Seizing back control: The ILX lol brexit is how we're all gonna die thread.

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big hitter vs mcshitter pic.twitter.com/pgIodRkQIO

— joe (@cillanoir) June 25, 2019

calzino, Tuesday, 25 June 2019 14:08 (seven years ago)

yes the old tory institutions ran on scary rural tory ladies but the supply has been dwindling for many years (their granddaughters are now all pop stars)

mark s, Tuesday, 25 June 2019 14:30 (seven years ago)

her father, Sir Charles William Somerset Marling, the 5th Marling Baronet, ran a recording studio, introduced her to folk music and shaped her musical taste, an experience that Marling later described as, "a bit of a blessing and a bit of a curse. ...

it can be a curse having everything handed to you in some senses ... but extremely low sympathy rating for that curse!

calzino, Tuesday, 25 June 2019 14:38 (seven years ago)

tear her for her bad verses

mark s, Tuesday, 25 June 2019 14:49 (seven years ago)

I refuse to listen her after Marcello dismissed her as a "tory twat"!

calzino, Tuesday, 25 June 2019 14:50 (seven years ago)

but hypocritically I listen to many fascists from history still .. but I'm probably probably bad.

calzino, Tuesday, 25 June 2019 14:53 (seven years ago)

at typing for a start!

calzino, Tuesday, 25 June 2019 14:53 (seven years ago)

but my hatred for tories was so glowing white at the time she emerged .. I refuse to listen to her.

calzino, Tuesday, 25 June 2019 14:54 (seven years ago)

boy's clubs, you simply love to see them!

Asked by one member what he would do with the NHS, Johnson told the crowd it was a “crowning glory” of the UK but was “not getting the kind of support and indeed the kind of changes and management that it needs”, suggesting he as prime minister would aim to undertake an overhaul of the health service.
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He said Simon Stevens, the NHS chief executive, had once helped him get elected president of the Oxford Union as a student, and together they would “sort things out”.

In remarks that may alarm those opposed to another reorganisation of the NHS, Johnson said: “It needs more money but where you are absolutely right is that it needs reform.”

big beautiful wario (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 25 June 2019 15:02 (seven years ago)

woke matt* welcome to the #resistance

pic.twitter.com/fVN99w2nM3

— Matt Cartoons (@MattCartoonist) June 25, 2019

*(every-face-a-willy matt is already in the #resistance)

mark s, Tuesday, 25 June 2019 18:24 (seven years ago)

where you are absolutely right is that it needs reform

People seem to be absolutely blind to the fact that every huge organization that employs tens of thousands of people, but most particularly those huge organizations which purely deliver services, will be riddled with human inefficiencies and wasted effort. It is inescapable.

When those organizations are for-profit, the fact they generate big profits absolves them of criticism. They create jobs! They make money for everyone involved! How can you hate that? But when those organizations are funded from tax revenue every mistake and inefficiency is viewed with horror, even if the service is delivered more efficiently and cheaply than if it were delivered by a private corporation.

In the future feel free to refer to this as Aimless' Law.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 25 June 2019 18:44 (seven years ago)

boris dngaf about ‘reform’, he wants to privatise

big beautiful wario (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 25 June 2019 18:47 (seven years ago)

i get the sense he absolutely dngaf about anything really, other than power and being liked in the moment.

he simply doesn’t care what happens to the NHS and says the easiest words at any given time in front of any given audience.

Fizzles, Tuesday, 25 June 2019 18:53 (seven years ago)

Also public service creates better jobs (by median not mean) than private!

If inefficiency is "you got this medicine two days later and you died", then it's obviously bad, but if it's "we could get an overstressed graduate to do both these jobs at once", I'm happy to wave the flag of inefficiency.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 25 June 2019 18:53 (seven years ago)

You damn betcha he wants to privatize NHS. Hand it over to the job creators who will bring efficiency to the organization! Mainly by cutting salaries and withholding services, so as to divert more funds to pay shareholders and the executive officers.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 25 June 2019 18:53 (seven years ago)

This is exctremely late pls forgive but I’m dying @ Hedges & White interacting:

In the past week I have never been more ashamed to be a journalist. We are so much better than this.

It's the general public we should be attacking, not each other. https://t.co/xmAvpa1yFQ

— Simon Hedges (@Orwell_Fan) June 23, 2019



Sorry, but that’s a bit deep for me

— MichaelWhite (@michaelwhite) June 23, 2019

govussy blues (gyac), Tuesday, 25 June 2019 22:03 (seven years ago)

lmao

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 25 June 2019 22:05 (seven years ago)

lol, that was a good one!

calzino, Tuesday, 25 June 2019 22:12 (seven years ago)

Hope they sue the Mail

am told that the neighbours who reported the Symonds-Johnson row to the police have since moved out of their flat - and are seeking security advice - after a series of grim threats

— Jim Pickard (@PickardJE) June 26, 2019

govussy blues (gyac), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 13:11 (seven years ago)

Meanwhile

Ed Davey rules out letting Jeremy Corbyn become PM to force another referendum.

