Seizing back control: The ILX lol brexit is how we're all gonna die thread.

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abolish the lords and deselect the lot - the adult baby takeover is not gonna happen guys

(1) Looking at the Labour right's horror-clown act and wondering what's the plan ?Isabel Hardman has afaik good contacts in the Labour right, so here Spectator has a good sense of "What are they playing at": # 1 Boris victory is better than Corbyn victory https://t.co/bvFLx9PxWt pic.twitter.com/slIOPjbrSD

— Solomon Hughes (@SolHughesWriter) July 18, 2019

||||||||, Thursday, 18 July 2019 12:11 (six years ago)

Isabel Hardman has good contacts in the Labour Right? You could say that.

Hardman is currently in a relationship with John Woodcock, the Member of Parliament for Barrow and Furness,[16][17] who currently sits as an independent MP, having resigned from the Labour Party amid an investigation into claims of sexual harassment.[18]

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 July 2019 12:15 (six years ago)

the man with three dicks in his name encounters another

mark s, Thursday, 18 July 2019 12:18 (six years ago)

actually if woodcock is two dicks then so is hardman

mark s, Thursday, 18 July 2019 12:20 (six years ago)

It's a great time to join the labour party

ogmor, Thursday, 18 July 2019 12:21 (six years ago)

Noise and gossip. No sign Corbyn is going anywhere before autumn. They have to hope Boris stays till 2022 pre- and post- no deal

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 18 July 2019 12:33 (six years ago)

this thread should have been a book, and while I don’t agree with it all, it is pretty spot on in places particularly re the labour right’s intellectual vacuity and petulance

How should the Labour right respond to Corbyn?

Many are panicking right now, due to the very high probability of an election this year. It's one which Labour could win (but I do not expect them to do so).

A longish (edit: too long) thread, giving my mostly subjective opinions.

— DPWFreeborn (@DPWF0) July 17, 2019

||||||||, Thursday, 18 July 2019 12:36 (six years ago)

anti Roguing is back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (wolf Howl)

mark s, Thursday, 18 July 2019 12:52 (six years ago)

DPWFreeborn (@DPWF0) Tweeted:
It is true, Labour under Corbyn's leadership have been more cautious about taking the word from British intelligence at face value. Again, that seems pretty evidently the *right* approach.

It is true, Labour under Corbyn's leadership have been more cautious about taking the word from British intelligence at face value. Again, that seems pretty evidently the *right* approach.

— DPWFreeborn (@DPWF0) July 17, 2019



This is right but goes no further. It’s pretty clear Corbyn, McDonnell and Abbott don’t trust British intelligence because of their experience with being surveilled as part of leftist campaigns in their younger days - it’s why they came out in support of the SpyCops campaign where a different leadership wouldn’t have - and they cite A Very British Coup in their thinking. That’s based on the plots against Harold Wilson ofc.

gyac, Thursday, 18 July 2019 13:01 (six years ago)

It’s one of the things that makes their pro-cop stance both incoherent and disappointing.

gyac, Thursday, 18 July 2019 13:01 (six years ago)

It is absolutely reasonable to criticise Labour on that basis. It has countless weaknesses and problems and mistakes. But *that* is the basis on which you should criticize Labour.

Not the demonic bugbear you have conjured from your nightmares.

— DPWFreeborn (@DPWF0) July 17, 2019

I think also this worked for Corbyn in campaigning last time - he’d been relentlessly demonised by press and the Tories as a swivel-eyed zealot whereas the reality was this:

https://youtu.be/KllymYee9AI (6.18, where are all the short interview clips?!)

gyac, Thursday, 18 July 2019 13:07 (six years ago)

Toynbee is backbiting into Corbyn again (but being nice to McD). erm.. sk-woooo--o--oeee ..arr..(dying pigeon death rasp)

calzino, Thursday, 18 July 2019 13:08 (six years ago)

Is that a cue to link the greatest Early Day Motion ever I see?
https://edm.parliament.uk/early-day-motion/24837

I also believe that Corbyn makes an excellent pigeon noise here: https://youtu.be/PMAqaavPcz8 (3.49, tw: Piers Morgan)

gyac, Thursday, 18 July 2019 13:16 (six years ago)

I hope John McT is making note of the rock-solid evidence I just threw out there proving that Corbyn is working for his pigeon masters. Get him, John!

gyac, Thursday, 18 July 2019 13:17 (six years ago)

In actual news

Commons carries a crucial amendment to stop prorogation of Parliament by new PM against its wishes for the purpose of forcing through no-deal Brexit. 315/274. Majority of 41 https://t.co/Yjih7sX2Op

— Labour Whips (@labourwhips) July 18, 2019



Looks like around 17 Tory MPs voted to prevent prorogation against wishes of Parliament.

— Labour Whips (@labourwhips) July 18, 2019



Tories who did not vote on the prorogation amendment. Some may have been slipped/paired pic.twitter.com/nQ6G2lSIdi

— Emilio Casalicchio (@e_casalicchio) July 18, 2019

gyac, Thursday, 18 July 2019 13:30 (six years ago)

keeping pigeons was banned in occupied France, nazis understood that pigeons were actually weapons of mass destruction!

calzino, Thursday, 18 July 2019 13:35 (six years ago)

My hot take is that there was never any intention of proroguing Parliament but they just had to make it sound like they would to gain Tory votes. Johnson is probably slightly relieved if anything.

