Seizing back control: The ILX lol brexit is how we're all gonna die thread.

It's an off-the-cuff remark, it's not even Trump playbook - it's the way the entitled think. From the tweet I saw he also did say things about Macron and Merkel, and this highlights how damaging any dealings in future will be.

Yes that's the real reason that this actually matters - in that the other over-entitled blowhards you're alluding to are not about to start running the country at a moment of acute national crisis.

stepping back a bit, i wish this had been
(a) a bit better written at the time (it's not awful but it is a bit opaque in places) and thus
(b) better attended to politically -- i think there's a lot in it that's more pertinent now than ever and should have been followed up at the time (except i don't really know how?)

https://newsocialist.org.uk/the-stuplime-object-of-ideology/

Johnson is inveigled into the hearts of the alt right/culture warriors echo chamber in a different way to any of the equally vile gormless racist shits in his party who aren't about to be PM. I don't say for sure that makes him worse or more dangerous but it absolutely gives him a bigger smokescreen to operate within for the hopefully 3 months in power he'll get. No fucker would be bigging up Hunt in the same way as BoJo's media buds are prepared to do for him.

Not saying that calling him racist is 'bad' as such. Was trying to broaden out from this blonde white person to his class and the way they think, as a response to some of the posts following gyac's original take.

if this thread were good no one would be referred to by name

the reason to not focus on Johnson is not bc it would hurt him but bc the massive & deeply engrained overemphasis of leadership as a factor in politics has been grossly distorting analysis and thinking abt politics. it's a framing that benefits the right and fucks the left

That New Socialist piece is good

agree w that ogmor, partic in re thinking about what to actually DO

perhaps ironic thing for me to say coming just after that NS piece but still

Yeah ogmor's right but these threads are pretty much all catharsis no praxis

ilx catharsis: yell more on this thread, FP turrican
ilx praxis: start a different thread, FP Fred B

Also emphasis on personalities doesn't so much distort analysis as it is and always has been the whole of analysis at least within the non-specialist media

Idg why saying it’s unacceptable is controversial, maybe if politicians hadn’t been so complicit in racism for their own gain he wouldn’t see it as an atmosphere where he feels comfortable questioning Varadkar’s Irishness. Sorry it’s so deeply unoriginal.

Questioning Varadkar's Irishness and joking that they're all called Murphy over there, aren't they? He's a cunt.

Ok but the Murphy part isn’t about “lol all Irish look the same”, it’s about Leo not having a typically Irish name. Like the Murphy bit by itself is just shite banter.

No10: “The Prime Minister has today approved two new appointments to the Trade Envoy programme. Ian Austin MP has been appointed as the Prime Minister’s Trade Envoy to Israel.”

— Kevin Schofield (@PolhomeEditor) July 18, 2019

No, they don't all look the same but they're all called Paddy or Mick, and I thought they had a sense of humour over there, they're as bad as the Jocks.

This is true, my only excuse is that I’m on this classic account & dying

[????] pic.twitter.com/Rxe0GD7ees

— Wes Tweeting (@westweetin) July 19, 2019

a classic conviction politician

On polling:

A longish thread about trying to explain the differences in party support - primarily Labour - in the polls.

— Anthony Wells (@anthonyjwells) July 19, 2019

Adam Curtis voice-over: ...they were too fixated on achieving that most worthless type of self-centred momentary catharsis - calling boris a cunt on a messageborad 20 ppl read - to realise that they were actually making him more powerful every time they repeated this ..[Burial interlude] If they'd had just calmly posted as they normally do everything would have turned out completely different..

👍

classic hyperbolic curtis move there in claiming that ilx is read by as many as 20 people

Keep ilx Specialist

UK sliding into ‘nationalism’ thanks to far-right threat, Sajid Javid warns
VS.
Sajid Javid praises Nigel Farage in speech on extremism.

Wes Streeting was running communications for Oonagh King's 2010 bid for Mayor of London. Now I think about it he might actually be responsible for 'if you want a raver vote Labour', aka the worst tweet of all time.

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When farage cosies up to boris, they'll be shedding some votes back to those other nice respectable moderates UKIP, surely?

I suspect it'll be Boris doing the cosying up tbh.

“If Boris Johnson is the next Prime Minister and is unable to get a better deal from the European Union by the 31st of October, he should ask the EU for an extension to the UK’s leaving date”

Agree: 33%
Disagree: 36%

via @ComRes, 15 - 16 Julhttps://t.co/w1YhXsBJDI

— Britain Elects (@britainelects) July 19, 2019

Sample Size: 2,038 GB Adults

always reassuring to see they get their polling data from adults!

curtzino is the saving of my Friday!

Great Big Adults, no less

2000 adults Vs 20 readers of ilx

lmao thread

In the last week we have seen:

The former General Secretary of the Labour Party criticising decisions for which he was responsible and being taken entirely seriously.

— Socialist Dad (@shirleymush) July 19, 2019

The Guardian just raised the possibility of Dominic Raab as Home Secretary which tbh terrifies me more than Johnson as PM.

maybe it's for the best these cunts will all be in situ when the revolution comes

Love too watch this thread radicalising people in real time

I can imagine Rabat having an outsize influence as I can’t really see Johnson and Truss doing much work.

You don’t hear much about the Moroccan lobby these days.

Been a while since we had a proper escalation:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jul/19/british-tanker-iran-capture-fears-stena-impero-uk-ship-latest

The source added that Britain had raised its ship security level to 3, the highest category, for British-flagged ships in Iranian waters early on Tuesday.

“Level 3 for shipping would be comparable to ‘critical’ and that is where there is a much-heightened risk ..,” the British source said. “We went to level 3 for Iranian waters at the start of this week.

maybe the IRGC have gone up to level 4, too bad!

It’s less an escalation than reciprocity. idk how, under the current political circumstances, you accidentally sail into Iranian water.

The original seizure of the Iranian tanker by the Royal Marines was legit strange in a way that I’ve not seen fully articulated in the press coverage, tbh.

they are saying it happened in an international waterway, but looking at that map of there isn't much distance between mainland Iran and any of that waterway there.

If any media personnel is reading this, the ship is British flagged, that doesn't mean it's a British ship, it's ran by a Swedish company, operated by a Scottish company.

lol!

Iranian news agencies apparently reporting they have taken a 2nd tanker.

Can't really blame them tbh. Still, this does not bode well.

when I saw Rory trending I thought he might have selflessly offered himself as a peace envoy/hostage to Iran, to go there in full Islamic dress with a bag of plunder from the British Museum. But alas it is only golf related crap!

as a speaker of dari (basically just a dialect of farsi) i think he's the man for the job

Del Piero’s resignation letter is a peach.

A Labour Party so stricken that it can’t keep someone like ⁦@GloriaDePiero⁩ on its benches is in deep, deep trouble. This, from her resignation speech tonight. pic.twitter.com/b1M6ANAhZz

— Tom Newton Dunn (@tnewtondunn) July 19, 2019