“I don’t want to see Jeremy Corbyn as prime minister under any circumstances”

— Nick Eardley (@nickeardleybbc) June 26, 2019

govussy blues (gyac), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 13:17 (seven years ago)

there was a stat floating about on twitter that Davey & Swinson have voted along with the Tory whips more times than Gove and Hunt

ogmor, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 13:19 (seven years ago)

'if the country must be destroyed, let it be us what does it'

big beautiful wario (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 13:19 (seven years ago)

More fuel to my "libs will have done no deal" story, love to see it

Rory end to the lowenbrow (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 13:30 (seven years ago)

the "nicer" tory arseholes are certainly letting a few ropy youGov polls go to their heads a bit, and it's long been established some of these wags do like to use their polls to tell a story or two. Libdems are trailing the main parties by 8-10 pts with other pollsters. And let's not forget the art of polling is often basically talking to sample sizes of 1200-1600 people ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

calzino, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 13:34 (seven years ago)

love to see them annihilated again. I'm getting sick of seeing all this lol Cable Surge stuff, fucking loathsome bunch of politicians and voters.

calzino, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 13:42 (seven years ago)

Swinson is a horror, poor auld Cherlie must be birlin' in his grave, ayyyyyyyyye.

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 14:08 (seven years ago)

I hope the poor old lad has got a bottle in there for when he's finished birlin'! I wasn't always a fan tbh but fucking hell, compared to the smug, evil, tory-wanker LibDem players of the last decade, he was someone with principles at least.

https://britainelects.com/polling/westminster/

this tracking poll shows that YouGov are the outliers in telling their story about the LibDem surge. One of their co-founders is slippery Tory mp who is a renowned regular bullshit merchant on QT.

calzino, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 14:39 (seven years ago)

it's always quite heartwarming to see chUK often polling at 0%.

calzino, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 14:44 (seven years ago)

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/884/521/353.gif

big beautiful wario (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 14:48 (seven years ago)

breaking news: it has been confirmed that at least 1600 people are not interested in a new way of doing politics according to one leading pollster.

calzino, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 14:51 (seven years ago)

that "The Politics Of A Cheeky Nando's" article in Esquire might as well have been a decade ago!

calzino, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 14:56 (seven years ago)

labour staff otm

During a post pmqs grilling of labour spokesperson by the lobby, one Labour staff member turns to another and says “this is so boring” as we try to nail down Corbyn’s Brexit position.

— Owen Bennett (@owenjbennett) June 26, 2019

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gapes of rump: the night king no longer fucks

mark s, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 15:26 (seven years ago)

xp Might be a good line for labour to counterattack with, certainly hella relatable

Bash Street Kids: Endgame (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 15:32 (seven years ago)

it's always quite heartwarming to see chUK often polling at 0%.

You do, indeed, love to see it. Probably as much as I laughed seeing this

I wouldn't be a superstitious person but yeah they totally pissed off some pagan gods or something. pic.twitter.com/MX6frlqHeo

— Áine McDee (@AineMcD) June 26, 2019


(It was the fairies)

govussy blues (gyac), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 15:32 (seven years ago)

Oh ffs!

calzino, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 16:26 (seven years ago)


PoliticsHome understands that Keith Vaz led the moves to reject a recommendation from Labour staff that Mr Williamson be referred to the party's National Constitution Committee, which deals with serious disciplinary cases.

He argued that because Mr Williamson represents a marginal seat and that Labour MPs have less than two weeks to tell party bosses whether they wish to stand at the next election, he should be let off with a warning.

Keith Vaz?!? Another guy who shouldn’t have the whip ffs

govussy blues (gyac), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 16:27 (seven years ago)

I’m not sure that’s as much of a surprise as people are making it own to be. Williamson is an idiot and liability but I’m not sure there has ever been one thing major enough to kick him out of the party over. It had always been an accumulation of small stuff and idk how easily disciplinary processes are ever geared up to deal with that.

ShariVari, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 16:30 (seven years ago)

Though obviously Vaz’ rationale is pathetic.

ShariVari, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 16:31 (seven years ago)

The pattern though?

govussy blues (gyac), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 16:32 (seven years ago)

There was a very good thread on twitter detailing how bad disciplinary processes are in Labour. It's not a massive surprise, merely an expression of frustration.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 16:39 (seven years ago)

It ought to be remembered (it won't be remembered) that those disciplinary procedures have always been rubbish and have afforded protection to melts and creeps from all wings of the party no matter who was leader.

Rory end to the lowenbrow (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 16:43 (seven years ago)

The optics problem here is that "our hands are tied" for this and David Prescott and Peter Willsman contrasts with chucking out Alistair Campbell the next day.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 16:51 (seven years ago)

It is a problem but you can’t run a disciplinary system based on optics.

ShariVari, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 16:53 (seven years ago)

Don't give one fuck about Campbell's optics, the procedures should definitely be strengthened but that should include quicker eviction of Tories that wandered in by mistake.

Rory end to the lowenbrow (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 16:53 (seven years ago)

Reckon Campbell will be admitted back. Shit, the guy walks free among us. That's bad enough.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 16:55 (seven years ago)

I would imagine Campbell will get back, yes. My broad point was about parties as bureacratic resisters of change, the problem isn't that the nasty Trots are trying to change things, the problem is it isn't getting changed far or fast enough.

Rory end to the lowenbrow (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:19 (seven years ago)

It is a problem but you can’t run a disciplinary system based on optics.

You can run it without electoralism playing any part whatsoever in disciplinary cases. How does Keith Vas’s opinion carry more sway than that of party staff? Since when is he a moral authority on anything anyway?

govussy blues (gyac), Wednesday, 26 June 2019 17:20 (seven years ago)

ya fuck that decision

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