Seizing back control: The ILX lol brexit is how we're all gonna die thread.

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Not entirely sure why Comrade Alphabet is posting an Ash Sarkar tweet from a few months ago, but you do you.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 28 June 2019 07:56 (seven years ago)

Actually those opinions are from various ppl no one has any trademark on them. Good on her for holding them.

Even so, it's better than defending MLC and trying to be fair to tweets by Dunty. Certainly wouldn't do you.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 28 June 2019 09:21 (seven years ago)

"The average person listens and says ‘who are these Skripals?’” Putin said. “Treason is the gravest crime possible and traitors must be punished. I am not saying that the Salisbury incident is the way to do it … but traitors must be punished.”

Whatever you (don't) say fuckface

nashwan, Friday, 28 June 2019 09:28 (seven years ago)

little on the nose from the world's most famous supervillain there

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 28 June 2019 09:53 (seven years ago)

the kgb really taught him well in the art of subtlety huh

big beautiful wario (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 28 June 2019 09:55 (seven years ago)

So if it's good on her for holding them, what's your issue with Owen Jones (reluctantly) holding them? Other than bad people holding good opinions is bad?

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 28 June 2019 10:25 (seven years ago)

you gotta know when to hold 'em

know when to scold 'em

big beautiful wario (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 28 June 2019 10:31 (seven years ago)

freshly dead vs recently embalmed

big beautiful wario (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 28 June 2019 10:37 (seven years ago)

not quite sure where to post this but guess it fits into the general trend of european far right renaissance

this seems, uh, not good

Truly shocking revelations from Germany this morning of a far-right cell mostly composed of cops connected to the recent murder of a politician which had used their access to police computers to draw up a death list with 25,000 targets on it & stole 10,000 bullets + machine gun

— Andrew Flood (@andrewflood) June 28, 2019

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what's that phrase about 'all cops are...' again

big beautiful wario (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 28 June 2019 11:05 (seven years ago)

lmao

🖼

GODDAMMIT 2019

breastcrawl, Friday, 28 June 2019 11:15 (seven years ago)

goddammit indeed, needs the picture

breastcrawl, Friday, 28 June 2019 11:16 (seven years ago)

The foreign secretary said if elected he would be the “first prime minister you have had who was an entrepreneur”.

He told the audience: “What do entrepreneurs do? We negotiate. You have to be prepared to walk away if you don’t get the deal you want.

“Secondly you have to figure out what the other guys want to do.”

yes, if only there was some way to have determined what the eu's thoughts are about brexit before 28 june 2019

big beautiful wario (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 28 June 2019 11:25 (seven years ago)

his comment about "French turds" amuses me more for the ambiguity on how to translate the word

Selon le tabloïd, l'ancien chef de la diplomatie a déclaré que les Français se comportaient sur le Brexit comme des « turds » (qu'on peut traduire par « petites crottes », « fumiers » ou « cons »)

than for its content, since everyone already knows what that guy thinks of France

L'assie (Euler), Friday, 28 June 2019 11:30 (seven years ago)

So if it's good on her for holding them, what's your issue with Owen Jones (reluctantly) holding them? Other than bad people holding good opinions is bad?

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Mis-read your post. If she is thinking the same as Owen then that's bad not good. It's just fucking bad full stop.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 28 June 2019 11:32 (seven years ago)

the one bright spot of our forthcoming blond beast premiership is that jeremy cunt will finally be ousted from the cabinet

Mr Johnson also distanced himself from offering a cabinet position to leadership rival Jeremy Hunt if he becomes prime minister.

He said: “I have a very high regard for Jeremy” before being reminded by the host Iain Dale that it traditionally happens.

Mr Johnson added: “I am not making commitments to anybody”.

then, of course, lol we're all gonna die

big beautiful wario (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 28 June 2019 11:35 (seven years ago)

FUUUUUUCK OFFFFFFFFF

When asked whether he would abolish inheritance and capital gains tax, Hunt said: “I would like to reduce lots of taxes.

“Inheritance taxes is one of the most unfair taxes. I said I would have a radical cut to corporation tax to fire up the economy.”

He added that business rates are “absolutely crippling”.

big beautiful wario (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 28 June 2019 11:38 (seven years ago)

not quite sure where to post this but guess it fits into the general trend of european far right renaissance

this seems, uh, not good

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it fits into how northern ireland was run from 1970-94

godfellaz (darraghmac), Friday, 28 June 2019 11:41 (seven years ago)

all cops are british

big beautiful wario (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 28 June 2019 11:42 (seven years ago)

https://mronline.org/2019/06/27/gee-whiz-communism-is-sure-gonna-be-keen/

^ this is an at times hilarious review of the FALC book.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 28 June 2019 13:48 (seven years ago)

"The present distribution of mountains and rivers, of fields, of meadows, of steppes, of forests, and of seashores, cannot be considered final. Man has already made changes in the map of nature that are not few nor insignificant. But they are mere pupils’ practice in comparison with what is coming. Faith merely promises to move mountains; but technology, which takes nothing “on faith”, is actually able to cut down mountains and move them. Up to now this was done for industrial purposes (mines) or for railways (tunnels); in the future this will be done on an immeasurably larger scale, according to a general industrial and artistic plan. Man will occupy himself with re-registering mountains and rivers, and will earnestly and repeatedly make improvements in nature. In the end, he will have rebuilt the earth, if not in his own image, at least according to his own taste. We have not the slightest fear that this taste will be bad… Through the machine, man in Socialist society will command nature in its entirety, with its grouse and its sturgeons. He will point out places for mountains and for passes. He will change the course of the rivers, and he will lay down rules for the oceans. The idealist simpletons may say that this will be a bore, but that is why they are simpletons. Of course this does not mean that the entire globe will be marked off into boxes, that the forests will be turned into parks and gardens. Most likely, thickets and forests and grouse and tigers will remain, but only where man commands them to remain. And man will do it so well that the tiger won’t even notice the machine, or feel the change, but will live as he lived in primeval times. The machine is not in opposition to the earth. The machine is the instrument of modern man in every field of life. The present-day city is transient. But it will not be dissolved back again into the old village. On the contrary, the village will rise in fundamentals to the plane of the city. Here lies the principal task."

