things you once thought socially acceptable which now horrify you to remember

this is an 'in line' 'on line' thing

sounds like one of those weird things where nyc people think it’s normal and everyone else finds it odd

like the concept of one table of diners paying on more than one check

that is...not odd? like i was very familiar with "we don't separate more than 4 checks" type policies way before i moved to NYC. at the two restaurants i worked at, in georgia and ohio, i separated checks all the time, the POS software had that capacity standard, etc.

in manhattan it seemed like I was speaking a foreign language if we wanted a two person table divided into two checks!

sorry, original post reversed it. everywhere else divides, nyc seems more of a “settle up with friends” region as a general rule of thumb

how would you tip in that insta- *taken out by sniper*

At first i thought by "following guest" that you all meant the cashier was announcing to their colleagues that they would be accompanying the customer around the store.

"Next please" - polite, concise.

"I can help the next customer" - I could have paid and left in the time it takes to say this.

"Following guest" - what the hell is this abomination.

'Following guest' sounds like a perfect example of I-am-totally-not-a-replicant-trying-to-blend-in.

Do the places that have automated 'next till' systems still say 'following guest'? Because it would sound even weirder coming from a recorded voice, wtf is wrong with 'next customer please'?

i say "i can help who's next" but i haven't thought my way into it, have no argument for it, and don't partic like it. maybe i'll strip down to NEXT. sometimes i say WHAT CAN I GET FOR YOU over a longer distance from counter to customer than is really appropriate.

otoh i have consciously adopted "y'all" despite living in a solid "you guys" state; perhaps this is dorky but it is also one syllable, like "vous", and it's not like you have to put on a voice to say it. the future, imo

saying "chicks"

the tough one for me is "chick" which i got all the way into my thirties with all friends of both genders using casually and lately has proven genuinely offensive to lots of people

Fuck that. Can't just let this slide by unquestioned. Normal people say "chick". It is 100% abnormal and weird to get worked up over it.

yeah it's a perfectly reasonable way to refer to baby chickens, wtf society

I've always mentally grouped 'Chick' with 'Broad' / 'Gal' / 'Dame' / 'Doll' as phrases you hear in old movies but never IRL.

e.g. Here's some chick posting "chick" about some other chick. It's normal irl conversational usage. It doesn't make anyone a 1930's gangster for saying it.

https://i.imgur.com/qonSvGe.jpg

Plus "Bird"

untuned mass damper (mh) at 8:13 21 Jul 19

in manhattan it seemed like I was speaking a foreign language if we wanted a two person table divided into two checks!

honestly it's happened to me more than once in the last month where I'm out w a male friend and the check comes predivided

LOL, one of my friends says 'doll', it's such an old time Glasgow thing to say.

again donegal usage there too

Fuck that. Can't just let this slide by unquestioned. Normal people say "chick". It is 100% abnormal and weird to get worked up over it.

The only people I've known in real life who say "chick" wore popped collars well into the late 90s. I've also never heard it used non-dismissively.

"chick" is a derisive term afaik + if the person was trying to pay a compliment and used the word ("she's a cool chick!") i would probably find them uncool tbh

see: "irreplaceable" https://genius.com/Beyonce-irreplaceable-lyrics

I think the last time I used 'chick' I was 13 and not entirely over cooties.

Ime, it was still common when I was in undergrad, which might have been when you were 13. I mostly only hear it from women now.

It was never, like, a word you would use to describe your English professor.

"That chick Julie, she's truly dazzling."

probably a regional difference really, with 'chick'

i mean, it's never really been part of my vocab but i wouldn't get upset if someone used it in a non-derogatory manner

But e.g. hardcore/punk rock people would definitely talk about "chick bands" or bands having "chick vocals". It wasn't a popped-collar-exclusive thing here by any stretch. 3xp

What about 'chick lit'?

dog latin you wouldn't "get upset" because they would not be talking about you

How about "Julie is truly dazzling"

"that chick" is syntactically unnecessary and pragmatically fraught -- just leave it out! like the sugar in your coffee, leave it out. learn to live without it. it's actually making your sentence worse.

i've always found "chick lit" insulting

There isn't a non-derogatory manner, though. There's just contexts where offense might not be taken by the people in a conversation - if you can be overheard saying it, you're an asshole.

Chick Corea as well

How about "Julie is truly dazzling"

"that chick" is syntactically unnecessary and pragmatically fraught -- just leave it out! like the sugar in your coffee, leave it out. learn to live without it. it's actually making your sentence worse.

― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, July 22, 2019 1:14 PM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I didn't make the sentence up! It's a classic movie quote.

That doesn't make it a good idea.

who cares?
leave it out!

broke: chick
woke: chuck

lads

ladies, even.

laddies is the preferred gender-ambiguous term. no need to speak to anyone, just lie on the floor until you die #ladsladslads

The linguistic hills people will die on always fascinate me

I feel like in nyc they just tell you that two cards is the max they will split a bill.

I had a male friend who used to casually say chick a lot in the mid 90s and i still remember the withering looks & responses he used to get, until he eventually scrubbed it from his lexicon, scared me off it for life.

jeez how many withering looks does it take? i tap out at around one

dog latin you wouldn't "get upset" because they would not be talking about you

How about "Julie is truly dazzling"

"that chick" is syntactically unnecessary and pragmatically fraught -- just leave it out! like the sugar in your coffee, leave it out. learn to live without it. it's actually making your sentence worse.

― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, July 22, 2019 2:14 PM (twenty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

No sure, but I guess because it's a lot less common a term in the UK, it would probably just sound a bit quaint and out of place to most people rather than rude

There were two years recently where I was calling everyone 'babydoll' and I have no clue why I was doing that.

Had you recently seen the movie Sucker Punch?

everything sounds ruder in an american accent tbf

The only time I hear it in day-to-day parlance over is when one woman addresses a female friend: 'Hey chick!', which is always taken as friendly.

I've never seen Sucker Punch. In college for one of the activities I was involved in my title was "chicktator". But it was college.