This is a good and fun moviePost-credits sequence is spoiled by the credits - my wife and I were like “hey, when did they play The Specials?” and wait-for-it, ta-da.
― El Tomboto, Friday, 5 July 2019 23:22 (four years ago) link
lol i had the same reactiontbf though it was guaranteed that there would be something after the final credits, endgame must be the only one out of the 23 movies that didn't do it, right? (And then they added some deleted scenes on recent runs)
― Nhex, Saturday, 6 July 2019 00:55 (four years ago) link
MJ is a great character. Her reaction to webslinging was priceless and perfect.
― brigadier pudding (DJP), Saturday, 6 July 2019 00:56 (four years ago) link
Zendaya's the best
I liked this much more than I was expecting to.
― akm, Saturday, 6 July 2019 01:01 (four years ago) link
this was fun! every Marvel movie is exactly as good as every other Marvel movie basically, B+
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 6 July 2019 01:08 (four years ago) link
The mid- and post- credits bits are even better when contrasted with Homecoming, though
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 6 July 2019 01:19 (four years ago) link
i don't even remember homecoming's end credits scenes
these seemed like the most substantive ones from a marvel movie in some time. also interesting to see jk simmons back playing a character from Raimi Spiderfilms
― akm, Saturday, 6 July 2019 01:49 (four years ago) link
the homecoming end-credits was captain america making fun of you for waiting around for an end-credits scene
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 6 July 2019 01:57 (four years ago) link
the other one was Michael Keaton in person not revealing Peter's identity, setting up his return in a future sequel and a little more interesting now
― Nhex, Saturday, 6 July 2019 02:24 (four years ago) link
in prison
also can i say the #flashmob joke was so bad and groanworthy i almost loved it
we were talking about end credits scenes once and a guy I used to work with was like "oh you mean a Skeletor?" we were like what??apparently there's an end credits scene in the old Masters of the Universe movie where Skeletor appears and says I'll get you next time He-Man ah hahaha so him and his friends started calling end credit scenes Skeletors so I think about that every time I see one
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 6 July 2019 02:34 (four years ago) link
Apparently there is some sort of Fantastic Four easter egg in this?
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 6 July 2019 14:49 (four years ago) link
Seems like a stretch to me
https://movieweb.com/spider-man-far-from-home-fantastic-four-easter-egg/
― akm, Sunday, 7 July 2019 15:38 (four years ago) link
It's a reference to this being the final movie of Phase 3.
― Nhex, Sunday, 7 July 2019 16:22 (four years ago) link
Just saw this- tons of fun. It was a nice capper to Endgame and Mysterio was one of the better baddies they've had in a while. Overall looked pretty nice too. After Spider-Verse I thought this would look rather poor, but they managed to take the right inspiration from it instead. The kids had a lot of charm - I actually could have gone for even more of them fucking around on the trip at the expense of some of the web-slinging.
― the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Sunday, 7 July 2019 17:37 (four years ago) link
― gbx, Sunday, 7 July 2019 17:53 (four years ago) link
this was really fun, love all the teen stuff, glad someone is making fun colorful teen movies --- kinda old-fashioned in a way, like we arrive in different world cities and get little travelogue shots of them, instead of just an aerial shot and a typewriter font announcing "PRAGUE.". all the supporting players are good, the jokes are frequent and funny, and it moves along pretty quick.however i hated all the nick fury stuff, and about 50% of the references to "tony." also this is like the eighth one of these movies about a super-powerful spy-on-anyone, kill-anyone-on-earth drone system. did tony not get around to watching The Winter Soldier, or what? anyway spider-man going overseas should be a great excuse to get away from all that and just let him be spider-man doing spider-man stuff. the concluding scenes worsen this dramatically imo - no spoilers but the status quo being set up for the next one seems to really close off a down-the-middle spider-man movie. maybe we'll have to just count on a miles morales sequel for that.
