Seizing back control: The ILX lol brexit is how we're all gonna die thread.

what does the ilx hivemind think is currently the right way for corbyn to go?

Straight to Chris Williamson's house with a milkshake.

ofc going full remain would have some bad consequences but the current kicking the can down the road interminably is just fucking useless

proclaim himself god-emperor and immerse the nation in the immortal science of juche, obv

You could let the membership decide on how Lab policy might change.

Still think PV is a nightmare because you are working with Lib Dems and a whole bunch of remainer worms. Don't think that is the basis for kicking off anything transformative, but it's whatever the membership feel most comfortable with as they will be knocking on doors. xps

doesn't the labour membership want remain tho? like labour voters certainly voted overwhelmingly for it?

and when are they going to have their say on this? via what mechanism?

conference is end of september, lol

make like 0.46 onwards

is corbyn a marxist?https://t.co/PwoPmsAcl2 pic.twitter.com/Dygm9ZezwK

— acid womble (@acidwomble) February 20, 2019

make like 0.46 onwards

is corbyn a marxist?https://t.co/PwoPmsAcl2 pic.twitter.com/Dygm9ZezwK

— acid womble (@acidwomble) February 20, 2019

(That was meant to be 0.21 but the timestsmp I posted twice is much better)

Timetables will need to change. Parliament will probably need to remain open, instead of being burnt to the ground

I think the shonky electrics and rat faeces are more than balances out by the amount of asbestos and sewage leaks so we probably ok on the that score.

as a very rough as fuck qualified electrician who has never even seen the latest reg book (qualified to 16th edition regs and did some quick course to update it to 17th edition a decade and half ago) I'd fucking love to rewire that old decaying husk of a building. Fuck using cable, wet string and twined coathangers will do the fucking job! RCBOs? no no just a fucking old style cartridge fuse with a clout nail in it!

Not entirely sure why Comrade Alphabet is posting an Ash Sarkar tweet from a few months ago, but you do you.

Actually those opinions are from various ppl no one has any trademark on them. Good on her for holding them.

Even so, it's better than defending MLC and trying to be fair to tweets by Dunty. Certainly wouldn't do you.

"The average person listens and says ‘who are these Skripals?’” Putin said. “Treason is the gravest crime possible and traitors must be punished. I am not saying that the Salisbury incident is the way to do it … but traitors must be punished.”

Whatever you (don't) say fuckface

little on the nose from the world's most famous supervillain there

the kgb really taught him well in the art of subtlety huh

So if it's good on her for holding them, what's your issue with Owen Jones (reluctantly) holding them? Other than bad people holding good opinions is bad?

you gotta know when to hold 'em

know when to scold 'em

lmao

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/38812fd71524401c604c77592a9a1be9dde8cd0b/431_557_3386_2033/master/3386.jpg?width=620&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=e13bf2a7741c116af6a93ebe8b3c7e7b

freshly dead vs recently embalmed

not quite sure where to post this but guess it fits into the general trend of european far right renaissance

this seems, uh, not good

Truly shocking revelations from Germany this morning of a far-right cell mostly composed of cops connected to the recent murder of a politician which had used their access to police computers to draw up a death list with 25,000 targets on it & stole 10,000 bullets + machine gun

— Andrew Flood (@andrewflood) June 28, 2019

what's that phrase about 'all cops are...' again

lmao

🖼

goddammit indeed, needs the picture

The foreign secretary said if elected he would be the “first prime minister you have had who was an entrepreneur”.

He told the audience: “What do entrepreneurs do? We negotiate. You have to be prepared to walk away if you don’t get the deal you want.

“Secondly you have to figure out what the other guys want to do.”

yes, if only there was some way to have determined what the eu's thoughts are about brexit before 28 june 2019

his comment about "French turds" amuses me more for the ambiguity on how to translate the word

Selon le tabloïd, l'ancien chef de la diplomatie a déclaré que les Français se comportaient sur le Brexit comme des « turds » (qu'on peut traduire par « petites crottes », « fumiers » ou « cons »)

than for its content, since everyone already knows what that guy thinks of France

So if it's good on her for holding them, what's your issue with Owen Jones (reluctantly) holding them? Other than bad people holding good opinions is bad?

― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 28 June 2019 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Mis-read your post. If she is thinking the same as Owen then that's bad not good. It's just fucking bad full stop.

the one bright spot of our forthcoming blond beast premiership is that jeremy cunt will finally be ousted from the cabinet

Mr Johnson also distanced himself from offering a cabinet position to leadership rival Jeremy Hunt if he becomes prime minister.

He said: “I have a very high regard for Jeremy” before being reminded by the host Iain Dale that it traditionally happens.

Mr Johnson added: “I am not making commitments to anybody”.

then, of course, lol we're all gonna die

FUUUUUUCK OFFFFFFFFF

When asked whether he would abolish inheritance and capital gains tax, Hunt said: “I would like to reduce lots of taxes.

“Inheritance taxes is one of the most unfair taxes. I said I would have a radical cut to corporation tax to fire up the economy.”

He added that business rates are “absolutely crippling”.

not quite sure where to post this but guess it fits into the general trend of european far right renaissance

this seems, uh, not good

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it fits into how northern ireland was run from 1970-94

all cops are british

https://mronline.org/2019/06/27/gee-whiz-communism-is-sure-gonna-be-keen/

^ this is an at times hilarious review of the FALC book.

"The present distribution of mountains and rivers, of fields, of meadows, of steppes, of forests, and of seashores, cannot be considered final. Man has already made changes in the map of nature that are not few nor insignificant. But they are mere pupils’ practice in comparison with what is coming. Faith merely promises to move mountains; but technology, which takes nothing “on faith”, is actually able to cut down mountains and move them. Up to now this was done for industrial purposes (mines) or for railways (tunnels); in the future this will be done on an immeasurably larger scale, according to a general industrial and artistic plan. Man will occupy himself with re-registering mountains and rivers, and will earnestly and repeatedly make improvements in nature. In the end, he will have rebuilt the earth, if not in his own image, at least according to his own taste. We have not the slightest fear that this taste will be bad… Through the machine, man in Socialist society will command nature in its entirety, with its grouse and its sturgeons. He will point out places for mountains and for passes. He will change the course of the rivers, and he will lay down rules for the oceans. The idealist simpletons may say that this will be a bore, but that is why they are simpletons. Of course this does not mean that the entire globe will be marked off into boxes, that the forests will be turned into parks and gardens. Most likely, thickets and forests and grouse and tigers will remain, but only where man commands them to remain. And man will do it so well that the tiger won’t even notice the machine, or feel the change, but will live as he lived in primeval times. The machine is not in opposition to the earth. The machine is the instrument of modern man in every field of life. The present-day city is transient. But it will not be dissolved back again into the old village. On the contrary, the village will rise in fundamentals to the plane of the city. Here lies the principal task."

This was my first clue that Bastani’s research is unreliable, because the Horse Manure Crisis is a myth.

only part through it, but what a risible tool! He ends up being an argument for only supporting thoroughly bourgeoisie writers - who actually know wtf they are doing!

“the majority of people are only able to be politically active for brief periods of time,” so they must depend on populist politicians who will win their votes by promising unlimited luxury for all.

omg!

this is what true intellectual rigour looks like folks

can't wait for endless cargoes of tiberium being delivered by minimum wage belters to a dead planet tho!

biggest banger of '96

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ap6QaDBZJwM

I quite enjoyed the book! It's just nice to read something so positive for a change, even if (especially?) it is a bit silly.

In other words, more loopy utopias, please.

nowt wrong with playing with train sets and making helicopter noises and all that, but presenting it as thoughtful ideas for humanity's future is a fucking joke!

Loopy utopias are good in the abstract but i get the sense that FALC + the idea that if you fix capitalism, you fix the environment (the dopey thing being circulated about 100 companies being responsible for 73% of emissions, etc) works only as a release valve for any sense of personal responsibility or impetus to change.

lol the horse manure crisis was not averted by the automobile but by the streetcar

it's not a "myth" to look at current trends and extrapolate to make a point!

but doesn't the reviewer state that there was no "horse manure crisis" ?

aka the horse manure opportunity

Mark - the book you quote from is called Literature and Revolution

is that from a time when there wasn't toilet roll to publish someone like Batani?

the future is made up

(i was trying to find the bit where leon is like "ALSO WE WILL CONTROL THE WEATHER" but maybe i dreamed it)