Seizing back control: The ILX lol brexit is how we're all gonna die thread.

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But in all honesty, it's not specifically anti-capitalist? Corruption is a theme all over the world. If you say corrupt bankers have bought all the politicians, then...

Frederik B, Monday, 8 July 2019 21:15 (six years ago)

bankers is only a synonym for jews if yr antisemitic

mark s, Monday, 8 July 2019 21:17 (six years ago)

in the early 20th century the Judeo-Bolshevik myth wasn't a creation of the nazis, it was a collaborative creation of greater European bigotry and including Great Britain and other capitalist nations and it was still prevalent after the holocaust. just saying.

calzino, Monday, 8 July 2019 21:30 (six years ago)

A lot of those tropes were constructed out of actual bullshit to allow the type of exclusive WASPy firms with more power than most other groups to carry on running things under the radar.

suzy, Monday, 8 July 2019 22:02 (six years ago)

In light of Trump proving the UK Ambassador entirely correct with his latest tweets now would be a great time for May to say the same (wtf does she have to lose) or at least tweet him a link to that video of Johnson criticising him from a few years back.

nashwan, Monday, 8 July 2019 22:15 (six years ago)

Or they could all vanish in a puff of clemency.

nashwan, Monday, 8 July 2019 22:17 (six years ago)

now would be a great time for May to… wtf does she have to lose

feel you have not quite grasped some key things abt may here nash

mark s, Monday, 8 July 2019 22:17 (six years ago)

Remember the time May wouldn’t speak out for Sadiq Khan when Trump was spotlighting him for all his fash followers? Remember when the US leaked the London Bridge attack details? Like she’ll do anything.

gyac, Monday, 8 July 2019 22:29 (six years ago)

Also re anti capitalism & antisemitism

Saying "anti-capitalism is anti-semitic" is...anti-semitic.

It reinforces the racialisation of Jews as the capitalist class, erases the long and proud history of proletarian struggles by Jewish workers & tbh the people hawking this shit don't even believe it themselves.

— michael (@Sisyphusa) March 4, 2019



just because some people are shit at anti-capitalism & personify capital as Jews, that doesn't mean that the capitalist mode of production isn't objectively the most disastrous human and world-destroying force on earth that has also helped to slaughter millions of Jews ffsaaaaake

— michael (@Sisyphusa) March 4, 2019

gyac, Monday, 8 July 2019 22:45 (six years ago)

Sisyphusa really rolling that ball of straw up the hill

Frederik B, Monday, 8 July 2019 23:23 (six years ago)

admin can we get a fred b threadban?

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Monday, 8 July 2019 23:33 (six years ago)

good luck sisyphusa

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Monday, 8 July 2019 23:41 (six years ago)

ae+

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 8 July 2019 23:43 (six years ago)

I'd rather read Michael/Sisyphusa on left-originating AS/racism than just about anyone. Geh kaken afen yam, Fred.

suzy, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 08:30 (six years ago)

I love it when "wise" gentiles dismiss what Jewish people feel and think about AS.

calzino, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 08:45 (six years ago)

Jim otm, he contributes far less than everyone else’s shitposting combined!

gyac, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 09:02 (six years ago)

admin can we get a fred b threadban?


Only if you can say this 10 times quickly

shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 09:03 (six years ago)

From the (very helpful!) vox article posted in reply to my question:

the socialist left...tends to be passionately pro-Palestine.
I think it’s that that I need to think through. That’s not a particularly Labour-centric thing, so I won’t bother this thread with it anymore.

L'assie (Euler), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 09:41 (six years ago)

“The selective extracts leaked do not reflect the closeness of, and the esteem in which we hold, the relationship. At the same time we have also underlined the importance of ambassadors being able to provide honest, unvarnished assessments of the politics in their country. Sir Kim Darroch continues to have the prime minister’s full support.” is actually a little further than I thought she'd go.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 09:45 (six years ago)

There is of course nothing good about Trump but his inability to play the statesman tickles me at times like this.

Polly Toynbee OK (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 09:47 (six years ago)

I regret to inform you that a rabble of terrible articles has now been adapted for the big screen:

https://unherd.com/2019/07/how-the-lib-dems-could-seize-power/

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 10:29 (six years ago)

Skimmed the first three paragraphs and that is heelarious

Wes Wood (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 10:33 (six years ago)

it will be even more piss funny when this huge LibDem surge (encouraged by EU election results and those wacky YouGov jokers) doesn't actually happen, sheeit I've probably ensured it will happen by posting this :(

calzino, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 10:39 (six years ago)

this is the product of a very powerful brain

The results of the election were described by one leading constitutional expert in an emotional late-night TV appearance as “a massive clusterfuck.” Labour technically “won” with 240 seats, marginally ahead of the rump Conservatives on 235. A total of 25 Independent Conservatives returned to the Commons, and the SNP hoovered up 50 Scottish seats.

Swinson marginally avoided losing her own seat, but hung on to cheer as 76 other Lib Dems were elected, taking seats from both Labour and the Tories.

The events that followed led to October 2019 being widely remembered as the most momentous month in British peacetime history. It started with Buckingham Palace signalling that the Queen would not immediately summon Corbyn and ask him to form a Government. As Corbyn’s few remaining media allies fulminated about a constitutional coup, it became clear why the Monarch had hesitated: Tom Watson, still Labour’s deputy leader, announced that he was resigning the Labour whip and would sit as a Social Democrat; he was quickly joined by more than 100 of his former Labour colleagues.

While Johnson, still technically Prime Minister, remained in No 10 facing Tory calls to quit in favour of Farage, Swinson made her move.

More from this author
What's killing the Conservatives?