― Good morning, how are you, I'm (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 7 July 2019 17:57 (four years ago) link
also "the blip" explanation for what happened in Endgame made noooo sense to me...not that i want this to feel even more burdened by the other movies but it was distractingly confusing. i guess they're just never going to really deal in any way with how weird that situation was/is. even in Endgame it was like one scene of paul rudd visiting a memorial, and next thing we see it's hulk signing autographs for happy children in a diner, like.... there was still a functioning economy....? they still have diners?? such a great bizarre scifi premise, or even a classic comic book way to create an alternate timeline and meet alternate versions of characters or w/e, just totally jerked around for plot purposes and disposed of.
― Good morning, how are you, I'm (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 7 July 2019 18:07 (four years ago) link
The blip stuff made no sense to me and was barely explored, to the extent that they didn't really need to bring it up at all.
What I loved about this movie is a) the villain's crazy explanation for who he is and where he's come from is totally accepted as fact, because at this point in this world of time travel and alien invasions and Spider-man multi-verses, why not? and b) even though everyone expects the villain to be a/the villain, this movie had some serious misdirection mojo working, in that at least to me the villain's reveal as a villain *still* came as something of a surprise.
And as far as "huh?" questions for me go, I don't have many for this one! Except this: the EDITH glasses are so attuned they even know what his classmates are texting to one another in real time, you'd think they'd have an alert for "danger: disgruntled unstable former Stark employee who helped design my tech!"
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 7 July 2019 18:16 (four years ago) link
Mysterio was one of the better baddies they've had in a while...
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Sunday, 7 July 2019 19:59 (four years ago) link
anyone with any knowledge of spiderman comics already knows this.
― akm, Sunday, 7 July 2019 20:05 (four years ago) link
Fun flick, saw it today. BETTER THAN THE FIRST
― Lactose Shaolin Wanker (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 7 July 2019 20:13 (four years ago) link
That's what I was saying, even though everybody knows who the villain is I thought they still handled it well.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 7 July 2019 20:22 (four years ago) link
It’s really interesting to me that both of the MCU Spider-Man movies have Peter dealing with his own shortcomings while dealing with the results of Stark’s shortcomings. Stark is such a big shot he has no time to notice all the supervillains he enables in his wake, and Parker is a fucking teenager compelled to fight them, more or less a draftee. You could probably write a good length piece on how both of these movies are really about the unavoidable collateral damage that results from every arms race in human history.
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 7 July 2019 20:30 (four years ago) link
I mean, when he says “Avengers-level” He literally means “hundreds of people are dying all over the place rn”
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 7 July 2019 20:34 (four years ago) link
You could probably write a good length piece on how both of these movies are really about the unavoidable collateral damage that results from every arms race in human history.
Or maybe the psychology of *being* the weapon.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 7 July 2019 21:04 (four years ago) link
Or how I only post stuff like that after four of those really good IPAs that look like pulp-free orange juice
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 7 July 2019 23:48 (four years ago) link
NEIPAs?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 July 2019 00:03 (four years ago) link
NEIPAs should be the hero *and* villain of the next Spider-man movie.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 July 2019 00:05 (four years ago) link
_Spider-Man: Frat Beer Bust_
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 8 July 2019 00:22 (four years ago) link
Maybe he can “blip” to 21 and discover getting smashed as his big second-act fuckup
― El Tomboto, Monday, 8 July 2019 00:38 (four years ago) link
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 8 July 2019 03:23 (four years ago) link
once again, really impressed with how they make a goofy-ass Sinister Six villain both both legitimately threatening and also credibly-motivated to e.g. put a fishbowl on his head
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 8 July 2019 03:34 (four years ago) link
what makes these great teen movies: NEVER trust the adults
― Nhex, Monday, 8 July 2019 06:32 (four years ago) link
I'm tired of Spider-Man being beholden to the MCU Iron Man legacy junk but I did chortle when they revealed what the acronym EDITH stood for
― untuned mass damper (mh), Monday, 8 July 2019 14:37 (four years ago) link
That was my favorite joke in the movie
― brigadier pudding (DJP), Monday, 8 July 2019 14:37 (four years ago) link
I'm tired of Spider-Man being beholden to the MCU Iron Man legacy junk
― the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 8 July 2019 15:09 (four years ago) link
Oh, I'm fine with the MCU stuff, just him being Iron Man's little buddy/surrogate/heir thing is what I was finding tiring
spoiler zone here, but having yet another major character be directly linked to Tony Stark was a little much
― untuned mass damper (mh), Monday, 8 July 2019 15:14 (four years ago) link
I thought it was a little OTT in this movie too, but I mean they basically made Tony the MCU starting point from his first movie one... so it's not terribly surprising.
