Seizing back control: The ILX lol brexit is how we're all gonna die thread.

Yes for the record I obviously don't think ILX posts constitute joining in a pile-on as no one actually reads this board other than noted lurker John McTernan who as far as I know isn't a far-right hate figure.

Guys we need to calm down and keep posting as we normally do. Wasn’t accusing anyone, especially not my secret fave, of piling on OJ - just think he gets a lot of shit from people for spurious reasons as well as the normal ones.

And Matt, you’d think a regular to this thread such as yourself would remember me self-outing as MR Seu*mas M1lne a while back?

And actually a better reason for me to defend OJ is that he does call out racism in the media and class in the media and takes a huge amount of shit for it.

Speaking of racism:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/04/ann-widdecombe-likens-brexit-to-emancipation-of-slaves

Deeply glad Strictly rehabilitated this ghoul in the public eye.

has anyone in the UK press cottoned on to the fact that the top brass in the SNP are now in open warfare about the gender recognition act ?

― ||||||||, Thursday, July 4, 2019 5:14 AM (four hours ago)

has been covered a bit in the telegraph, spectator had a piece about the heroism of joan mcalpine's brave transphobia in the face of the "scottish political establishment", saw something about it in the new statesmen etc. i just think any sort of scottish political drama that isn't about the union or doesn't cause the snp a huge electoral backlash is hardly going to set the heather alight in the rUK press

(xp) The woman who was anti-Semitic about the leader of her own party. What a character.

xp. obviously if you're a centrist fucking snp politico and you're a transphobe you should go fuck yourself off the scott monument post haste

The problem with this issue is most of the press is like, “lol, fuck the Nats” and also “lol, fuck trans people”, so there’s no side for them to take.

yeah i think you've hit the nail on the head.

sadly the division in the SNP leadership reflects the division in opinion in scottish society.

Just read an article in a prestigious Romanian journal that caters to the (right-wing, by default) intellectual caste about how 'sexo-Marxism' is slowly but surely overtaking Europe and how we must do everything within our power to resist its tyrannical ascension. Do you not see that the situation in Scotland is but a microscopic piece of a greater civilisational puzzle? We must stop sexo-Marxism!

striking chink in their usually steadfast message discipline but

gyac OTM re OJ - probably the only person to (or at least try to) call out O'Neil on his own show re Spectator cvntery so still gets some points

Just read an article in a prestigious Romanian journal that caters to the (right-wing, by default) intellectual caste about how 'sexo-Marxism' is slowly but surely overtaking Europe and how we must do everything within our power to resist its tyrannical ascension. Do you not see that the situation in Scotland is but a microscopic piece of a greater civilisational puzzle? We must stop sexo-Marxism!

― pomenitul, Thursday, July 4, 2019 10:26 AM (one minute ago)

there was an albertan tory who was railing against the NDP's "sex marxism" recently. great minds think alike

might try and create an ndp sex marxist caucus

Straight out of Jordan Peterson's rhetorical toolbox.

I'd be down for that! As soon as I move back to Montreal.

xp

I've never quite been able to work out why, in the midst of raging transphobia from the supposed liberal-left media in this country, the Conservative Party seems so broadly unfussed about trans rights? Most of their MPs didn't bother to vote against it and almost as many voted in favour of it as voted against.

some of them probably more venal than outright evil

I mean, this only holds if you consider the Times a liberal/left paper and the Times has led on that agenda more than any other part of the media. I mean, what else do they pay Janice Turner for?

Sadly, Janice Turner will be in post and be given carte blanche to write any old shite as long as her husband is Executive Editor (he is Peter Preston’s son)

the guardian had an editorial concern trolling for transphobia and saying neither side is wrong in the debate between trans people and terfs over the gender recognition act,lest we forget

Not denying that about the Guardian (or the NS) but the Times is the paper of record and it’s running scare stories about trans people on the front page.

I don’t think this was posted? Love love love Pidcock.