By James Kirkup

Inspired, as she later confirmed, by an old episode of The West Wing, she summoned TV cameras to film her walking slowly from the House of Commons up Whitehall then along the Mall to Buckingham Palace. Accompanied initially just by her Lib Dem colleagues, she was joined on the way first by Independent Conservative leader Rory Stewart, then by Watson, Emily Thornberry and Sir Keir Starmer.

By the time she reached the gates of the palace, she was able to deliver an impromptu speech declaring she and she alone could command a majority in the House of Commons and that she would wait outside until the Monarch asked her in.

For 57 minutes – later recalled as the longest hour in British history – Swinson waited, insisting that the light London rain was “nothing compared to Dumbarton”. Then the gates swung open.

coroner criticises butt (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 10:42 (six years ago)

the west wing just fuckin destroyed so many brains, the contents of an entire generation's skulls turned to a thin, weak broth by aaron sorkin

coroner criticises butt (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 10:43 (six years ago)

Don't do drugs, kids

Wes Wood (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 10:44 (six years ago)

hah xp

key sentence: "Inspired, as she later confirmed, by an old episode of The West Wing,..."

Captain ACAB (Neil S), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 10:45 (six years ago)

Unherd is hilarious. Idk who is pumping money into them, Tortoise, Drugstore Culture, etc. They can’t generate any income at all.

ShariVari, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 10:49 (six years ago)

NV, I know we've had our differences, but if you persevere here you won't regret it, apart from immediately and for the rest of your life.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 10:49 (six years ago)

Terrible politics sites are the new think tanks

Wes Wood (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 10:50 (six years ago)

Ah Andrew differences are no reason not to come together around beauty like this

Wes Wood (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 10:51 (six years ago)

the incredible gravitational pull of the centrism planet prevents all but the most energetic new ideas from reaching escape velocity

new ideas like... what if jo swinson, but prime minister?

coroner criticises butt (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 10:54 (six years ago)

Tommy Robinson has launched a public appeal for Donald Trump to grant him asylum, as he faces imprisonment for contempt of court

“I need evacuation from this country because dark forces are at work,” he said

https://t.co/fntNX5I7sv

— Lizzie Dearden (@lizziedearden) July 8, 2019

Yack Yack wants Trump to save him from rogue british justice and the hours of poundage his fat arse is going to get when he gets sent down.

calzino, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 10:55 (six years ago)

sorry tommy, america's full up iirc

coroner criticises butt (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 10:56 (six years ago)

As I said re that weird CH piece about Hunt, these people would be better suitee publishing this stuff on ao3 rather than getting paid real money for it. Imagine having that much money to piss up the wall.

gyac, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 10:57 (six years ago)

8/10

it has most of the basics but is missing two major points. Boris should be attempting to persuade Swinson to do a pact, preferably wearing rags for reasons unknown, and just as she is deciding whether to take pity on him and/or what policies she can extract from with superior gameplay Watson rides in to save the day, followed by a cavalry of centrist soldiers, sleeves rolled up

Also where is the tortuous Lionesses tie-in. Presumably written too early but an our brave girls or talented ladies would have worked almost as well
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anvil, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 10:57 (six years ago)

drugstore culture's funding was fairly clear i think: it had one rich backer whose (very bad) idea of a successful rightwing youthsite differed sharply from his chosen editor's ditto

(that editor -- matthew d'4ncon4 -- is an idiot and a tory but tbfth he acted a lot more honourably than ooh let's say jason fkn cowley just did, when his staff came under attack) (viz iirc drugstore culture's publisher suddenly sacked a bunch of the women journalists and editors and m d'a resigned in solidarity)

anyway i think it has now been scrubbed from the entire internet and totally memoryholed

mark s, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 10:59 (six years ago)

a huge loss for the marketplace of ideas

coroner criticises butt (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 11:01 (six years ago)

actually the word "memoryhole" reminds me of this nicely judged thread:

David Aaronovitch's train is late. He is reminded of how trains were late in the old Soviet Union.

— The Justin Horton Show (@ejhchess) July 9, 2019

mark s, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 11:02 (six years ago)

what do we all make of the labour announcement? is this a victory or defeat for mccluskey et al?

ogmor, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 11:04 (six years ago)

pic.twitter.com/egMsLRbSOx

— James (@Gilofthepeople) July 8, 2019

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 11:04 (six years ago)

Mark otm re Jason Cowley

gyac, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 11:06 (six years ago)

ok i know this is niche and a lost battle and i am a professional proofreader and therefore have standards no one else grasps or acres about but MILIBAND ONLY HAS ONE L u fuxors

xp

mark s, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 11:10 (six years ago)

someone repost the medium article on all the weird right wing astroturfed newsletters

||||||||, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 11:10 (six years ago)

ok i know this is niche and a lost battle

you're right, you should take the l

coroner criticises butt (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 11:12 (six years ago)

billie holiday
mahatma gandhi
the miliband brothers (and their sainted dad)

maybe it's good to also be enraged at things which haven't yet gathered political torque >:(

mark s, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 11:12 (six years ago)

"A typical comment made by 12 year olds while arguing on mainstream Youtube music videos" :D

(context: i knew what take the L means w/o knowing what the L actually stands for, a quick check on urban dictionary supplies further relevant information)

mark s, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 11:15 (six years ago)

a decent step up from my usual standard of posting iow

coroner criticises butt (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 11:17 (six years ago)

Well, I’m writing for Tortoise now, and their remit is long reads and news features - thankfully NO thinkpieces so far.

suzy, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 11:24 (six years ago)

millions now living will never think

coroner criticises butt (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 11:25 (six years ago)


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