too effing hot

Congrats on the pound lossage!

I do have to mention, as the King of Bones, I still got hot af sometimes. Last night was a sweaty mess

French people have thoughts about air conditioning

We've talked about Italians and their cold neck thing before ("colpa d'ari"). French people are not so far off. AC is obviously a bad thing for the environment, and people shouldn't live places where it's so hot that you want (~~~need~~~) it, or drive cars at speeds where it's needed. American life is fucked up. But as a (recovering) American, I found the article I linked hilarious. Here's the quote that made me lol the most:

"Ideally [to avoid thermal shock], it is necessary to keep a difference of 8°C between the exterior temperature and the temperature inside where you are. Thus, if it is 40°C (104F) outside, think to keep your air conditioning no lower than 32°C (90F)." I cannot imagine keeping the AC at 90F.

One way to cope with heat: lose a shitload of weight. I lost 75 pounds and found myself curled up on the couch in 84 degree heat with just a fan on + blanket. I've definitely noticed the difference in heat tolerance since I've gotten bonier.

― War in I Rock (I M Losted), Wednesday, June 26, 2019

oh wow -- thanks! I've noticed in the last year that exposure to powerful central A/C will affect me in ways it didn't used to in tropical Miami; at work it feels so damn cold that my fingertips go numb.

so my fuckface landlord will not replace my 30-40-yo AC for free. A room AC on the floor? Cheap?

I notice a huge difference in how well I deal with temperatures based on 25lbs up or down.

In an empty office we always talk about how you can always tell where the women sit because they have blankets, shawls, sweaters over the backs of their chairs. So cold.

Besides, you're fucking crazy if you think anyone can survive 35+ degree (C) temperatures without air conditioning.

This is confusing surviving with living perfectly comfortably 24/7/365. People lived in hot climates for thousands of years before AC...it's just a silly thing to say people can't survive in that heat w/o it.

I always think that if there is another civil war in the US, a lot of the white supremacists will be flushed out early if you just take away their ac.

We've talked about Italians and their cold neck thing before ("colpa d'ari"). French people are not so far off.

Never forget this classic French video from 1975, which recommends drinking 1.5 litres of beer a day to fend off the dog days:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzYGqsxW3qM

Bit cool here today but the effing heat will return at the weekend and I will be loving it

haha pomenitul that video is classe

morbs, is the ac unit a window unit that he won't replace?

I always think that if there is another civil war in the US, a lot of the white supremacists will be flushed out early if you just take away their ac.

I mean, you thought they couldn't win a war the last time it happened.

that is correct, Yerac. The super asked me if I had one to replace it, and no I don't.

Ugh, I feel like the floor units are either crappy or super expensive. I was just looking up nyc laws about landlords and ac. I know they don't have to provide it, but it's unclear what to do if they were already providing it.

Besides, you're fucking crazy if you think anyone can survive 35+ degree (C) temperatures without air conditioning.

This is confusing surviving with living perfectly comfortably 24/7/365. People lived in hot climates for thousands of years before AC...it's just a silly thing to say people can't survive in that heat w/o it.

― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, June 26, 2019 8:21 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark

i have spent many an uncomfortable night in spain and chile in > 30c temperature with no air con

Likewise in Romania...

Yerac:

https://www1.nyc.gov/nyc-resources/faq/490/is-a-landlord-required-to-provide-air-conditioning

so i got nothin

here is the official French advice on staying cool. AC not part of the picture obv

- close your shutters during the day (duh)
- use a fan
- keep your body wet (not sure about the practicality of this one tbh)

[#Canicule] Des risques existent pour votre santé, adoptez les bons réflexes.

🔎 Consultez nos conseils et informations sur : https://t.co/qAfiTZAr3J pic.twitter.com/nQdIrp0ntC

— Ministère des Solidarités et de la Santé (@MinSoliSante) June 24, 2019

stay moist at at all times, french officials advise

Moite (pronounced mwat) af.

lol

tomorrow is the pride parade in paris, my daughter & her gf will be very moist indeed in the predicted 37C weather

44C in Nimes:O

& 45C in Villevieille

always évitering les efforts physiques

story of my life

I've managed to cut my hedges whilst barely breaking sweat. It's 20C here, 60% humidity and with a cool breeze, there isn't really going to be a heatwave here other than it might hit 30C on saturday. It pisses me off tbh, because all the nice places I go to gtf away from humanity is full of fucking ppl when it is warm - even just moderately warm is good enough for these fairweather arseholes. Who don't seem to give a shit about appreciating nature when it is pissing it down or cold!

ne pas boire d'alcool? fuck up

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2019/06/28/europes-record-heatwave-is-changing-stubborn-minds-about-value-air-conditioning/

oh good

exactly the right response ⚆ _ ⚆

A whole continent driven to accelerationism by excess warmth

More like ACelerationalism innit?

