what are barack obama's flaws?

"I suspect obama will drag his feet on gay issues so im going to enable a VP candidate that believes in witches!"

& for the 90th time i dont see how u can say im kissing obamas ass here since im entirely agreeing that his (lack of a) stance on gay rights is totally unacceptable

An election in which the GOP had no chance and the Democratic candidate had already waffled on FISA and gay marriage tastes a lot better, esp. with a side of fries.

Fair enough.

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while the more...over-dramatic anti-obama hissy fits i've read really irk me, i think what's worse is reading people dismissing them as flouncing gays - what you're seeing is people suddenly realising that all that stuff about hope and change still, once again, doesn't apply to them. and the creeping suspicion that obama simply doesn't see this issue as one of morality and civil rights.

you know, i think that "fierce advocate" line makes me more angry than any of the other stuff. it's like...no. NO. don't fucking LIE, man.

im entirely agreeing that his (lack of a) stance on gay rights is totally unacceptable

― autogucci cru (deej), Sunday, June 14, 2009 6:31 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

except that you're saying that their filing in this case is okay because obama should be pushing for gay rights through the legislature, but he isn't doing that either - who cares what his "stance" is? i personally have a stance of wanting to go to the moon. what's the difference at this point?

except that you're saying that their filing in this case is okay because obama should be pushing for gay rights through the legislature, but he isn't doing that either - who cares what his "stance" is? i personally have a stance of wanting to go to the moon. what's the difference at this point?

― let free dom ring (J0rdan S.), Sunday, June 14, 2009 6:39 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

where did i say that?? im saying that their filing in this case is ok because if they'd done it any other way it would be counterproductive, and that they SHOULD be pushing for gay rights legislation. as i say in the sentence you just quoted back to me

and what point when they don't push for gay rights through legislation does everyone defending them on this step up and say "this is horseshit"? in 2016?

i personally am against going to the moon

^another palin enabler

and what point when they don't push for gay rights through legislation does everyone defending them on this step up and say "this is horseshit"? in 2016?

― let free dom ring (J0rdan S.), Sunday, June 14, 2009 6:46 PM (29 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

im saying its horseshit that they are not pushing for legislation. how about we focus on that instead of what some former bush appointee said in his asinine but ultimately pointless DOJ defense of DOMA?

i dont know where u guys are getting this parody of my position here -- i was the one comparing inaction to MLK's 'letter from a birmingham jail' upthread, remember?

Obama has easily done more in his first few months than any president since FDR

Statistics, please?

ok, wrong word -- I think Reagan and Carter "did" at least as much, for good or ill.

http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Netanyahu_speech_an_important_step__06142009.html

NOTHING TO DO W/ OBAMA'S FLAWS

Dr Morbius: Anti-Peace

Rep. Keith Ellison on Obama and the progressives: http://www.politicalaffairs.net/article/articleview/8657/

http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/06/16/howard-dean-obama-anti-gay-language/

Obama to give benefits for same-sex partners of federal employees

there's some docu on don't ask don't tell on a lot of public access stations this evening, according to a feature on NPR, if anyone's interested

half-assed damage control imo, but at least something

It's either that, really poor timing (ie, it was already in the works and the DOJ clusterfuck beat it out the door) or some combination ("shit, let's push this out now instead of waiting until September").

honestly surprised fed employees don't have this already

what are barack obama's flaws? ― HIS VAGINA IS MAKING HIM CRAVE SALAD

^^^ Kinda unsettling to see that one in New Answers

still a valid flaw tho

really hope the right-wing blogosphere doesn't find out O has a V

ok so i'm hearing that this presidential memorandum will only extend relocation benefits, NOT health or retirement benefits -- if that's the case then this is some straight up bullshit. also, as a memorandum it will expire when he leaves office. ugh

He can swat a fly, you know...

BREAKING NEWS

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(xpost damn!)

That's a great expression.

o rly?

so sick of hearing about the fly-swatting

ok so i'm hearing that this presidential memorandum will only extend relocation benefits, NOT health or retirement benefits -- if that's the case then this is some straight up bullshit.

Obama's hands are tied by, you guessed it, DOMA. From Politico: However, the Defense of Marriage Act prohibits the federal government from extending health and retirement benefits to same-sex couples, so the benefits are more likely to be marginal -- like relocation assistance.

fucking Clinton

lol what a pathetic sop this is

agreed

like...this is seriously the best he can offer? why even bother

so that when it's time for you to donate money again people can say "he tried"

eh, poor attempt at damage control.

I am really surprised at his poor political instincts here. I can understand not wanting to throw the repeal of DOMA into the current legislative agenda, but he could at least be laying the groundwork for it, both rhetorically and behind the scenes.

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so that when it's time for you to donate money again people can say "he tried"

?? He hasn't tried shit!

altho the irony of him being on the hook for cleaning up Clinton's fuckup is ... well not delicious but its somethin

Barney's angry

haaa this is great:

http://www.obamasplanforgayrights.com/

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0609/Obama_Just_a_start.html

Not the world's biggest Conan the Barbarian expert:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW7OPByRGDY

haaa this is great:

http://www.obamasplanforgayrights.com/

oh how fucking clever
good thing boyo got that copyrighted

In general, how much one criticizes Obama is largely a function of the areas on which one tends to focus. If I had spent the week writing about Iran, I would be largely defending -- and praising -- Obama's very wise restraint, even in the face of bipartisan political pressure, when it comes to interfering in Iran's internal political disputes. His private and public refusal to cheer on all of Israel's policies is also commendable. Conversely, those who focus on gay issues have been understandably furious with the administration, and in the areas of civil liberties, secrecy, and his Justice Department generally, the administration has been nothing short of abysmal. Criticizing the Right for its support of these positions is understandable, but in our modern political culture, the President is, far and away, the driving force, and those who supported him can have far more of an impact pointing out, rather than ignoring, the role he is playing in advancing these policies.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/06/20/dna/index.html

what's michelle been up to lately?

Staying the fuck out of the health care debate?

serious question