Alex Kingston has been to the end of the universe with the Dr, she talked to him with the psychic paper like the Face of Boe did, and she's flirting with him a lot. She's Captain Jack.
Sorry, I'm just being silly now.
― limón, Monday, 2 June 2008 15:24 (fifteen years ago) link
Revelations and speculations aside, I thought this was a pretty great episode -- but it did feel a little rushed and even "stagey" -- maybe as if Moffat was writing for the studio sitcom audience. Having said that, I'd rather have an ideas-full rushed episode than another Ood/Titanic non-starter.
Also, as Matt points out: Shadow = Scary. Living Skeleton Spacesuit with Four Shadows = Holy Fuck.
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 2 June 2008 16:29 (fifteen years ago) link
And that first shot of the skull inside the space suit gets my vote for "Nu-Who moment most likely to have scarred me severely as a child" of the four series so far...
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 2 June 2008 16:31 (fifteen years ago) link
i think she is his future biographer
― remy bean, Monday, 2 June 2008 18:04 (fifteen years ago) link
I do not much care for that curly-hairded flirtface.
― Abbott, Monday, 2 June 2008 18:14 (fifteen years ago) link
oh, i kinda liked her a lot. she is more self-assured than either rose or martha, without the self-lampooning seriousness of donna.
― remy bean, Monday, 2 June 2008 18:23 (fifteen years ago) link
if i was a kid i wld totally be having nightmares abt the skeleton in a space suit zombie shadow monster!!
― rrrobyn, Monday, 2 June 2008 18:33 (fifteen years ago) link
Perhaps, Alex K is the little girl and also she is the Rani.
― Free Peace Sweet!, Monday, 2 June 2008 18:34 (fifteen years ago) link
it wld be awesome if flirtface were some incarnation of captain jack - she does act like him! i doubt she is the dr's wife, if only b/c i do not want the dr to have a wife
― rrrobyn, Monday, 2 June 2008 18:35 (fifteen years ago) link
Captain Jack is already immortal, having a regeneration as well would just be greedy.
― Matt DC, Monday, 2 June 2008 18:38 (fifteen years ago) link
Incidentally does she have a name yet?
yeah i know she's not cpt jack, but she's like him, a lot. xpost professor river song!
― rrrobyn, Monday, 2 June 2008 18:41 (fifteen years ago) link
i think we shld read into that name
― rrrobyn, Monday, 2 June 2008 18:49 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.rossanthony.com/R/images/riverdance.jpg
― Alba, Monday, 2 June 2008 18:55 (fifteen years ago) link
Before they cangd it, the next episode was going to be called River's Run.
― DavidM, Monday, 2 June 2008 19:03 (fifteen years ago) link
cangd = changed
Could she actually be a future Doctor? Or Time Lady (Rani/Romana/other)? A baddie?
― DavidM, Monday, 2 June 2008 19:06 (fifteen years ago) link
She is an intergalactic massage therapist.
― Abbott, Monday, 2 June 2008 19:09 (fifteen years ago) link
who else has ever called him 'pretty boy'??
― rrrobyn, Monday, 2 June 2008 19:19 (fifteen years ago) link
I loved Donna's reaction.
― Alba, Monday, 2 June 2008 19:21 (fifteen years ago) link
I know Donna will not end up as repetitive crap abstract sculpture face but I really don't want her to.
― Abbott, Monday, 2 June 2008 19:22 (fifteen years ago) link
Like The Catherine Tate Show?
― Autumn Almanac, Monday, 2 June 2008 19:24 (fifteen years ago) link
I watched some of that on YouTube & did not understand it.
― Abbott, Monday, 2 June 2008 19:25 (fifteen years ago) link
Watching "Arc of Infinity." Killing off all the time lords and wiping out Gallifrey was kind of stupid/short-sighted decision. It's like getting rid of Starfleet; you lose the central and authoritative body for the main character(s) to belong to and react with/against.
