for my sins i read back some of the ludicrous last bump and its worth making a full and frank admission of being overly dickish to oûtiç (cant do the accent) during moments of high dudgeon with other unnamed affiliates of his during that spat
apologies for same etc
but at same time there was a lot of good 2011 energy in the room for a few days there
― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Friday, 19 July 2019 13:59 (four years ago) link
to soref: "the world" is not the world.
― Mordy
i think you'll find that the world became the world in 1974
― Un Poco Loco Moco (rushomancy), Friday, 19 July 2019 14:42 (four years ago) link
I was very disappointed to learn that there were Jewish slave-owners in South Carolina
― change display name (Jordan)
there's also the whole weird thing about Judah P. Benjamin having a reputation for being "the brains of the Confederacy".
― Un Poco Loco Moco (rushomancy), Friday, 19 July 2019 14:44 (four years ago) link
i'm not sure how closely this needs to be addressed but jewish slave-owners made up a minuscule percentage of slave-owners in the south and a lot of the rhetoric about jewish slave-owners and jewish participation in the slave trade has been purposefully inflated for antisemitic purposes.
― Mordy, Friday, 19 July 2019 14:52 (four years ago) link
^^^^ yup.
― suzy, Friday, 19 July 2019 15:37 (four years ago) link
I was just at the museum of american jewish history in philadelphia -- great museum -- and they make it perfectly plain that some jews owned slaves -- not in the service of anti-semitism but in the service of its overall message that there's not a single part of american history that isn't in part american jewish history. i see the idea that we're somehow "a people apart" as more helpful to anti-semitism overall.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 19 July 2019 16:12 (four years ago) link
a relative just sent me a campaign guide from a group called "White Awake" and my main reaction was amusement that that name could work just as well for a neo-nazi/white nationalist group as it does for a "woke white liberals" group
― Οὖτις, Friday, 28 February 2020 16:01 (four years ago) link
How about 'White Awoke'?
― romanesque architect (pomenitul), Friday, 28 February 2020 16:03 (four years ago) link
White Awake - the neo-nazi Katy Perry fanclub
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Friday, 28 February 2020 16:18 (four years ago) link
after years of reading and pondering I'm going to have to disparage a complex hierarchy of embedded cultural hegemonies
― mh, Friday, 28 February 2020 17:40 (four years ago) link
Middle class Lockdown Bingo: play here!Banana bread Growing tomatoesSourdough starterDrinks on zoom The Mirror & the Light5pm ginVideoing your street clappingDoing Joe Wicks PEFancying Rishi Sunak Ordering from independent shopsCraftsEducational walksMeditationTea— Flic Everett (@fliceverett) April 3, 2020
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 4 April 2020 22:49 (four years ago) link
Fancying Rishi Sunak
Excuse me?
― Bridge Over Thorley Waters (Tom D.), Saturday, 4 April 2020 22:51 (four years ago) link
Tea is a middle class thing now?
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 4 April 2020 22:52 (four years ago) link
all walks are educational if you are doing it right
― calzino, Saturday, 4 April 2020 22:58 (four years ago) link
I did order a copy of The Mirror & The Light today.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 4 April 2020 23:04 (four years ago) link
What about that thing white ppl do -- I just was in a long conversation with a fellow white person who was doing this, that's why it's on my mind -- when they complain about the town/state/school of their childhood being "so white"?
I can imagine a perfectly reputable version of this practice where said white person would be making the point "all-white or almost all-white spaces are almost always the result of deliberate exclusionary practices, and as an adult, I see that enjoyed access to those spaces that was denied to others and that's not fair" but it usually doesn't come off like this, and it didn't in this case, the tone was much more "life was so bland and tiresome among all those whites," as if the reason you don't want to be in an all-white space is because it lacks the spicy SNAP people of color provide.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 4 February 2021 01:01 (three years ago) link
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/15HiKjAnUuAymWdqejOTcP
― G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 5 April 2021 19:27 (three years ago) link
i love to make fun of wite people
we fucking suck and deserve so much worse
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Monday, 5 April 2021 19:33 (three years ago) link
Weird, I saw that playlist somewhere else recently too. They got the wrong Bon Jovi song at the end though. Shot Through the Heart was an album track on the self-titled debut. Whoever made this list probably meant to put on You Give Love a Bad Name off of Slippery When Wet, which starts off with the lyric "Shot through the heart and you're to blame".
― peace, man, Monday, 5 April 2021 19:36 (three years ago) link
Ok, wait. They did get You Give Love a Bad Name on there too. Who the fuck likes Shot Through the Heart?
― peace, man, Monday, 5 April 2021 19:37 (three years ago) link
Was it in a video game or something?
― peace, man, Monday, 5 April 2021 19:38 (three years ago) link
TIL that Bon Jovi already had a song called “Shot Through The Heart” before they made YGLABN.
