What are Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's Flaws?

as did we all

It's slightly annoying that AOC lacks an innate sonar for oncoming meme garbage barges.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/jun/29/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-met-greta-thunberg-hope-contagious-climate

pelosi does bad

“A glass of water could’ve [beat a 20-yr incumbt]”
“The Green Dream or whatever”
“Their public whatever”

Those aren’t quotes from me; they‘re from the Speaker. Having respect for ourselves doesn’t mean we lack respect for her.

It means we won’t let everyday people be dismissed. https://t.co/VMRkcd8xlL

— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) July 8, 2019

this is a good tweet

pelosi seems threatened by AOC

the legacy pol's territory has wire fencing

her "They’re four people, and that’s how many votes they got" comment is going to look pretty shortsighted if/when AOC and "the squad", which is apparently what they're called, get more support in the house

"What's Meadows and Mulvaney got, a half-dozen knuckle-draggers?"

wow pelosi is kind of a piece of shit

a very unpopular opinion on this board 4 months ago, will

Pelosi did a lot of good for a lot of people by keeping the democratic party united through some crazy ass times. She’s been one of the most effective speakers (given the crazy ass times) in any of our lifetimes. She’s also showing how out of touch she is with what motivates the next wave of the Democratic Party. Those aren’t incompatible views, I don’t think.

I guess we can all look forward to yasss kweening in hell when trump gets re-elected

"The squad" has four votes, does not have a caucus (like, say, the Congressional Black Caucus), has no seniority, and no committee chairmanships. They currently have very little power in the House. Pelosi is being unnecessarily antagonistic, but she is stating a fact of political power - twitter followers /= votes on the floor. Pelosi commands a majority of those votes, they command four.

Pelosi also knows its useful to have a foil on the left, it allows her to consolidate power in the rest of the caucus

like how do you not know to not antagonize the activist wing who are going to be doing a lot of the heavy lifting getting out the vote in 2020? it’s almost like you prefer to be fundraising off a an unpopular idiot pres/ opposition party for the rest of your days rather than actually governing...

the only other explanation I got is she’s going soft in the head.

we still don't have to like her shakes!

she doesn't care if you like her, she doesn't need the activist wing to like her either - the point at which she needs them to like her is the point at which they command enough votes to scuttle legislation a la the Freedom Caucus in the GOP. They don't have that now, and the next point at which they *may* have that power is not until 2020.

like I said, it's actually to her benefit if the activist wing doesn't like her

idk maybe having a “foil” on the left helps w the caucus (but really?), but if she thinks it’s going to make her party the “sensible moderate alternative” for white Panera moms or even the mainstream media, I think she’s going to be extremely disappointed.

or not, bc again—not convinced she actually gaf about winning anything other than donors

Panera moms!

I hate to invoke it, but as long as the “O window” only moves right (aided and abetted by the Dem leadership), it’s going to this or worse forever.

to be*

I read that as Pantera moms.

lol yes what about the Pantera moms? sure, maybe their exes are mostly alt-right now. but they probably want universal healthcare, living wages and affordable childcare

^^Gun control too, because Dimebag...

I keep having to look up "Overton window." Is this really a thing people say in conversation? It sounds like early 20th century interior design.

It is probably spoken aloud and earnestly in hundreds of dorm rooms across the nation every week.

xp it is this side of the Atlantic! I read/hear that several times a week.

idk maybe having a “foil” on the left helps w the caucus (but really?), but if she thinks it’s going to make her party the “sensible moderate alternative” for white Panera moms or even the mainstream media,

these are not the same thing! maintaining control of the caucus means her ability to corral votes, and from her POV as the Speaker anything that helps her achieve this end is valuable. How it plays outside the chamber is not relevant/doesn't enter the calculus.

lads

Pelosi's primary job is to maintain control of the House, now and in the near future. She has little influence on Senate or presidential elections. She will cater more to members who have successfully held seats for a long time than to new members who have only won one or two elections. She will cater more to members who align with the preponderance of the caucus than those whose support is weak or equivocal. That's the system.

AOC and her cohort have to sow the seeds of their own success by bringing the caucus along to their positions. That's going to take time. Their best argument is to become acknowledged leaders regarding issues popular with voters, not just in their districts, but in the nation at large. They are already launched in that direction. We need to support them vocally to lend them the power they will need to change things.

for someone so talented there *must* be a better way to corral votes/ maintain your caucus than shitting on popular politicians from your party in the press?

unless your intended audience is actually pharma execs.

Her mistake was to go public; this was thoughtless. Otherwise Aimless and Shakey otm.

Her irritation is probably an indication of their challenging her more directly and persistently than she is used to. Their sense of independence and purpose is a problem for her, in that it makes her work harder corralling the fence-sitters who lean left and are getting worked on by the new guard from the other direction than Pelosi is fronting.

They know social media and she doesn't; it's gonna be a generational problem. I want AOC and the other freshman to keep pressing her.

she probably said 900,000 words in that interview about her process before she accurately said "they've four votes" in the context of talking about her process, and may or may not regret the latter being the sole pullquote.

xpost: I want AOC and the other freshman to keep pressing her.

yes, she is openly stating that her role is to represent the votes of her party's House representatives. if those votes change, she will not suddenly stop representing them.

well, yeah

DHS & ICE are flagrantly violating Congressional orders, just as we said they would.

Yet it was @IlhanMN, @AyannaPressley, @RashidaTlaib & I that were wrong to oppose throwing more money to abusive agencies, right? ⬇️ https://t.co/JExRxD1XDS

— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) July 10, 2019

The Remnick interview.

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-gop-challenger-scherie-murray-172333854.html

“She isn’t worried about us — she’s worried about being famous,” Murray wrote when announcing her campaign on Twitter on July 17. “She thinks public service is not about serving the public, but herself. If you think you deserve better, then you’re just like me.”

Um, you know who the President is, right?

I keep having to look up "Overton window." Is this really a thing people say in conversation? It sounds like early 20th century interior design.

― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, July 9, 2019 6:02 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink

one of those terms like cuckold that i saw maybe 5 times my whole life and will now see every day for the rest of it

the overton window has shifted on the term "overton window"

We're through the Overton Window here people

defenestrated, even

feel like I've been seeing that term in online political discussions forever

yeah, the Glenn Beck novel came out in 2010 and him and O'Reilly (iirc) had been using it for a while

As the @dick_nixon Twitter account would say, this is a hell of a thing.

‘I don’t want to hear the question ‘is this president racist?’ anymore. He is.’ — @AOC held nothing back while condemning Trump for using the language of white supremacy pic.twitter.com/3rWCkdYq6n

— NowThis (@nowthisnews) August 6, 2019

Amazing.

rob at 1:14 18 Jul 19

yeah, the Glenn Beck novel came out in 2010 and him and O'Reilly (iirc) had been using it for a while

yeah those are two ppl I avoid like the plague so