Seizing back control: The ILX lol brexit is how we're all gonna die thread.

"other nights i dream of savage clone-armies of wereworms undermining all major cities and the palaces of the powerful swallowed up into seething soothing sinkholes"

ILX is only read by 20 people but they are all being radicalised.

Great stuff from Johnny Mac, saying Jeremy Hunt has failed to protect UK vessels because he's too busy fighting the Tory leadership election.

Actually, based on having really enjoyed my trip to Stroud this week, I'll have David Drew as my next leader of choice, he seems nice

Jamie Reed is another one like Blenkinsop that spends most of the day trolling on twitter. Again spends most of his time cheering on any bad Labour news (real twisted mentality, that). I remember him for this:

@mmegannnolan
“I’m going to write about the English.”
Fine. Which ones.
“Oh, you know.”
No. Which ones?
“The evil arseholes.”
Ok. What about those with Indian grandparents?
“Not them.”
Jamaican?
“No.”
Irish?
“No.”
Scots?
“No.”
Travellers?
“No.”
What about the poor?
“...”

— Jamie Reed (@JamieFonzarelli) October 18, 2018

Not at all. Poor writing as click bait is mundane. Just don’t try to tell yourself you’re not a bigot. Try and be better. Hate for clicks is boring.

— Jamie Reed (@JamieFonzarelli) October 18, 2018

That’s your prerogative. Try and be better. Don’t be a bigot.

— Jamie Reed (@JamieFonzarelli) October 18, 2018

Be better. I didn’t earn my nationality, class, ancestry. Like I said, I know ‘hate for pay’ is where a lot of journalism is going. I know you have to front it out. I know you can’t acknowledge you’ve got it wrong. I know you have to conform. Just be better.

— Jamie Reed (@JamieFonzarelli) October 18, 2018

xxxp

Someone with a moderate opinion itt: I-
thread: wololo

Way more effective than the priests. I used to get so many killed trying to convert people.

Aztecs were the best wololo civ iirc.

Since I don't wish to derail this thread, Britons had subpar monks but made up for it with their top-tier trebuchets.

When you say Britons...

Celts were also a playable civ. I say 'were' but the game is still very much alive and a definitive edition should be out later this year.

The trebuchets were the best, just roll them in and destroy. Always made me laugh when the civ I was attacking wasted time rebuilding granaries or markets.

a chilling vision of Britain under Corbyn

Aztecs, Incas and Mayas would be his civilizations of choice, obv.

don't forget the sandworms

https://media.giphy.com/media/5t4CZ4QMyBT0I/giphy.gif

wololo

how did I not know this was a thing

at some point slightly earlier in the 90s I had a fever dream of a game of religious conversion when I had a week off school with the flu and spent it all alternately reading Terry Pratchett's "Small Gods" and playing Populous (perhaps slightly after doing an RE project on Lourdes), so I would have been very much into this

also what's good to do in Stroud? I think I went as a kid (my Nan lived near Cheltenham and had friends she'd often meet for lunch in Stroud) but as an adult I suppose I assumed it probably wasn't very good or they wouldn't have been reduced to teaming up with Swindon to form a building society

simon wren-lewis has been getting raked over the coals this week by the aggro centrists and gnasher crew, following his article expressing very lukewarm support for labour

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIVgm7YG8ZY

did anyone get to the bottom of why the new statesman “unpublished” it?

jason cowley?

well yes but i was interested to see if he had at least attempted to explain why.

a specific bone of contention seems to have been a somewhat casually expressed comparison in mechanics of response wrt clinton’s email server and labour’s anti-semitism. swl should have been more careful possibly, but that can be corrected editorially. rather than just removed.

honestly this feels like it was 300 years ago :|

Four years to the day since Labour whipped MPs to abstain on the welfare bill, a disgraceful decision that showed how foolish triangulation was electorally, and how much harm it caused the poorest: https://t.co/5eCtDEwprU

— Dawn Foster (@DawnHFoster) July 20, 2019

hate 'em or really fucking hate 'em I say. Another companion piece to this one was them jetting Loyd Webber in from New York to vote for a cutting working tax credits bill in the Lords... happy brexit free days!

When I see blairite scum.. I see something much worse than tories.

I never have felt such hatred for politicians as I did at that moment.

for some reason I didn't think Khan had voted against it, but I knew Thornberry had abstained - a lot of her voting record is dodgy.

lol Iain Wright voted against it as well.