― Blick, Bils & Blinky • Let's Skip The Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Monday, 5 April 2021 19:39 (three years ago) link
true story: I spent my entire life until my mid 20s having never heard Sweet Caroline with a crowd. not really sure I’d even heard the entire song before
i’m standing around at a music festival and the house music starts playing it as the tent gets crowded, and it becomes a singalong. i’m mystified!
― mh, Monday, 5 April 2021 19:48 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPkNBo4_rpM
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 5 April 2021 19:52 (three years ago) link
ruuuuuuuuun
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Monday, 5 April 2021 19:54 (three years ago) link
So good!
― You Can't Have the Woogie Without a Little Boogie (Old Lunch), Monday, 5 April 2021 19:56 (three years ago) link
White people are also really scary, don't know if anyone itt mentioned it but they/we are
― You Can't Have the Woogie Without a Little Boogie (Old Lunch), Monday, 5 April 2021 19:59 (three years ago) link
I'm a ghooooost
― imago, Monday, 5 April 2021 20:01 (three years ago) link
I'm willing to bet that there's a non-negligible number of white people who would shoot someone without hesitation for claiming that there are no 'ba ba ba's in the original recording of 'Sweet Caroline'
― You Can't Have the Woogie Without a Little Boogie (Old Lunch), Monday, 5 April 2021 20:06 (three years ago) link
I'm not sure I've ever heard 'Sweet Caroline'.
― pomenitul, Monday, 5 April 2021 20:07 (three years ago) link
Also I'm pretty sure only 2-3 of those songs would make me mildly turnt provided I had like 8-9 pints in me.
― pomenitul, Monday, 5 April 2021 20:11 (three years ago) link
Ok I just looked up 'Sweet Caroline' and I think I've come across the chorus before but it may just be a case of faux déjà vu.
― pomenitul, Monday, 5 April 2021 20:13 (three years ago) link
pom, have u heard 'Heartlight', if so then 'Sweet Caroline' is basically just 'Heartlight' except not about E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial
― You Can't Have the Woogie Without a Little Boogie (Old Lunch), Monday, 5 April 2021 20:14 (three years ago) link
Sampling 'Heartlight' as we speak – I had not heard it, no. In fact I couldn't name a single Neil Diamond song until a few minutes ago.
― pomenitul, Monday, 5 April 2021 20:16 (three years ago) link
Turn on your heartlight(BA BA BAAAA!)Let it shine wherever you go(YOU GO! YOU GO! YOU GO! YOU GO!)
― You Can't Have the Woogie Without a Little Boogie (Old Lunch), Monday, 5 April 2021 20:23 (three years ago) link
list seems to be missing “What’s Up” by 4 Non Blondes
― Blick, Bils & Blinky • Let's Skip The Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Monday, 5 April 2021 20:30 (three years ago) link
Weird, I saw that playlist somewhere else recently too.
― Blick, Bils & Blinky • Let's Skip The Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Monday, 5 April 2021 20:39 (three years ago) link
missing "Torn" "Stay" and "Humpty Dance"
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 5 April 2021 20:41 (three years ago) link
What about the Byrds, "Turnt Turnt Turnt"?
― Halfway there but for you, Monday, 5 April 2021 20:44 (three years ago) link
If being turnt for "Don't You Want Me" is wrong I don't wanna be right
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 5 April 2021 20:51 (three years ago) link
or white
― Halfway there but for you, Monday, 5 April 2021 20:52 (three years ago) link
i get irrationally embarrassed when people do this in public. tbr i think it's a version of liberal brainworms. ultimately whiteness is an ideology, not a person. though of course some fair-skinned people stump for it hard. and idk, liking some songs is actually not a problem? whereas working in finance or being an 'entrepreneur' or enjoying a high standard of living is... actively stumping for the ideology of whiteness. but that stuff is a lot harder to make fun of then 'sweet caroline' or whatever.
― John Cooper of Christian rock band Skillet (map), Monday, 5 April 2021 20:57 (three years ago) link
when parsing out whiteness, richness, maleness, etc., i think it's important to know when one is being made fun of while the others are being affirmed in the background because it makes the whole organism more resilient, if that makes any sense.
― John Cooper of Christian rock band Skillet (map), Monday, 5 April 2021 21:03 (three years ago) link
not everyone is cut out for self-hatred. you have to build toward it
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Monday, 5 April 2021 21:05 (three years ago) link
sweeeet ca ro liiiine hey hey what get laid get fucked
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 5 April 2021 21:48 (three years ago) link
Good wedding playlists itt
― your own personal qanon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 00:18 (three years ago) link
it's a ... nice day for a....
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 03:19 (three years ago) link
map thanks for articulating something I couldn't quite put my finger on
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 03:22 (three years ago) link
I've never understood why people like Sweet Caroline so much, it's such a blah song to me.
There's a steakhouse near our main office that we always have to go to where there's some kind of schtick around the piano player singing that song and then everyone throwing napkins up in the air or something? I don't remember exactly.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 03:30 (three years ago) link
That melody -- "SWEET CAR-O-LINE," it's so ham-fisted. Like actually playing a piano with two big hams.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 03:31 (three years ago) link