Loved this one though, so glad I'm able to see these in the theater with my 7 year-old now, he had a blast with it.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 8 July 2019 15:23 (four years ago) link
MCU is all about dad problems so it makes sense
― Nhex, Monday, 8 July 2019 15:37 (four years ago) link
Also, re: Avengers-level problem - I hope the post credit-scene is a hint to where the remaining heavy hitters are (Thor we know is in space with the Asgardians of the Galaxy, but what about everybody else that survived Endgame?)
― Nhex, Monday, 8 July 2019 15:39 (four years ago) link
it's just kinda weird since movies like GOTG have more than proved that you don't need the almighty Tony for people to buy into a Marvel movie, and the Raimi movies more than proved that people love Spider-Man as a standalone character doing whatever a spider can. also, the specific stuff they're saddling Spider-Man with by this route is exactly what everyone agreed was the worst part of Civil War (the comic book event, not the movie).meanwhile i'm just so tired of the word "tech" getting thrown around in these movies. michael douglas having to say "he wanted my tech" or w/e in the first Ant-Man was clearly the jumping the shark moment for this shit. it's not like these movies even offer a beautiful or compelling or mind-expanding aesthetic of the tech imaginary outside of Wakanda --- it's all kinda blah and samey and TV ready (that awful upstate avengers campus is the apex of this).... an ideological expression of confidence in the high-tech surveillance state and its shining blah bureaucratic objects and locales. it would be nice if someone in-movie would point this out tbh - Saint Tony has 2-3 totally objectionable world-domination and total-control infrastructures to his name, maybe spy satellites and killer drones are bad things not good things? zendaya's MJ would be great for this and that could create interesting conflicts for peter parker. in homecoming she had that great line abt the washington monument being built by slaves: a woke teen character for our moment, cool! but now in the new one, the idea is that she's like a dark teen who's into weird conspiracy stories about world monuments, a pretty shameless neutering given all the other things the eiffel tower could prompt her to say.
― Good morning, how are you, I'm (Doctor Casino), Monday, 8 July 2019 15:42 (four years ago) link
an ideological expression of confidence in the high-tech surveillance state and its shining blah bureaucratic objects and locales wait wasn't the whole point of Winter Soldier against this, also them bringing back Nick Fury for this seemed a deliberate callback to the same theme?also the avengers movies have consistently shown Tony as an arrogant technocratic asshole. Age of Ultron was all his fault!
― Nhex, Monday, 8 July 2019 15:44 (four years ago) link
The post-credit scene no doubt sets up the post-S.H.I.E.L.D. shift to S.W.O.R.D., no?
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 8 July 2019 15:46 (four years ago) link
^^^
― brigadier pudding (DJP), Monday, 8 July 2019 16:20 (four years ago) link
They're going to bring the X-Men into the fold by introducing Abigail Brand and her mutant boyfriend, Hank McCoy
― brigadier pudding (DJP), Monday, 8 July 2019 16:22 (four years ago) link
Exactly what I was thinking while I walked out.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 8 July 2019 16:30 (four years ago) link
Re: the goodness/badness of high-tech surveillance drones with lots of weaponry, I don't think it's fair or particularly sensible to come away with the impression that the movie was in favor of them given what they were used for all throughout the second act; like, the actual plot is an example of Why These Things Are Bad And We Shouldn't Do Them.
― brigadier pudding (DJP), Monday, 8 July 2019 16:33 (four years ago) link
even on the bus Peter is battling against Stark's dronenever understood how the photo got wiped from Brad's phone though. my son said "they must have deleted that scene" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 8 July 2019 17:41 (four years ago) link