Seizing back control: The ILX lol brexit is how we're all gonna die thread.

Actually, that rings a bell now. What about the poll tax?

From Wiki, but properly sourced:

Davis began work as an economist at the Institute for Fiscal Studies, and while there he was briefly seconded to help officials work on early development of the Community Charge system of local government taxation (better known as the Poll Tax.

lot of people itt now regretting their erstwhile working lunch fandom

"Are there any vaguely credible theories out there as to who might leaked the Darroch memo?"

not credible at all but..

jeremy blunt, so he get's the opportunity to tether his opponent to trump and make trump (lol) look bad at the same time and then act the hardman against the orange fool by condemning his predictably idiotic response. This is how trump is often useful to abysmal, vaguely liberal, centre-right to absolute melt UK polls of all parties - they can play at being big game hunters by dissing him.

it would only make sense if it was a bigger sample than deranged Con members and UKIP entryists he needed to appeal to. But sometimes people will try any shit when they clearly know they are already beaten in a contest.

WE DID IT !!!!!

The House of Commons has voted by a massive majority to introduce same-sex marriage in Northern Ireland if the Stormont Executive isn’t restored by 21st October.

I know the DUP will find some way to get out of this without conceding on the Irish Language Act, but, <3

(checks digiminster, notes that only DUP and Tories voted against)
(checks again, yup, Lady Hermon voted for)

"Are there any vaguely credible theories out there as to who might leaked the Darroch memo?"

not credible at all but..

ABC had someone on saying this is some score setting by people who see the foreign service as anti-Brexit and trying to sabotage the glorious leap into neo-feudalism.

Conjecture is that this is either the start of a purge of the foreign service (because surely everyone in the foreign service has something they’ve written in a cable they’d rather not be published); or this is a warning shot to get in line with the DePfeffel doctrine or lose your pension.

The Grieve amendment that was passed:

‘(1A) The Secretary of State shall make a further report under subsection 1 on or before 9 October 2019 at least every fourteen calendar days thereafter until either an Executive is formed or until 18 December 2019, whichever is the sooner.’—(Mr Grieve.)

https://t.co/8LVwS8JJAQ
It appears that on Grieve's amendment which passed by 1 vote Jo Churchill acting as a proxy for Chloe Smith didn't cast her own vote which would have overturned the result.

— Darren Atkinson (@LordSlate) July 9, 2019

I enjoyed the posts about Amy Lamé !

I like this news about NI. I feel that they will now restart the NI executive for a day just to stop it, or something.

I can see Amy Lame and Tom Watson getting on like a house on fire

i like when a chuktig micro-asteroid break-up splinter announces a new stable phrase it always screams the words "together" and "shared" and "bound", like we don't know what's gnna happen in 3 weeks time lol

(the word "bound" is probably a bit of a tell, like "tied up but in a good way")

don't kink-shame the chuktig, mark

Mark

national govt to form under gina gershon as corky

i'm gonna need a diagram to keep myself right on this

Parliament has a new group, the Independents. These are not to be be confused the independent MPs, the ones sit without party affiliation (normally because they have resigned from or been suspended by the party they were representing when elected). There are currently five Independents.

Just to make things complicated, four of them - Heidi Allen, Luciana Berger, Gavin Shuker and Angela Smith - used to be members of what started life as the Independent Group before it turned into Change UK. Change UK then split when six of its 11 MPs became independents.

Now four of those six are Independents. The other two were Chuka Umunna, who has joined the Lib Dems, and Sarah Wollaston, who is still an independent.

The fifth Independent is John Woodcock, who used to be Labour MP before resigning in protest against Jeremy Corbyn’s handling of antisemitism (although he was also suspended at the time over a harassment allegation that he strongly denied).

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D_E1GFbXUAQrvi_.png

We’re sorry. We know that politicians can be infuriating. That sometimes it looks like all we care about is our own careers, and protecting the interests of our parties.

For some of us, that journey led us to leave our parties, and establish The Independent Group. We rushed ahead with establishing a political party, on our own. We weren’t ready - and the truth is, we messed it up.