― kingfish, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 05:17 (fifteen years ago) link
On the other hand, Gallifrey was never that interesting as a place or a society when shown on-screen: it seems to work better in absentia.
― James Morrison, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 05:27 (fifteen years ago) link
Gallifrey was only ever fanwank, and it only puts Doctor Who in danger of becoming Star Trek.
― Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 05:48 (fifteen years ago) link
Gallifrey destroyed? Well maybe, JUST MAYBE after an adventure where an entire planet's worth of people have been "saved" to a data store The Doctor will slap himself on the head and say HANG ON THAT'S EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE MATRIX ON THAT THERE PLANET I SPEND SO MUCH TIME MOPING ABOUT and realise all he has to do is press whatever Big Red Universal Reset Button he used in that adventure again.
― aldo, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 09:46 (fifteen years ago) link
Happened to Optimus Prime in the Transformers comic as well, and that was in like 1987.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 09:51 (fifteen years ago) link
matrix was kept in a fireproof safe, and an off-planet backup was sent off every week too. so this could work.
― Alan, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 10:38 (fifteen years ago) link
IT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING THE CREATOR OF THE DALEKS MIGHT DO.
Ahem.
― Matthew H, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 11:33 (fifteen years ago) link
HEY WHO TURNED OUT THE LIGHTS
― blueski, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 16:59 (fifteen years ago) link
NELLY FURTADO
― HI DERE, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 17:00 (fifteen years ago) link
I wouldn't put it past him to have a sex change though.
― limón, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 17:08 (fifteen years ago) link
was dr who geeking out with a friend who is way more drwhoniverse than i am and he posited that prof riversong is the doctor's very very last companion. he pshawed the wife theory but was into my captain jack theory if only b/c wldn't that be cool and yeah captain jack has gotta get bored of that body one day - also he somehow becomes face of bo, so how does that happen, some kind of regeneration something-or-other
― rrrobyn, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 17:17 (fifteen years ago) link
Face of bo - what happens when an immortal is decapitated maybe?
― Soukesian, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 17:21 (fifteen years ago) link
|O_O|
― rrrobyn, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 17:25 (fifteen years ago) link
i guess it's more like |~___~| rly
― rrrobyn, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 17:26 (fifteen years ago) link
face of boe was pregnant at some point too so...
― Roz, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 17:35 (fifteen years ago) link
(is this annoying yet? hope not)
― blueski, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 18:23 (fifteen years ago) link
Don't tell the others, they'll only laugh.
&-(
― Alba, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 18:25 (fifteen years ago) link
lol
― rrrobyn, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 18:38 (fifteen years ago) link
FACE OF BO WAS PREGNANT??
but obv before face of bo was only just a face i sort've remember this kind of talk of FoB family in that ep...
― rrrobyn, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 18:40 (fifteen years ago) link
i really hope this theory pans out
Yes, it's mentioned on some news programme, iirc, playing in the background in - I think - The Long Game, or some other series 1 ep. It was probably intended as a kind of a thowaway lol line more than anything. Rather than a plot point to take any notice of.
― DavidM, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 18:42 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah i remembered! hm
― rrrobyn, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 18:47 (fifteen years ago) link
One of the reasons I love Moffat's scripts so much is he's one of the only Who writers (that I know of) to do something clever plot-wise with the notion of time travel – Blink was crammed with great mindfuck moments like receiving a letter dated a hundred years ago from someone you just talked to a moment ago. I don't think the other writers really think about time-travel weirdness, they just use it as a reason that something can't be done.
― Brakhage, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 03:23 (fifteen years ago) link
And I don't count the patented RTD procedure of laying clues for the shocking series finale throughout the series, as cool as that was.
― Brakhage, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 03:27 (fifteen years ago) link
Bad Wolf was crap.
― Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 03:41 (fifteen years ago) link
I thought it was a pretty neat idea! No idea where they're going this time with the bees though.
― Brakhage, Wednesday, 4 June 2008 04:26 (fifteen years ago) link