Totally forgot that while interim leader in 2010, Harriet Harman also fucked up on letting Tories blame the recession on Labour/public spending.

that was always such a unconditionally false line of attack, and one so simple to challenge and debunk. I think one of the problems might have been weak leadership.

There was a Zoe Williams profile of Harman (her MP at the time) where Zoe suggested HH was not all that bright.

she was very bad, but you can't blame her for Miliband Labour being just as fainthearted against the same spurious crap in 2015.

"not all that bright" is one of the least offensive accusations you could direct at HH.

Harman and Hewitt were brilliant civil rights lawyers in their day.

Gloria De Piero: "..when I hear people being called right wing in the Labour Party I find it utterly offensive. We are all left wingers in this Party - that is why we joined the Labour Party"

ION: Kate Hoey in talks to become the first Brexit Party MP.

Reminds me of this classic Chris Leslie (RIP, I wanna run to u, etc) clip: https://youtu.be/Ylfnc7lviBc

it's corpses in mouths all the way down, kids

Meanwhile, this report is fucking hilarious (not surprising when you see who one of the authors is): https://www.gold.ac.uk/news/ideology-of-sectarian-far-left-report/

these cunts should be doing an internal report on why they inflicted so much talentless YBA dross on the world. I see Hirsh has very balanced views on Corbynism and isn't at all a sour Blairite. Tweeting some text that a friend of his apparently sent him saying Corbyn is Mel Gibson in a Corbyn mask. Very classy.

Tommy Robinson "decked" by a 70-year-old man on his first day in jail

"He is said to have tried to intimidate the pensioner who responded by dropping him with a single punch." https://t.co/4Ubp9LpKtw

— Josh Butler (@JoshButler) July 20, 2019

70-year-old man, thank you for your service

I don't even care if it is a made up tabloid story, for all the vile troglodytes it winds up it'll do for me.

Every now and then the prison-industrial complex accidentally metes out justice.

And yeah, I want to believe.

If the gossip in the papers today is accurate, the ‘woman to get one of the big four jobs’ is Patel at the Home Office, rather than Truss at no.11. That’s terrifying.

Michael ‘the Good Friday Agreement was a mortal stain’ Gove heading for Northern Ireland.

AS minisite seems like a good step: https://labour.org.uk/no-place-for-antisemitism

(xp) I'm sure I saw a headline today about Boris not being one to hold grudges - and also that he might be putting Gove in NI. Does not compute.

“Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer”

lol you do know that the person who said this was a FICTIONAL MAFIA BOSS and that the other pithy thing he said (not abt family) was "Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in"

who do you think the "they" refers to in the second quote?

The DUP?

Michael Corleone:I saw a strange thing today. A rebel was being arrested by the military police. And rather than be taken alive he exploded a grenade he had hidden in his jacket.He killed himself and took a captain of the command with him. Now, soldiers are paid to fight; the rebels aren't
Hyman Roth: What does that tell you?
Michael Corleone: They could win

Sil does a very funny ham reading of that line in The Sorpranos. And then some people out there make daft gangster quote memes attributing that line to his character. Just saying!

I really hope that gossip is wrong because Patel at the Home Office and Gove at Northern Ireland would be two of the most disastrous decisions Johnson could make, as bad or worse than some of the appointments May made at the start of her Premiership.

Thinking back to the other day's discussion about leadership, and the extent to which the personality and judgement of the incoming PM matters, the decisions that will be announced over the next week or so are one reason why it does, no matter how much we might want it to be otherwise.

Caveat - the media is disproportionately focused on vacuous Westminster theatre at the expense of what happens at local/street level, which is one reason why they got the 2017 election badly wrong. Leaders in general gain their authority or lack of it from movements and wider social or historical forces, and Johnson is being propelled to Number 10 by forces that are fucking deranged and detached from reality and would probably have put someone like him in power regardless. The forces opposed to him are one reason why he probably won't stay there for very long.

Quite possibly we would have ended up with Brexit anyway eventually, but ultimately we're in this very particular situation now because of bad decisions made by a handful of stupid, hubristic or complacent individuals, and what Johnson himself chooses to do from here on matters. The only hope is that his government is highly unlikely to last very long and is probably going to be too repellent to enough of the electorate to prevent it winning a majority.