule doesn't apply to people called Quentin who clearly like to mix a bit of wanking with work.

I honestly didn't notice the feet when I was watching the movie, I think a lot of you just think about Quentin Tarantino jacking off more than I do....and that's okay, no judgment

oh come off it... oops possibly bad choice of words there.

Pretty prominent foot shot in this one.

Xpost lol

Multiple foot shots! In multiple scenes!

And lots of shots of barefoot girls (all of them are barefoot) padding around.

QT: The Russ Meyer of Feet.

QT feet = fine, whatever
Dan Schneider feet = bad

*writes in notebook*

Josh how did those shots make you feel?

*tents fingers*

In all seriousness though
I was just watching the movie and I guess I dunno, it wasn't something I noticed, i hadn't even heard of the foot thing until this thread

Tbh I never noticed the foot stuff either until it started being a thing that ppl made fun of a lot, post Kill Bill I think?

There is a dinner in Buñuel's honour at George Cukor's house in Hollywood in 1972. Fifteen famous directors are there, including John Ford, Rouben Mamoulian, Robert Mulligan, George Stevens, Robert Wise, William Wyler, Billy Wilder. Hitchcock sits next to Buñuel, says very little, then at one point puts an arm round his companion's shoulder and says with deep admiration: "Buñuel, that wooden leg in Tristana. That wooden leg."

There is lots of skeezy stuff about Tarantino that connects right to this movie. For example, his provocative past defense of Polanski (which he apologized for). Or his thing about feet, which has been talked about for years (including an infamous email that circulated some years back). And then tie that with his relationship with Harvey Weinstein (was this his first movie with no Weinstein credit?).

https://www.buzzfeed.com/donnad/quentin-tarantino-foot-fetish-detailed-in-email

And xpost obv foot rubs are even a huge plot point of Pulp Fiction!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCO-SBPTF5E

XP Trigger Warning: QT Penis Description Within

Josh, you win.

Onwards,

I thought the was a really affecting review, Pricilla Page tweeted it out

https://www.filmfreakcentral.net/ffc/2019/07/once-upon-a-timein-hollywood.html#more

I was really disappointed by the lack of Primus on the soundtrack.

Wow, man what is up with you

That was just a joke. I'm about to put on Sailing the Seas of Cheese, and I'm not kidding.

Reading about someone committing suicide, time for a Primus zing!

Oh, whoops. Honestly I didn't make it past the first couple lines yet, where I saw the Primus reference.