Matt DC, Thursday, 18 July 2019 13:42 (six years ago)

Lovely article about wartime pigeons here: https://www.lrb.co.uk/v41/n07/jon-day/operation-columba

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 18 July 2019 13:43 (six years ago)

Rory Stewart mysteriously absent on high quality photo day.

nashwan, Thursday, 18 July 2019 13:44 (six years ago)

some fascinating stories in the op Columba piece, AF. I've reached my LRB free article limit, but thankfully you can still listen to the full audio version of it if you have.

calzino, Thursday, 18 July 2019 14:09 (six years ago)

interestingly Hawking Divisions are making a comeback as drone hunters these days.

calzino, Thursday, 18 July 2019 14:11 (six years ago)

I'd love to have my own personal hawking division: seize that fule's scalp over yonder, Lightning!

calzino, Thursday, 18 July 2019 14:24 (six years ago)

Plankton for morons:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/18/boris-johnson-claims-about-kippers-fishy-brussels-says

pomenitul, Thursday, 18 July 2019 14:25 (six years ago)

boris talking to his base freebasing again.

calzino, Thursday, 18 July 2019 14:30 (six years ago)

bottom feeders the lot of 'em

nashwan, Thursday, 18 July 2019 14:58 (six years ago)

sometimes I think if Shaun Ryder had an RP accent and even without couching his language with much florid verbosity to try make himself sound cleverer than he is, he would still be a more insightful leader of the Conservative party than Boris is ever going to be. This is where I concur with mark s, boris has reached a bad level of wet-brain degeneracy or something, he's just not quite all there.

calzino, Thursday, 18 July 2019 14:59 (six years ago)

My friend who I may have mentioned before as witness to BJ stalking a woman she used to know said she was alarmed by how empty/parts missing emotionally he seemed to be, and that was describing the BJ of 10-15 years ago.

suzy, Thursday, 18 July 2019 15:23 (six years ago)

Come on people can grow as they get older!

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 18 July 2019 15:41 (six years ago)

stephen bush and diane abbott are bad now:

Quite sad that #bbctw ends tonight. V good piece on it by @HackneyAbbott here: https://t.co/CnwCG9jqmS

— Stephen Bush (@stephenkb) July 18, 2019

mark s, Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:22 (six years ago)

(i haven't read the piece)

mark s, Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:22 (six years ago)

"never surpassed"

that's like saying not many horses ever got past Quixall Crossett.

(not read the piece either because I prefer making flip comments about things I'm never going to read!)

calzino, Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:26 (six years ago)

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/boris-johnson-s-biographer-i-know-too-well-the-fire-and-fury-lurking-behind-that-smile-03gqmxt5v

"Even as a child his temper was legendary within the Johnson family. He once came to blows with his sister Rachel after a row over the identity of the lead singer of the Clash."

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 18 July 2019 22:19 (six years ago)

To be fair, Mick Jones did his fair share of singing.

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 July 2019 22:25 (six years ago)

has fists of (big audio) dynamite does this lad.

calzino, Friday, 19 July 2019 00:03 (six years ago)

Imagine being so vile that the only thing you can think of to insult Leo is him being half Indian

Boris Johnson on Varadkar: ‘Why isn’t he called Murphy like all the rest of them’ https://t.co/XLFXGg4y0d via @IrishTimesOpEd

— Irish Times Opinion (@IrishTimesOpEd) July 18, 2019

gyac, Friday, 19 July 2019 05:32 (six years ago)

You're called Johnson you sassanach cunt

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Friday, 19 July 2019 05:42 (six years ago)

Hope the circa 20% of voters who are Asian in his constituency are paying attention.

gyac, Friday, 19 July 2019 06:21 (six years ago)

the state of the lesser NS
https://mainlymacro.blogspot.com/2019/07/reaction-to-there-is-only-one.html?m=1

||||||||, Friday, 19 July 2019 09:57 (six years ago)

Imagine being so vile that the only thing you can think of to insult Leo is him being half Indian

Most pieces of shit aren't half as foul as Boris.

pomenitul, Friday, 19 July 2019 10:03 (six years ago)

most pieces of shit don't have the schooling, the reasoning or the academic intelligence to construct a cathedral of vileness comparable to those of men like johnson

imago, Friday, 19 July 2019 10:18 (six years ago)

he is sophistry and selfishness personified

imago, Friday, 19 July 2019 10:20 (six years ago)

Nothing screams erudition quite like using 'Murphy' as a stand-in for all Irish people.

pomenitul, Friday, 19 July 2019 10:23 (six years ago)

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/17/books/boris-johnson-72-virgins.html

pomenitul, Friday, 19 July 2019 10:25 (six years ago)

as a 2nd gen irish he's radicalising me, I'm ready to enlist for the RA sleeper squad again!

calzino, Friday, 19 July 2019 10:27 (six years ago)

Yeah I see no reason to credit him with intelligence or reasoning, however you modify those words.

jou're much too jung, girl (Noodle Vague), Friday, 19 July 2019 10:28 (six years ago)

if there ever was anything like that there, it's gone now.. that's plain to see.

calzino, Friday, 19 July 2019 10:30 (six years ago)

Tbf we can't and shouldn't rule out the possibility that he was slyly alluding to Sam Beckett's second novel, thus demonstrating his nonpareil knowledge of the Irish avant-garde.

pomenitul, Friday, 19 July 2019 10:33 (six years ago)

just started reading dante and the lobster yesterday, weirdly!

imago, Friday, 19 July 2019 10:43 (six years ago)

there's a nice new little edition of it for like a fiver in foyle's. i couldn't help getting it.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 19 July 2019 10:46 (six years ago)

Nice. I'll take its 'epiphany' over most of Joyce's.

pomenitul, Friday, 19 July 2019 10:47 (six years ago)


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