What about 'chick lit'?
― pomenitul, Monday, 22 July 2019 13:13 (four years ago) link
dog latin you wouldn't "get upset" because they would not be talking about you
How about "Julie is truly dazzling"
"that chick" is syntactically unnecessary and pragmatically fraught -- just leave it out! like the sugar in your coffee, leave it out. learn to live without it. it's actually making your sentence worse.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 22 July 2019 13:14 (four years ago) link
i've always found "chick lit" insulting
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 22 July 2019 13:15 (four years ago) link
There isn't a non-derogatory manner, though. There's just contexts where offense might not be taken by the people in a conversation - if you can be overheard saying it, you're an asshole.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 22 July 2019 13:20 (four years ago) link
Chick Corea as well
― help yourself to another slice of apple ... crumble (Willl), Monday, 22 July 2019 13:20 (four years ago) link
How about "Julie is truly dazzling""that chick" is syntactically unnecessary and pragmatically fraught -- just leave it out! like the sugar in your coffee, leave it out. learn to live without it. it's actually making your sentence worse.― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, July 22, 2019 1:14 PM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, July 22, 2019 1:14 PM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
I didn't make the sentence up! It's a classic movie quote.
― ☮ (peace, man), Monday, 22 July 2019 13:21 (four years ago) link
That doesn't make it a good idea.
― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Monday, 22 July 2019 13:22 (four years ago) link
who cares? leave it out!
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 22 July 2019 13:23 (four years ago) link
broke: chickwoke: chuck
― nashwan, Monday, 22 July 2019 13:25 (four years ago) link
lads
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Monday, 22 July 2019 13:27 (four years ago) link
ladies, even.
― ☮ (peace, man), Monday, 22 July 2019 13:30 (four years ago) link
laddies is the preferred gender-ambiguous term. no need to speak to anyone, just lie on the floor until you die #ladsladslads
― ogmor, Monday, 22 July 2019 13:31 (four years ago) link
The linguistic hills people will die on always fascinate me
― brigadier pudding (DJP), Monday, 22 July 2019 13:31 (four years ago) link
I feel like in nyc they just tell you that two cards is the max they will split a bill.
― Yerac, Monday, 22 July 2019 13:38 (four years ago) link
I had a male friend who used to casually say chick a lot in the mid 90s and i still remember the withering looks & responses he used to get, until he eventually scrubbed it from his lexicon, scared me off it for life.
― “Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Monday, 22 July 2019 13:38 (four years ago) link
jeez how many withering looks does it take? i tap out at around one
― Vape Store (crüt), Monday, 22 July 2019 13:40 (four years ago) link
dog latin you wouldn't "get upset" because they would not be talking about youHow about "Julie is truly dazzling""that chick" is syntactically unnecessary and pragmatically fraught -- just leave it out! like the sugar in your coffee, leave it out. learn to live without it. it's actually making your sentence worse.― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, July 22, 2019 2:14 PM (twenty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, July 22, 2019 2:14 PM (twenty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
No sure, but I guess because it's a lot less common a term in the UK, it would probably just sound a bit quaint and out of place to most people rather than rude
― frame casual (dog latin), Monday, 22 July 2019 13:40 (four years ago) link
There were two years recently where I was calling everyone 'babydoll' and I have no clue why I was doing that.
― Yerac, Monday, 22 July 2019 13:40 (four years ago) link
Had you recently seen the movie Sucker Punch?
― brigadier pudding (DJP), Monday, 22 July 2019 13:41 (four years ago) link
everything sounds ruder in an american accent tbf
― ogmor, Monday, 22 July 2019 13:42 (four years ago) link
The only time I hear it in day-to-day parlance over is when one woman addresses a female friend: 'Hey chick!', which is always taken as friendly.
― frame casual (dog latin), Monday, 22 July 2019 13:42 (four years ago) link
I've never seen Sucker Punch. In college for one of the activities I was involved in my title was "chicktator". But it was college.
― Yerac, Monday, 22 July 2019 13:43 (four years ago) link
https://www.her.ie/lol/groovy-chick-where-is-she-now-315511
― ogmor, Monday, 22 July 2019 13:43 (four years ago) link
There were two years recently where I was calling everyone 'babydoll' and I have no clue why I was doing that.― Yerac, Monday, July 22, 2019 1:40 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Yerac, Monday, July 22, 2019 1:40 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnTUSgHzZx0
?
― ☮ (peace, man), Monday, 22 July 2019 13:44 (four years ago) link
― U or Astro-U? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 22 July 2019 13:44 (four years ago) link
xp at dog latinL that sounds like a different usage entirely, it's one of those terms where regionally I never heard it used as first person address, always second-person or as some descriptor
― untuned mass damper (mh), Monday, 22 July 2019 13:46 (four years ago) link
I haven't seen Tapeheads since college. I was calling people babydoll enough my niece started doing it.
I call everyone "weirdo" now and my spouse has been trying to get me to stop because I also call him that.
I am totally going to make a generalization here but I think asian owned places and super busy ones in nyc don't trifle with splitting your bill, running multiple cards. I was thinking of the sushi joints I have been in recently and some wine bars.
