Seizing back control: The ILX lol brexit is how we're all gonna die thread.

the guy who really puts the anus into Coriolanus

at least we'll have "hilarious" zingers like this to cheer us up.

starring Boris Johnson as Peter O’Hanrahan’rahan

y'all are crazy, Marina is the best

well at least back in the days when she was attacking right-wing Labour from the left you might not have noticed how much her own politics suck shit.

only blue ticks like baroness hyde

If the only conclusion she can draw from the irresistible rise of boris is that the problem is that he is a fake alpha male, then she is obviously deeply invested in the good ol' patriarchy.

Not to mention the class system that spawned him as well.

Idk if anyone has posted it but the Andrew Neil interview with Johnson where he’s talking about Article 5B and GATT, Neil asks him how he’d deal with the implications of 5C, Johnson admits he has no idea what it is and starts blustering about “negativity “ should be on a loop for the next six months.

Dunno if this is unwarranted pessimism on my part or what, but I can well imagine the general reaction being "yeah, I don't know either, go Boris!".

Not unwarranted.

So what if Boris doesn't know what a Gatt 5B is? The people who want out dgaf what one of those is and think it should be put in a bin. The whole point is that tedious paperwork is holding us back, and reading or knowing what it is for nerds and gets in the way of the important business of setting it on fire

I’ve said it today at the Durham Miners Gala so I’ll repeat it here. Attacking a woman going through chemotherapy - @tom_watson you are a fucking disgrace. @JennieGenSec

— Len McCluskey (@LenMcCluskey) July 13, 2019

I don't rate Unite (a friend of mine once joined them and they were useless when he needed their help) and don't like fucking Len McCluskey either. It was funny seeing the dickhead posting that this tweet was his proudest moment as a card carrying unite/labour member!

Enjoy the big claps at Durham @LenMcCluskey Watson is a disgrace no doubt, but you've joined him politically in defending the neoliberal status quo against democracy, and any prospect of a real socialist Labour project.

— Eddie Dempsey (@EddieDempsey) July 13, 2019

a counterpoint.

Eddie Dempsey is a blue labour troll, critical support for big Len

I know but still h8 Len!

never had union representation in my entire life and have not really seen any *striking* examples of union power since I was a kid. it sort of reminds me of charities, corrupt, toothless organisations that look after themselves.

I live about 100m from Unite HQ.

My partner went to an employment tribunal where she effectively got sacked for complaining that men were getting paid more than women for doing the same job - it working in the bookies so no unions! I've seen colleagues, friends and been fucked over myself for retainers owed to us by one shitty electrical contractor, and the friend that joined Unite came off the worst - because they just kept laying him off afterwards. It probably isn't a balanced take - but from bitter personal experience I just have a kind of fuck Unite reflex! I'm not saying I'm completely correct.

Eh it’s ok, not saying unions are universally great or anything, I don’t really care for Len myself but if I’m having to choose sides I take him over TW every time!

I just had a horrible thought: is Tw’s Future Britain Group an In the Loop reference?

I didnt say I was right, but sometimes life experience shapes how you feel about things, and isn't always rational.

Yeah I get you, you’re totally entitled to your view, not trying to Streeting you, promise!

Guys... I think I've hit the motherlode... pic.twitter.com/I8iGT0JLy6

— Greggs Truther (@invisibleste) July 13, 2019

Not been here for a week so catching up and its just mind-boggling that anyone (Matt in this case) thinks that Watson has "clearly something of substance that he is desperate to get out of the open" re: Labour's issues around Anti-semitism. I mean, he would surely have bought it out in the open by now if he had it?

Not been here for a week so catching up and its just mind-boggling that anyone (Matt in this case) thinks that Watson has "clearly something of substance that he is desperate to get out of the open" re: Labour's issues around Anti-semitism. I mean, he would surely have bought it out in the open by now if he had it?

Didn't really get that one either. Though I could see the argument why he wouldn't yet have brought it into the open, as it makes more sense to continue the drip feed rather than releasing anything, but then no one has ever accused him of being exactly bright so who knows

idk, I think the man's ego and sense of self-importance would surely have him at the Observer offices working all week to prepare the hit piece.

I don't think he is that bright but he is an operator and has manoeuvered himself into a position to cause a fuck load of damage.

