2020 Democratic presidential primary

how dare a free press be OFFENSIVE

get offensive, stay offended. it usta be called adulthood.

In the old days the New Republic would have had to recall all the magazines and rip the offending pages out of each copy

did TNR drop your article too, morbs

here's the thing: "devastating" takedowns of political touchstones and cultural sacred cows, whether as essays or reviews, still get published all the time...and the writers get paid less than Vidal did.

i definitely think that saying that mayor pete would be a bad president because he'd be too busy daydreaming about dick is a cool thing to write

think about it, he can get any dick he wants

here's an unedited pull-quote (no pun intended); gore vidal this ain't

Every move is simultaneously cynical and morally oblivious. They’re the steps one takes not to learn about the world but to become a marketable political candidate (hmmm, what’s a good counter to the whole sleeps-with-men thing? I know: military service!) (side benefit: you’re surrounded by hot guys!)

jim otm, Peck's dimestore psychoanalysis was the main reason that piece was indefensible

anyway Peck will forever be the aggro simpleton who thought "Jessa Crisp-Tits" was a devastating insult

Now that'we're on the subject, I couldn't stand Jeremy Peters' Sunday NYT piece about Buttigieg, who presents himself as a replicant in thrall to his ambitions: a guy who would focus group his choice for a husband.

I do have to admit that even by the standards of this hacky screenplay we call reality in 2019, his name being Chasten is a bit on the nose.

His husband's name reflects his chastened attitude toward his sexuality don't you see

the “historic” home, the “tasteful” decor (no more than one nude photograph of a muscular torso per room; statuary only if they’re fair copies of Greek or Roman originals), the two- or four- or six-pack depending on how often you can get to the gym and how much you hate yourself, the theatre (always spelled with an -re) subscription, the opera subscription, the ballet subscription, the book club, the AKC-certified toy dog with at least one charming neurosis and/or dietary tic, the winter vacation to someplace “tropical,” the summer vacation to someplace “cultural,” the specialty kitchen appliances—you just have to get a sous vide machine, it changed our life! Sorry, boys, that’s not a life, it’s something you buy from a catalog.

not sure i'd ascribe divinity, but otfm

Not at all.

Maybe I'm just mad because I don't have my pug yet to complete the starter kit.

No butt pug?

do i understand this correctly: for a long time homosexuality was stigmatized in our society (& in some parts still is). the strategy to normalize it was to argue that it was normal (and lots of 'nature' / born this way arguments were made to make that case), but that in turn created a space for essentially "heteronormative" (homonormative?) homosexuality and ppl who believe it should be associated w/ radical politics don't like that?

that Perrin/Morbs defense of the Peck piece for TNR was skewered reasonably well by a few of the comments on the corresponding Jezebel article: it's not that the piece is offensive, it's that Peck's cultural view is firmly rooted in a different time period

it's not that it's outright wrong, it's that it's dropped on to the page from somewhere in the early 1990s and a lot of the points don't land because they don't map to the world of 2019

Biden warns the @AARP audience that under Medicare for All: "Medicare as you know it goes away. It's gone."

Adds: "Dropping 300 million people on a new plan is a little risky, I think."

— Alice Miranda Ollstein (@AliceOllstein) July 15, 2019

the peck thing is not a free speech issue, for reasons I hope anyone who frequents this board understands

separately, rich is a good writer but can be incredibly thick at times, and this is a good example

xps love when the democratic frontrunner takes conservative talking points on the campaign trail to scare the olds

Xpost yes under the limited and legalistic view of free speech people on this board usually apply it was not a free speech issue but it sure is shitty to drop a piece for no real reason and allow it to be characterized as homophobic in the media

it sure is shitty to drop a piece for no real reason and allow it to be characterized as homophobic in the media

True. What TNR should have done was issue a statement reading, "We can't believe we published this shit; we apologize to everyone who read it, and will never allow a writer as shitty as Dale Peck to waste our readers' time like this again."

"P.S. It's not homophobic, so don't call it that. Call it what it is — shitty writing by an idiot."

Clever

neither I nor Perrin 'defended' the Peck piece (esp as I didn't nor will I read it)

back to Mordy's house w/ all of you, and fuck -normativity (which can be boiled down to "shopping")

enjoyed reading that article, but it definitely felt to me like it offered more insight into Dale Peck himself than Pete Buttigieg

It offered more insight into Gar than Pete Buttigieg.

DGAF bernie is his best mode imo

Here’s bernie asking him for the full quote pic.twitter.com/f9WGAhVqHC

— Progressive Middle-Eastern (@mahmoudkenny98) July 16, 2019

str8 fire

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The picture of Dorian Gay.

Another interesting result from the CNN/UNH poll: The shift among which candidates voters would NEVER vote for. Since February, the percentage of Democrats who would not support Warren fell by nearly half; the number who would not support Biden more than quadrupled. pic.twitter.com/3nEfEPoYG7

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) July 18, 2019

Unsupportable Joe

it's almost like the more he talks the less people like him

never say never, apparently

(re: warren)

apparently the lineups for the next pair of debates (on the 30th and 31st) will be drawn tonight. CNN is running it and has decided to draw lots in three tiers, so each debate will have:

* two of Harris, Warren, Biden and Sanders
* three of Booker, Castro, Pete, Klobuchar, Yang and Beto
* five of the others

seems better than the last ones!

I tried to vote for Warren twice and the poll wouldn't let me :(

i want bernie vs biden

xp I can’t believe that I’m witnessing a real attempt at voter fraud, and it’s in an ILX thread!

CNN right now is a classic CNN exercise in padding and faux-event as they try to make drawing names out of two boxes into a major unfolding story

Warreniks can't resist their ol' Republican ways

Even when you try to be funny it comes off like vinegar on lemons

Seemed liked a total non sequitur to me.

Morbs do you smell toast

I spend far too much time pondering the psychological motivation behind the Morbsian shitpost.

don't aim that high

Tom I think you caught me at The Improv

want to hear more morbs standup stories