mark s, Friday, 28 June 2019 13:57 (seven years ago)

This was my first clue that Bastani’s research is unreliable, because the Horse Manure Crisis is a myth.

only part through it, but what a risible tool! He ends up being an argument for only supporting thoroughly bourgeoisie writers - who actually know wtf they are doing!

calzino, Friday, 28 June 2019 14:01 (seven years ago)

“the majority of people are only able to be politically active for brief periods of time,” so they must depend on populist politicians who will win their votes by promising unlimited luxury for all.

omg!

calzino, Friday, 28 June 2019 14:06 (seven years ago)

this is what true intellectual rigour looks like folks

big beautiful wario (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 28 June 2019 14:08 (seven years ago)

can't wait for endless cargoes of tiberium being delivered by minimum wage belters to a dead planet tho!

calzino, Friday, 28 June 2019 14:13 (seven years ago)

biggest banger of '96

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ap6QaDBZJwM

big beautiful wario (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 28 June 2019 14:17 (seven years ago)

I quite enjoyed the book! It's just nice to read something so positive for a change, even if (especially?) it is a bit silly.

Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Friday, 28 June 2019 14:17 (seven years ago)

In other words, more loopy utopias, please.

Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Friday, 28 June 2019 14:19 (seven years ago)

nowt wrong with playing with train sets and making helicopter noises and all that, but presenting it as thoughtful ideas for humanity's future is a fucking joke!

calzino, Friday, 28 June 2019 14:26 (seven years ago)

Loopy utopias are good in the abstract but i get the sense that FALC + the idea that if you fix capitalism, you fix the environment (the dopey thing being circulated about 100 companies being responsible for 73% of emissions, etc) works only as a release valve for any sense of personal responsibility or impetus to change.

ShariVari, Friday, 28 June 2019 14:26 (seven years ago)

lol the horse manure crisis was not averted by the automobile but by the streetcar

it's not a "myth" to look at current trends and extrapolate to make a point!

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 28 June 2019 14:27 (seven years ago)

but doesn't the reviewer state that there was no "horse manure crisis" ?

calzino, Friday, 28 June 2019 14:31 (seven years ago)

aka the horse manure opportunity

mark s, Friday, 28 June 2019 14:33 (seven years ago)

Mark - the book you quote from is called Literature and Revolution

xyzzzz__, Friday, 28 June 2019 14:34 (seven years ago)

is that from a time when there wasn't toilet roll to publish someone like Batani?

calzino, Friday, 28 June 2019 14:37 (seven years ago)

the future is made up

(i was trying to find the bit where leon is like "ALSO WE WILL CONTROL THE WEATHER" but maybe i dreamed it)

mark s, Friday, 28 June 2019 14:38 (seven years ago)

Mao used to say Nature Is Our Enemy!

calzino, Friday, 28 June 2019 14:39 (seven years ago)

What FALC reminds me of is Geezaesthetics = group of ppl in a pub talking and then years later it's written up.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 28 June 2019 14:44 (seven years ago)

trotsky: dialectical
mao: less so
geezaesthetics = good not bad except for the name

mark s, Friday, 28 June 2019 14:45 (seven years ago)

xps to Tracer

i think i misread your post, apologies.

calzino, Friday, 28 June 2019 14:50 (seven years ago)

the horse manure crisis never went away we just shovelled it onto twitter amirite

mark s, Friday, 28 June 2019 14:58 (seven years ago)

lol!

calzino, Friday, 28 June 2019 15:03 (seven years ago)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48806066

Bizarre at this stage.

Williamson re-suspended pending investigation into Vaz’ concerns about the disciplinary panel he was part of.

ShariVari, Friday, 28 June 2019 17:12 (seven years ago)

Hopefully Vaz will pay for this.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 28 June 2019 17:18 (seven years ago)

I think there is close to zero chance of Vaz paying for anything in the short to medium term and that this is probably a ploy to pin the blame on Elmi, but we shall see.

ShariVari, Friday, 28 June 2019 17:22 (seven years ago)

Lol Vaz doesn't pay for anything. More popular amongst his constituents than ever, got his biggest majority last time around, despite the drugs and the rent boys.

Ned Trifle X, Friday, 28 June 2019 17:28 (seven years ago)

Or, what ShariVari said!

Ned Trifle X, Friday, 28 June 2019 17:28 (seven years ago)

more fun with bastani: https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/artificial-stupidity#!

(i like the cut of paul lafargue's jib)

mark s, Friday, 28 June 2019 17:38 (seven years ago)

The country I call home is dysfunctional. But north of the border, there’s the chance of something better @johnharris1969

I am just hearing that @cineworld cinemas appear to have decided not to show the new Robert the Bruce film.
Cineworld, could you please confirm and explain your reasons for this decision?

— Carol Monaghan MP 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 (@CMonaghanSNP) June 28, 2019

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