― Yerac, Monday, 22 July 2019 13:47 (four years ago) link
https://youtu.be/nEEiUr36zP8it was once socially acceptable to sample The Smiths
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Monday, 22 July 2019 13:51 (four years ago) link
The whole splitting the check thing seems like such a pain in the ass to me. But I am one of those luddite maniacs who still pays cash for things, so I would prefer to simply say to the person who's covering the check with his/her credit card, "Here's my share," and give them cash.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Monday, 22 July 2019 13:51 (four years ago) link
Most places using software to keep track of orders will have the ability to group all of the food ordered by a particular person at the table together so "splitting the bill" literally involves pushing a button to group everything by which people should go on which bill. It's literally a 30 second process and at the end you get a bill with all of your stuff and the tax you owe totaled on it so... no headache.
― brigadier pudding (DJP), Monday, 22 July 2019 13:55 (four years ago) link
Ideally the restaurant would have those handheld card reader tablets that they bring to the table and they could just walk around and run everyone’s cards. Save all the confusion of how much goes on which card.
― o. nate, Monday, 22 July 2019 13:57 (four years ago) link
has this turned into a tipping thread already?
― frame casual (dog latin), Monday, 22 July 2019 13:59 (four years ago) link
yeah it's a little strange that in the US we still allow random people to leave with our credit cards for like 5-10 minutes xpost.
― Yerac, Monday, 22 July 2019 14:00 (four years ago) link
Nor do you ever use your PIN.
― pomenitul, Monday, 22 July 2019 14:01 (four years ago) link
i still see merchants outside the US being surprised when they run my card and I don't have to type in a pin.
― Yerac, Monday, 22 July 2019 14:03 (four years ago) link
Can you still pay for a worrying amount of things by just swiping the card?
xp well that's answered!
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 22 July 2019 14:04 (four years ago) link
Is there a reason for that, incidentally? Credit card companies wanting payments to be as casual as possible? (Tbf having to sign is more of a hassle than typing in a PIN.)
― pomenitul, Monday, 22 July 2019 14:05 (four years ago) link
worrying amount of things = everything.
― Yerac, Monday, 22 July 2019 14:06 (four years ago) link
The whole splitting the check thing seems like such a pain in the ass to me
best believe i had to read this one twice, friends and neighbours
second vote here for ogmors suggestion of "laying on floor until u die" if we are going to go to the lowest common denominator of ensuring never to upset anyone suggest away from a thoroughfare possible under a stairs or something
― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Monday, 22 July 2019 14:07 (four years ago) link
I heard that when signing was introduced, it came with a taboo against actually checking the signature because that seemed more disrespectful than 'sorry computer says no, do you have another card?' - but I can imagine that's not universal, and I shouldn't base my view on class and money in the US on one article in the New Yorker.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 22 July 2019 14:10 (four years ago) link
is there another thread for stuff that's considered socially acceptable now that will be unbelievable in 20+ years?
oh yeah giving info to tech 100%, that probably won't take 20 years though
― flappy bird, Thursday, 18 July 2019 17:16 (four days ago) bookmarkflaglink
Counterpoint: freaking out about giving data to tech.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 22 July 2019 14:14 (four years ago) link
a lot of it is weird legacy crap in the US and perceived resistance to change
as in, people have always just put their card on a little tray, it comes back with a receipt, you sign it. restaurants are loathe to update their equipment -- which is now getting solved by being required to support chip cards, although that requirement isn't universal -- and the perception was that consumers would dislike a required change
a bunch of places I've been to switched straight from "take your card away to swipe it" model to "we bring a little card reader tablet to the table" which is fine
― untuned mass damper (mh), Monday, 22 July 2019 14:15 (four years ago) link
I'm used to contactless now, which seems safe enough insofar as you still need to type in your PIN above a certain sum.
― pomenitul, Monday, 22 July 2019 14:19 (four years ago) link
One of the most upsetting moments of my life was once when I was unemployed, I'd spent the entire day home alone listening to old Miles Davis interviews and then went to a job interview later that afternoon where, to my utter mortified horror, like an out-of-body experience, I heard myself refer to my coworkers at my old job as "those cats". 15 years later my stomach still does cartwheels remembering it. Amazingly, I did not get the job.
― “Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Monday, 22 July 2019 14:21 (four years ago) link
It amuses me now how paranoid as hell I was about contactless at first and was thinking what would stop tech savvy contactless pick pockets scanning you as they walk past them. ha, don't give it a 2nd thought these days.
― calzino, Monday, 22 July 2019 14:23 (four years ago) link
Heh, same here. I'm at that point where there are so many reasons to be paranoid about that kind of stuff that I've simply stopped paying it any mind.
― pomenitul, Monday, 22 July 2019 14:25 (four years ago) link
chip and pin rolled out weirdly and incorrectly in the US for reasons I cannot fathom
traveling in the EU with an american card is a pain in the ass.
― akm, Monday, 22 July 2019 14:26 (four years ago) link
it can be the other way round too tbh. my card will get randomly declined in the USA. some places also ask you "debit or credit", the correct answer to that question is "credit" (it is a debit card!) and forget about using your PIN anywhere, it won't work
tbh I don't travel that much and on the rare occasions I have been somewhere other than the USA it's been in the EU, so maybe that's why I don't have problems anywhere else.
― Colonel Poo, Monday, 22 July 2019 14:32 (four years ago) link
Actually, wait, what is the magic code for getting money from an American ATM with a UK debit card?
Is it just get some money before you go? I have forgotten, which is odd considering the obvious panic of "if this machine eats my card then I'll die here"
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 22 July 2019 14:37 (four years ago) link
― “Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Monday, July 22, 2019 10:21 AM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
This is amazing. At least you didn't refer to a former coworker as "a non-playing motherfucker with only one or two sorry-ass albums out."
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 22 July 2019 14:39 (four years ago) link