I knew heading into this it would be really tricky--maybe even more than comedy or horror, in terms of what qualifies. All I can say is use your best judgement.
― clemenza, Sunday, 30 June 2019 01:44 (four years ago) link
DickBob RobertsSuddenly!Bad EggsRats In The RanksDON'S motherfucking PARTY
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Sunday, 30 June 2019 01:46 (four years ago) link
Which Suddenly, sic--the old Sinatra film or the quasi-remake?
― clemenza, Sunday, 30 June 2019 11:07 (four years ago) link
Lots of online lists; this one's a good mix of the literal and the more metaphorical (with the usual barrage of click-through ads):
http://www.mandatory.com/culture/962677-big-list-50-best-political-movies-ever
I'll add The Conformist and Game Change. I haven't seen Wiseman's State Legislature, but--again, no politicians and no elections--I've got to nominate Welfare.
― clemenza, Sunday, 30 June 2019 11:34 (four years ago) link
election (2005)shin godzillaothon
― devvvine, Sunday, 30 June 2019 12:32 (four years ago) link
The President Vanishes (1934)Gabriel Over the White House (1933)Washington Merry-Go-Round (1932)The Washington Masquerade (1932)
What was that one w Streep as ThatcherThe Iron Lady (2011). Which loops in The Manchurian Candidate (1962 and 2004)
― Anne Hedonia (j.lu), Sunday, 30 June 2019 13:49 (four years ago) link
DantonLa CommunePunishment ParkWinstanley
― Rory end to the lowenbrow (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 30 June 2019 14:12 (four years ago) link
Nocturama
― calzino, Sunday, 30 June 2019 14:18 (four years ago) link
If you're receptive to long and massively problematic silent films, Birth of a Nation (1915) and Intolerance (1916).
If you're receptive to George Arliss:Alexander Hamilton (1931)Disraeli (1929, and a lost 1921 version)Voltaire (1933)The House of Rothchild (1934)
― Anne Hedonia (j.lu), Sunday, 30 June 2019 14:23 (four years ago) link
The Taking Of Power By Louis XIV (1970)
classic(underrated?) made for tv movie by Rossellini.
― calzino, Sunday, 30 June 2019 14:31 (four years ago) link
is there a bit of a thin line between what arguably makes a political movie or a war movie? fuck knows.
― calzino, Sunday, 30 June 2019 14:35 (four years ago) link
could movies like The 317th Platoon and The Red and the White be nommed as political movies?
― calzino, Sunday, 30 June 2019 14:41 (four years ago) link
Surely war films are part of political film but this might widen it considerably.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 30 June 2019 14:44 (four years ago) link
The Sorrow and the Pity
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 30 June 2019 14:47 (four years ago) link
could movies like The 317th Platoon and The Red and the White be nommed as political movies?― calzino, Sunday, June 30, 2019 10:41 AM
Surely war films are part of political film but this might widen it considerably.― xyzzzz__, Sunday, June 30, 2019 10:44 AM
Both apply--I'm leaving it up to your judgement. I haven't been including nominations posed as questions thus far ("Could..."); just nominate something, and it goes on the list.
― clemenza, Sunday, 30 June 2019 14:50 (four years ago) link
Do ‘The Big Short’ and ‘Margin Call’ count or are they finance movies?
Finance is intimately bound to politics, but I don't remember Margin Call featuring the political infrastructure that enabled the markets to get themselves into that fix. Did The Big Short call out the watchdogs that failed to bark?
Speaking of finance meeting politics and the media, The Bonfire of the Vanities (1990).
― Anne Hedonia (j.lu), Sunday, 30 June 2019 14:56 (four years ago) link
xps
The Sorrow and the Pity is something I'm going to watch soon cos of the glowing mentions in France: The Dark Years, and I thought I'd seen it, but might be getting it mixed up with Hotel Terminus.
― calzino, Sunday, 30 June 2019 14:57 (four years ago) link
If it's a film you like and would probably vote for, and you're on the fence about whether it's political enough, nominate it. If other voters agree, it might place.
But I'd probably avoid nominating borderline films if you don't plan on voting for it yourself.
― clemenza, Sunday, 30 June 2019 15:00 (four years ago) link
A president, unless also Gerard Butler
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 30 June 2019 15:04 (four years ago) link
I would consider 2012 more political than Independence Day (but I'm fine with them both being outwith the scope here)
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 30 June 2019 15:05 (four years ago) link
To Live (Zhang Yimou, 1994)
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 30 June 2019 15:08 (four years ago) link
I'm not sure what that means...
― clemenza, Sunday, 30 June 2019 15:16 (four years ago) link
Oh I'm just joking - that the three "Gerard Butler saves the President" films shouldn't count as they're really not very interested in politics (and, I understand, terrible)
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 30 June 2019 15:19 (four years ago) link
A Touch of Sin (2013)
― Rory end to the lowenbrow (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 30 June 2019 15:20 (four years ago) link
was thinking of nomming that but thought it was .. hmm fuck knows.. erm cinema verite/social realism with genre touches.. but would happily vote for it nevertheless cos it's class.
