2020 Democratic presidential primary

It will be interesting to see if the next debate shakes things up again. I kind of doubt Biden will get caught flat-footed with the segregationist stuff again, but anything could happen.

Too bad the next debate is another 2-night deal with a bunch of people who are trying to get hired as msnbc and cnn commentators

This is pretty amazing but I'm also half worried this will bite her in the ass

BREAKING: Our members in New Hampshire just asked @ewarren if she would commit to pressuring the Israel to stop their 52 year military Occupation over the Palestinian people.

She said YES. pic.twitter.com/8GLhNMQ2gf

— IfNotNow🔥 (@IfNotNowOrg) July 8, 2019

"Too bad the next debate is another 2-night deal with a bunch of people who are trying to get hired as msnbc and cnn commentators"

I just read there are only 7 candidates at the moment who will qualify. so people better get their fundraising up.

Well that would be a pretty significant statement if it wasn't obvious from the clip that she isn't listening to a word they are saying and also if her record wasn't largely made up of AIPAC approved positions. good for the activists for getting publicity, i imagine Warren will have some campaign surrogates quietly issue a correction friday after news hours.

Gravel made it to 65K, and his crew are streaming now:

https://www.pscp.tv/MikeGravel

They had great chuckles that Hickenlooper only had 14K donors

https://outline.com/7hYHUG

The Buttigieg column that the New Republic quickly pulled

complete embarrassment

Why did the outline republish it?

that's not web publication The Outline but a web-based reader app called "Outline" which cached the article

Nevermind I’m an idiot who can’t read domain names

I saw the article before it was pulled, absolutely shocking someone let that go through editing and be published

that link isn't working -- what's the gist?

he's a bad gay

Gay writer says Mayor Pete is wrong kind of gay

representative excerpt:

Mary Pete and I are just not the same kind of gay. (For those of you wondering about “Mary Pete”: a couple of months ago I asked Facebook what the gay equivalent of Uncle Tom was, and this was the answer at which we collectively arrived.)

In May 2011, Peck's criticism of Jewish-American literature in which he claimed "[I]f I have to read another book about the Holocaust, I’ll kill a Jew myself" prompted a public outcry. His editors later removed the statement from his article.[8]

He's also the critic Stanley Crouch punched in the face

tnr what are you doin

lol how many critics has crouch punched? i can think of three w/o strain

I like how right in the middle of Don saying the most outright publicly racist things he's ever said, Beto pops in to the headlines to just real quick inform everyone that he's descended from slave owners.

EVERYONE: Um, thank for you sharing that, Beto.

BETO: De nada.

EVERYONE: Alright, well, anyway, back to the president being a white supremacist...

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/07/new-republic-drops-out-climate-forum-offensive-pete-buttigieg.html

If you want to accept gay people, and not just because it makes you feel better about yourself, you have to accept that they may do things that you find grotesque but that make them no less acceptable and no less human. With Peck, TNR exposed the wider culture to a facet of gay culture with particularly rough edges and when people found it unsightly, they did their best to make it unseen. That the removal of writing that was not found to be plagiarized or factually inaccurate didn’t cause a tenth of the controversy as Peck’s opinion was telling in itself. We only like well-behaved gay men in these refined online quarters, apparently. The rest can go to hell.

https://jezebel.com/define-homophobic-1836367531

Rich included two long equivocating paragraphs in the middle that present exactly what's wrong with the piece.

I'm aware that there are things wrong with it.

ftr I read the piece when it was published, agreed with some of it, shook my head at some of it, and forgot about it. I understand TNR's craven reasons for pulling it all too well.

.... disagree p profoundly with rich but whatever

the piece should've gotten the axe the minute an editor read "gay equivalent of uncle tom"

Dale Peck's attack on Mayor Pete conjured memories of my youth, when literary/political assaults were common, no apologies were given, and readers either rolled with it or moved on to something else. Hypersensitivity is now gospel, which in the degraded age of Trump is "ironic." https://t.co/Fn4owShIbP

— Dennis Perrin (@DennisThePerrin) July 13, 2019

I started reading it, remembered that Dale Peck is a shitty writer and that I don't care about Pete Buttigeig anyway, and bailed about 1/4 of the way in.

That typically imbecilic Perrin tweet has me convinced Cintra Wilson will start slithering around again any day now.

I guess Reps. Omar, Pressly, Tlaib, and AOC should have "rolled with it and moved on to something else" in response to Trump's recent tweets then, as opposed to succumbing to "hypersensitivity"

Emily Atkin
‏Verified account @emorwee

I’ve been trying for hours to write a fancy adult-person statement responding to the fact that my presidential climate forum got cancelled because of TNR’s wildly offensive mayor Pete piece. And I’m just can’t do it. I’m still so devastated.
6:28 AM - 15 Jul 2019

It's one thing to correctly attack TNR for cowardice, another to allude to the Golden Age of Gore Vidal and Wilfrid Sheed and Elizabeth Hardwick as if the mere fact that it's not nice to Buttigieg qualifies it as a worthy successor.

otm. the "mary pete" piece was simply poorly written and conceived; yoking it to anti-pc speaking-truth-to-power talking points doesn't make it any less lame

incredibly rich to describe that piece as a "literary/political assault". "hypersensitivity is now gospel" is some "i wrote something dumb and experienced consequences, whatever happened to free speech"

DP seems to be talking about the press, u see xxxxp

fuck me for being on this fucking jizzboard

BLOOOOOOOW MEEEEEEEEEEE

whats amazing is how actually motherfucking stupid so many of you are

morbs, throwing a tantrum like this definitely proves you're smart and right

how dare a free press be OFFENSIVE

get offensive, stay offended. it usta be called adulthood.

In the old days the New Republic would have had to recall all the magazines and rip the offending pages out of each copy

did TNR drop your article too, morbs

here's the thing: "devastating" takedowns of political touchstones and cultural sacred cows, whether as essays or reviews, still get published all the time...and the writers get paid less than Vidal did.

i definitely think that saying that mayor pete would be a bad president because he'd be too busy daydreaming about dick is a cool thing to write

think about it, he can get any dick he wants

here's an unedited pull-quote (no pun intended); gore vidal this ain't

Every move is simultaneously cynical and morally oblivious. They’re the steps one takes not to learn about the world but to become a marketable political candidate (hmmm, what’s a good counter to the whole sleeps-with-men thing? I know: military service!) (side benefit: you’re surrounded by hot guys!)

jim otm, Peck's dimestore psychoanalysis was the main reason that piece was indefensible

anyway Peck will forever be the aggro simpleton who thought "Jessa Crisp-Tits" was a devastating insult

Now that'we're on the subject, I couldn't stand Jeremy Peters' Sunday NYT piece about Buttigieg, who presents himself as a replicant in thrall to his ambitions: a guy who would focus group his choice for a husband.