We apologise, especially to everyone who supported us, stood for us, campaigned for us, and who told us that we had given them hope.

always good to come out of the gate strong with abject apologies for how badly you fucked up the last time

"it won't happen again"

things the independents website has: a 'values' section
things the indepdendents website does not have: a 'policies' section

follow the bouncing dead cat

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/OddballAcidicBangeltiger-max-1mb.gif

i love the "strongly" modifier on "strongly denied", totally adds credibility

lady kim darroch has resigned as British ambassador to the US.

Millions of tonnes of munitions & chemical weapons were dumped by the MoD in the sea off the UK coast up until the 1990s...

The MoD now admits it's not even routinely monitoring these "sea dump" sites.

🚨 N.B. Belgian sea dump sites started leaking WWI mustard gas in May... 😬 pic.twitter.com/fK8S0VTiWk

— Lucy Fisher (@LOS_Fisher) July 10, 2019

i thought that haddock tasted a bit dodgy last week.

it explains why the smoked stuff is that luminous yellow, anyway

Not to mention the curry covered seagull.

Nm that, it explains why seagulls are so huge and aggressive.

let them take it, it's their turn they deserve it better than we do

the uk government had better start pouring money into a jaeger programme so we have a proper line of defence when a mutant mackerel, grown to terrifying kaiju scale by these waste dumps, tries to destroy the forth rail bridge

fuck i should have said cod so i could have posited the existence of codzilla FUCK

;_;

Weapons of Bass Destruction

PMQs is an absolute shouty bearpit today but ¡Jez en fuego!

good clear simple thread IMO by solomon hughes on calling-yr-manager syndrome as a general political manifestation (i agree with his reservation abt it downthread, that he somewhat underplays the voltaire-quote of it -- but i also agree with his argument that the two modes are connected)

(1) Towards a new dictionary of Political Phrases : "Call the Manager" (tbh I think this could have been stronger) https://t.co/2xloz5PmEy pic.twitter.com/4F5Ibt11j3

— Solomon Hughes (@SolHughesWriter) July 10, 2019

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-1cjs1UwAMFa2H.jpg

(in a way this is my response to FH's request some time back to expand on my "boris is a symptom not the next worst phase" argument -- or at least, since the connection is probably still opaque to all readers, it will form the basis of my response if and when i ever get round to it)

(which won't be today as i am still working on that job application lol)

ps the morning star is often bad but SH is usual vg

That thread is hilarious and well observed.

yeah that's good stuff

Big Top Politics more like

that voltaire jpeg is a corker

the new militant moderates sometimes have a tendency to focus on - real or imagined - "rules", and demand they be enforced from above

because "middle of the road" are just conservative small c fucks who don't like confrontation so much

good thread tho

Tory MPs now queuing up to criticise their future leader and PM. Basically, you don't mess with Britain's diplomatic service.

I’d like to see Boris wiggle his way out of this jam.

THAT BORIS WIGGLE IN FULL

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100,000 senile racist cunts will still vote for him

lol, otm

Ah well, nevertheless

I like the way he can be grossly incompetent, racist and untrustworthy in every sense of the word, but as soon as you don't back one of your own diplomats.. that's it - you ain't fit for office!

like i said yesterday, getting a rise out of these entitled shitheels is one of Trump's more enjoyable tantrums

god bless the special relationship

Just caught up on this morning - what the fuck is the pink curly bracket in that logo about?

going back to ed's post from last night (re credible theories who leaked the darroch emails):

ABC had someone on saying this is some score setting by people who see the foreign service as anti-Brexit and trying to sabotage the glorious leap into neo-feudalism.

Conjecture is that this is either the start of a purge of the foreign service (because surely everyone in the foreign service has something they’ve written in a cable they’d rather not be published); or this is a warning shot to get in line with the DePfeffel doctrine or lose your pension.

― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, July 9, 2019 11:21 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

as ed has gone with a very stevolende formulation, i'm not sure who is conjecturing what by who (yes the second suggestion is bojo but who's the first)? i also read a tweet (by "anti brexit alien") saying that it was either done by an ENEMY POWER (the cui bono there makes sense, bcz that's who wants to fuck up yr diplomatic effectiveness) or a GOVERNMENT MOLE, which i'm still enjoying unravelling ("oh noes the govt has planted agents in the foreign office")

anyway darroch himself was retiring in like a week so it can't be about him and whoever the PM is they do actually have uncomplicated power to recall and replace ambassadors. this may or may not make things harder for johnson -- WHO THE FUCK KNOWS -- but it seems like a needlessly random flex