👍

could make Europe’s debate over the need for better cooling even more heated

https://media.giphy.com/media/l378o7dYnoHlgH4ha/source.gif

Glad to see so many of y'all are ok with tens of thousands of people dying every year because of excessive heat (and the number's only going to get worse with each passing year). Also, just because your body's capable of handling excessive heat (and 35C IS excessive) doesn't mean everyone's is, and the elderly, children, and those in compromised health are the most vulnerable from the heat. But I guess fuck them all because you have such a fucking hard-on for being primitive jackasses, fucking hell.

This is confusing surviving with living perfectly comfortably 24/7/365. People lived in hot climates for thousands of years before AC...it's just a silly thing to say people can't survive in that heat w/o it.

This is completely ignorant of (a.)the history of human development and (b.) the way climate has changed over time. Also, AC has helped reduced the death rate in many places.

I always think that if there is another civil war in the US, a lot of the white supremacists will be flushed out early if you just take away their ac.

The fact that you think all people living in hot climates = "white supremacists" shows just how INCREDIBLY ignorant and hateful YOU are. I cannot believe you would even think something so fucking inane.

Also, I feel like you all need to watch this latest List25 video because some points in it are SUPER appropriate:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL3nOHOPcCw

it's true that only since the advent of AC have entire regions of countries been filled with buildings that simply aren't workable without it. office doors used to have transoms on them. they don't anymore. "shutters" existed. indoor shopping malls didn't. etc.

it won't be simple or quick to replace or modify all these buildings so that they can work without AC. but it has to be a goal surely? (meanwhile dee can you dial it back a little? lordy)

I wasted approximately 3 minutes on my life on that vid then gave up. That was some lazy pseudo intellectual apologia for cherry picked but still legitimate criticisms of America from what I saw. "America spies on you? No, YOU spy on you!" And so on...

Whoops, was reading the thread from the bottom up. BIG mistake. Primitive jackasses.

It's true that American AC use is excessive but compared to most of Asia it's moderate in terms of extent and magnitude (ie how cold inside). In Shanghai it was maybe 35 degrees out, and I was walking on a big shopping arcade there, the shops had their doors wide open and AC blasting to the extent you could feel the cool air outside five-ten meters away from the doorway.

I've also noticed that the hotter the climate on average, the colder people seem to like their AC. Buses in the tropics always feel like refrigerators for some reason.

Of course getting back to America, the real waste compared to Europe/Asia is how spacious our homes are. McMansions contain a big volume of air to keep cool.

a lot of mcmansions still have these vestigial shutters that are either nonfunctional or fixed in an open position, essentially decorative trim. my dream is that one day houses will have decorative AC units sticking out of windows, no machinery inside, but there because the building facade doesn't look right without them

love that

The current flat I've lived in for six months in has AC. It's the first place I have lived that has AC in 49 years in Australia. I've lived in Sydney and Newcastle without - both places go up to 100F in the summer, usually with high humidity. I have also dried my laundry on an outdoor line my entire life - use a clothes dryer maybe a dozen times each winter. It's actually not hard at all - although I agree that older and unwell people absolutely need cooling in summer. I just think way too many people get used to being able to specify temperature to the degree and don't give a shit about the energy use.

Spending some time/money to upgrade insulation and energy efficiency makes a huge difference in terms of A/C/heat use. The power companies used to (still?) even offer their consultation services for free, or for a modest fee, incl. free upgrades to LED bulbs etc. and tests to determine and fix airflow for better efficiency. Our old house was an old house, with all the cracks and drafts and whatnot, but making the changes recommended (which followed a test where they sealed up the house, ran a giant fan and so on to gather information) made a noticeable difference in heating/cooling and power consumption (and costs). Our new home is a, well, new home, and the materials, insulation and so on are so good and so efficient our heating and cooling needs have dropped considerably, since the house better retains so much more of the heat/cool we run.

As a resident of a state which wouldn't exist in its modern form without A/C and won't exist in forty years because of dwindling resources/political capital to mitigate the impact of sea level rise, I've become wary of the thing. I set my thermostat at 79, which drives visitors bonkers (I adjust for their comfort). I'm used to visiting homes whose owners set it at 68 to go to bed -- to me an act of madness. On the other hand I've got older friends who've never had central A/C in their lives and whose home doesn't feel warmer than the 68-degree ones, so perception matters.

I have noticed that I'm more sensitive to cooler A/C after losing weight in the last two years.

What a weekend for my car ac compressor to stop working

Yeah, my building is only three years old, and is built to very high energy standards (despite, or maybe because of, being public housing). The walls and windows are thick and multilayered, and there's grass and solar panels on the roof (all new French buildings must have one or the other). We kept the windows & blinds (we don't have shutters) closed all week, didn't cook, and line dried the clothes. Despite it being 33C+ & sunny every day this week (& add the heat sink effect of the dense city around us), the temp inside our flat maxed at 26. That's not ideal, but it poses no danger to human life.

As I type I sit at my dining table with every blind closed. I feel like a character in The Hissing of Summer Lawns.

It's better than being under that summer lawn.