"Are you bored, Nick?" The BBC's Nick Robinson @bbcnickrobinson has his arse handed to him on a plate - by @LauraPidcockMP. 👏👏👏 #r4today pic.twitter.com/PDmMSTfIOg

— Labour Grassroots (@LabGrassroots) July 3, 2019

yeah posted something about that at the time. she's really excellent. "arse handed on a plate" is probably a bit strong - but she didn't brook no bullshit distraction speak from him and reminded him why she was there.

nice that MI5 got tom harwood the call up to QT as a treat for his aman smear

God, I know. Horrible ghoul.

At least we still have Jonny L.

It’s time to legalise cannabis. Supporters in UK outnumber opponents 3:2, in London 3:1. Stop criminalising young people! Disclosure: I was arrested for possession at 19 but now I prefer to self-medicate with alcohol in moderation (usually) & hate skunk https://t.co/WlJ4jK8SIK

— Jon Lansman (@jonlansman) July 1, 2019

more of a mellow sativa man i suppose

Wish I was still on Twitter so I could "there are different strains bro"

I’m sure @TommyCorbyn is on the case, both with Jon L & his old man

can sense a long Peter Hitchens screed is in the post

Amused to see the gutter press trying it on with Tommy Corbyn’s National Hemp Service a few months back, to no avail (tbf to the gutter press, they generally prefer Class A’s).

the jen williams piece on oldham has been getting a bit of attention and is worth a look if anyone hasn't seen it yet. it's pretty broad but one little stat that stood out - Arrears at the borough’s social landlord, First Choice, have risen by nearly £500,000 since Universal Credit came in.

https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/magazine/hope-amid-hard-times-in-oldham

What has Owen Jones said or done that is bad?

I think if you look at all the people in the media, here or anywhere, he must be in the best 1% of it.

I don't like everything he says but I strongly consider him to be on my side and am glad he is out there campaigning, one way or another, every day.

Pinefox OTM.

ya narcissism of small differences mostly about OJ, he is, taking the broader view, a good thing

let us never criticize him again

I am most impressed with the way he quietly gets on with his campaigning in a calm manner as he usually does..

he is certainly above criticism, and should never be discussed for being sucked into stupid talking points that undermine the Labour leadership

big up that traffic warden though, the one that slapped a ticket on the Yack Yack bus outside court. and did it such brio and gaiety as to upset his squad of raggedyarsed beta football hooligans. And then he says "I love this job!".

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/SM-COMP-WARDEN-1.jpg?strip=all&quality=100&w=1200&h=800&crop=1

never had a car and hate 'em, so I've never vilified traffic wardens the way most ppl seem to.

people who hate traffic wardens are dicks

someone has to stop these white van pricks/thoughtless idiots kerbing their fucking vehicles and parking in disabled spaces etc..

E.P. Thompson on the “European values” and faux internationalism of Tom Watson and his ilk: pic.twitter.com/LLxv1Itowr

— Paul O'Connell (@pmpoc) July 6, 2019

beautiful little E.P. Thompson quote here on the bullshit internationalism of the EU much celebrated by the blue face clowns. Also this morning was listening to the farming program and the agricultural sector is finding it harder to attract enough workers from eastern Europe because of exchange rates on sterling getting less favourable. So to fill this gap they are going to have to start recruiting from further afield. They have been giving 6 month temp visas to workers from Latvia/Belarus, but only 2500 so far.

If they manage to completely tank sterling brits will have to start picking their own crops again.

Rare bit of Brexit humour (because most of the traders voted out and most customers voted in) at the farmer’s market today: veg farmer/dad joke specialist asked about lettuces, says ‘well, you can have leaf or you can have Romaine’.

I love a lettuce joke. "a group of rich nations feeding each other goodies" isn't much of an indictment of The European Project - the food is one of the best bits

I don't think E P Thompson meant it like that, but farmers being able to grow crops that otherwise would be a loss maker thanks to EU subsidiaries is a good thing.

That's why brexity farmers are a strange bunch really.