― calzino, Sunday, 30 June 2019 15:23 (four years ago) link
on that note..
Platform (2000)
― calzino, Sunday, 30 June 2019 15:26 (four years ago) link
Could nom and vote for almost all of Jia's, same applies to Peter Watkins tbh. Am mulling over Buñuel at the moment.
― Rory end to the lowenbrow (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 30 June 2019 15:28 (four years ago) link
ArgoCharlie Wilson's War
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Sunday, 30 June 2019 16:09 (four years ago) link
Amazing GraceThe Baader-Meinhof ComplexLincolnMunichThe Rise of Michael RimmerScandal
― Dan Worsley, Sunday, 30 June 2019 16:18 (four years ago) link
The Life and Death of Colonel BlimpHitler: A film from GermanyGermany in AutumnThe Third GenerationThe Lost Honor of Katherina BlumThe Second Awakening of Crista KlagesBattleship PotemkinPostwar History of Japan as Told by a Bar HostessToo Early, too LateBeing GypsyThe FallXalaA Soft note on a Sharp ScaleHiroshima Mon AmourJeanne Dielman, 23 Quai du Commerce, 1080 BruxellesVietnam in WarThe PatriotOne Man's WarCome and SeeHere and ElsewhereRome, Open CityNarita: Peasants of the Second FortressBlack PanthersFar from VietnamHour of the FurnacesDeath by Hanging
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 30 June 2019 17:00 (four years ago) link
Germany, Year ZeroDay of WrathSobibór, October 14, 1943, 4 p.m.
― calzino, Sunday, 30 June 2019 17:12 (four years ago) link
I think Sobibór is the greatest of Lanzmann's docs. The bit where Lerner describes standing nervously behind a hulking SS officer with an axe in his hand, describing that moment just before delivering the savage coup de grace to his fucking fat head is just amazing. I think it was a Shoah offcut but it is so powerful.
― calzino, Sunday, 30 June 2019 17:28 (four years ago) link
The Human Condition trilogyThe Leopard
― calzino, Sunday, 30 June 2019 17:47 (four years ago) link
I'll periodically repost the nominations document:
http://docs.google.com/document/d/12Ts0EtUkx1eDgstQGLQePHbwFtBGL5rbyDtIyRtziek/edit
xyzzzz: by Black Panthers, do you mean The Black Panthers: Vanguard of the Revolution from a few years ago, or is it something earlier?
― clemenza, Sunday, 30 June 2019 17:52 (four years ago) link
Should The Human Condition be treated as one film or three (haven't seen it)?
― clemenza, Sunday, 30 June 2019 17:54 (four years ago) link
There’s a Varda doc called black panthers
― shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Sunday, 30 June 2019 17:56 (four years ago) link
Thanks--I'll include both (I've seen the more recent).
― clemenza, Sunday, 30 June 2019 17:58 (four years ago) link
xxp erm it's a trilogy based on one novel iirc and splitting it up takes up more room ..
― calzino, Sunday, 30 June 2019 17:59 (four years ago) link
well one six-volume novel.. but different times!
― calzino, Sunday, 30 June 2019 18:00 (four years ago) link
Chinatown
― shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Sunday, 30 June 2019 18:03 (four years ago) link
army of shadows
― devvvine, Sunday, 30 June 2019 18:05 (four years ago) link
Sansho The Bailiff
feudal politics is politics
― calzino, Sunday, 30 June 2019 18:14 (four years ago) link
A City of Sadness
― calzino, Sunday, 30 June 2019 18:29 (four years ago) link
Le Gai savoir
― Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Sunday, 30 June 2019 18:35 (four years ago) link
Citizen KaneA Lion Is in the Streets
― Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Sunday, 30 June 2019 18:38 (four years ago) link
All the King's Men (1949 version)
― Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Sunday, 30 June 2019 18:41 (four years ago) link
Clemenza - sorry yeah meant the Varda
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 30 June 2019 19:09 (four years ago) link
Having just gotten to the 1954 this month after a year on my Kanopy queue, I am mad at you for revealing a Uwe Boll remake
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Sunday, 30 June 2019 19:38 (four years ago) link
Point of Order, Millhouse: A White Comedy. There are other de Antonio films that would fit too--those are two I've seen.
...So Goes the Nation, Horns and Halos.
― clemenza, Sunday, 30 June 2019 20:25 (four years ago) link
Crisis: Behind a Presidential CommitmentMeet John DoeOctober: Ten Days That Shook the World
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Sunday, 30 June 2019 20:49 (four years ago) link
lmao clemenza <3
― coroner criticises butt (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 13:06 (four years ago) link
Anything nominated (i.e., stated, not posed as a question), I'll add to the list. I'm an easy mark here for joke nominations, especially in the realm of superhero movies--whether it's sincere or a joke will go right over my head.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 13:11 (four years ago) link
I don't often make an effort to catch up with gaps in movie or music polls--pure laziness, plus I'd rather go with opinions that go back more than a week or two--but I'm going to force myself to sit at the computer for 3.5+ hours and watch Frederick Wiseman's State Legislature off Kanopy. It won't be in one sitting, that much I know.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 01:04 (four years ago) link