Has Watson replied to Formby's letter?

perhaps Watson's little run in with Murdoch in the past made him feel like he was some kind of heroic gritty conviction pol and this has stuck with him. He seems a bit puddled at the best of times, he reminds me of someone at school whose head used to turn puce when he was angry, but he'd never say anything.

That moment when McD threw Mao's little red book at Gideon at pmq, the look on Watson's face was fucking priceless.

Has Watson replied to Formby's letter?

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This seems highly unlikely. He might reference it in a "I won't rest until the scourge of anti-semitism is purged from our midst" kind of way but anything more than that doesn't seem plausible

one of the most hideous things to come out this Kim Darroch incident (well i didn't know) is that Oakeshott and Farage were an item. Stomach truly turned.

if it comes out in the investigation that he or his party were involved in the leak - that could do some damage.

Oh .. it's Tice she's in a relationship with, I read "Brexit Party chief" as Farage.

“Richard had nothing to do with the cables. He has never seen them, never handled them and was not involved in acquiring them.

“Tempting though it is to put two and two together to make 55, there is no link between him and the ambassador story.”

she would say that. She's filed a lawsuit against the Graun for their coverage on this as well - getting tasty is this!

It’s not Farage, it’s Richard Tice. *vom face emoji*

yeah that just dawned on me, still forgoing breakfast tho!

Ah, I see that’s been clarified - I started writing and broke off to answer my friend’s texts about rain delays to our whippet walk and brunch.

can only dream of of seeing Oakeshott getting banged up for breaching the official secrets act. But not sure it would greatly damage the Brexit party? idk and if it did then the tories would probably have more to gain than Labour from it.

Can someone who has not signed the OSA get convicted for violating it? Since Oakeshott’s already got form for betraying sources who then go to prison....

The "eurosceptic Philby" in Whitehall will be bricking it.

You don’t have to have signed the OSA to be bound by it & section 5 is the relevant one here I think.

Trevor Phillips - former head of the EHRC - is telling the EHRC not to investigate Islamophobia in the Conservative Party, despite the huge scale of the problem already well catalogued.

This does not bode well for trust in the process.https://t.co/hELNHTI8Ym https://t.co/dLIhTQYZUB

— Miqdaad Versi (@miqdaad) July 13, 2019

I think baroness Warsi might have some questions for Trevor Phillips.

without getting into whataboutery territory it is probably fair to say there won't be a panorama investigation into this scandal.

Philips spends half the column comparing Labour the the BNP. It’s shameful.

Honestly between that and Panorama, I would be surprised if they weren’t putting together a defence on how it was impossible for them to have been given a fair hearing.

You’d have to hope Phillips’ peculiarities aren’t reflected by the organisation as a whole and that they’re under better management now. He found his natural home at the Daily Mail.

I always knew all of these staunch blairites were positively unreconstructed tories.. but fucking hell that's a lot of tory right there!

idk how many senior Tories would take to the pages of the Mail to say

Against this background, Macpherson decided to expand his brief to treat police racism as simply an example of bigotry that permeated the whole of British society. It was a grave mistake. For all his distinction as a lawyer, I believe the judge had limited experience in race relations.

First, he came up with a definition of ‘institutional racism’ that managed to be both unintelligible and wrong.

Thus began a 20-year-long goose chase in search of racial bigotry often where none exists; a trend that has been extended to other aspects of identity politics, including, spectacularly, putting feminists in the dock for questioning the right of anyone in possession of a working penis to identify as a woman.

Second, Macpherson incorrectly attributed almost all racial disadvantage to conscious white discrimination. He ignored the responsibilities of minority communities themselves; most knife crime, for example, is committed by young black men against other young black men.

Following what I said about my very critical support for Len on this matter:

If the biggest cheer at your biggest event is one of your leader's closest allies swearing at your deputy leader for addressing racism in your party, then you're probably screwed. https://t.co/T7R517SMCg

— Dorian Lynskey (@Dorianlynskey) July 13, 2019

the erstwhile ilxer is always looking for that sweet spot between JH and Dunty!

still don't like big Len, but my rambling bollox after a few cans posting on him yesterday was pretty shit and didn't really nail anything!

xp isn’t that their stupid podcast