The car's on fire and there's no driver at the wheel - The Tory leadership elections

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I can think of many words to describe how bad Trump is, 'embarrassing' doesn't even get a seat at the top table

anvil, Saturday, 22 June 2019 11:40 (four years ago) link

Probably true but I did also suggest along with others Johnson's tendencies could tip him further to the right some days (if also further to the centre on others). He'll surely be less consistent than May or Cameron, more chaotic in more ways and generally akin to Trump in this respect while the media continue to take more interest in his private/personal life antics than pressure him on whatever he claims he will do or has done

Sure, but Boris isn't going to be President, if we're going to talk about whatever he claims he will do or has done, are we talking about things he is going to all by himself? Or through parliament?

anvil, Saturday, 22 June 2019 11:42 (four years ago) link

I give up.

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Saturday, 22 June 2019 11:43 (four years ago) link

everyone will be embarrassed bcz i called it wrong and that shames us all (tom hates to see it)

mark s, Saturday, 22 June 2019 11:45 (four years ago) link

absolutely unstartled by allison pearson btw, who has been a menace for years

(recalling her spitting rage on the late show at a v early adam curtis thing, which dared to poke fun at churchill and thatcher, and the only-nazis-are-monsters read obn WW2)

mark s, Saturday, 22 June 2019 11:51 (four years ago) link

deranged lilico fanfic

I haven't heard the tape, & know nothing not public, but here's what the reports I've read suggest was the rough sequence of events.+

— Andrew Lilico (@andrew_lilico) June 22, 2019

devvvine, Saturday, 22 June 2019 12:12 (four years ago) link

The king of the ratio

govussy blues (gyac), Saturday, 22 June 2019 12:22 (four years ago) link

Imagine lolico as Columbo, listening to those tapes for hours going "what is it that I can't hear?"

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 22 June 2019 12:28 (four years ago) link

What is Lolico's day job, apart from making Toby Young look perceptive and thoughtful?

calzino, Saturday, 22 June 2019 12:33 (four years ago) link

Boris is on the sofa on his laptop, presumably reading Tory election news.

devvvine, Saturday, 22 June 2019 12:34 (four years ago) link

At 10.15pm, Boris Johnson was sitting on the sofa on his laptop, reading a spot of Tory election news...

Matt DC, Saturday, 22 June 2019 12:37 (four years ago) link

Scenario calls for Lanchester tbh.

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Saturday, 22 June 2019 12:41 (four years ago) link

This whole incident is gonna be sensitively dramatised in a 2-part drama sooner than later isn’t it

shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Saturday, 22 June 2019 12:45 (four years ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/22/boris-johnson-neighbour-interview-call-police

A follow up with the neighbours.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 22 June 2019 14:00 (four years ago) link

If the guy I saw interviewed earlier on Sky was the neighbour then they're Muslims - which should provoke some interesting responses from Boris supporters.

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Saturday, 22 June 2019 14:09 (four years ago) link

... I should say he was of South Asian appearance with a name which would normally indicate a Muslim background.

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Saturday, 22 June 2019 14:11 (four years ago) link

pic.twitter.com/an4gd5X6dP

— Matt Cartoons (@MattCartoonist) June 22, 2019

calzino, Saturday, 22 June 2019 14:47 (four years ago) link

That’s it then. Johnson is finished

shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Saturday, 22 June 2019 14:49 (four years ago) link

it's not ok to mock me, just bcz he's reached the highest office of the land doesn't mean he's not also over

mark s, Saturday, 22 June 2019 14:56 (four years ago) link

Wasn’t mocking you so much as acknowledging kingmaker Matt

shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Saturday, 22 June 2019 15:00 (four years ago) link

It is ok to mock you tho

shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Saturday, 22 June 2019 15:05 (four years ago) link

was listening to someone on R4 talking about old Oxford and Empire customs and he framed the contest as head boy vs the bounder, and said in days past someone like Cunt would have been a colonial governor. I'm turning the radio off and going swimming, had enough of this depressing shitshow already!

calzino, Saturday, 22 June 2019 16:48 (four years ago) link

I think you need to google "How Oxford university shaped Brexit — and Britain’s next prime minister" and click on the FT link for that.

calzino, Saturday, 22 June 2019 17:48 (four years ago) link

That’s the direct copy from going to Google :-))

suzy, Saturday, 22 June 2019 17:49 (four years ago) link

infuriatingly they've found some way of preventing the links working, unless you google them yourself.. the fuckers!

calzino, Saturday, 22 June 2019 17:51 (four years ago) link

Also infuriating: NS and NYT now do ‘you’re in PRIVATE MODE’ if you’re trying to read over your allocation in the dark browser.

suzy, Saturday, 22 June 2019 17:55 (four years ago) link

Gove, who wore a kilt in debates, was such a gifted speaker that he could even make a compelling case to a student audience against free choice in sexual behaviour. He was unusually ideological by Union standards, a Thatcherite meritocrat. As Union president in 1988, he wrote a paean to elitism in the Union’s house magazine: “I cannot overemphasise what elitism is not. It is not about back-slapping cliques, reactionary chic or Old Etonian egos. It is a spirit of unashamed glamour, excitement and competition . . . We are all here, part of an elite. It is our duty to bear that in mind.”

time to start talking about gulags again.. real gulags.

calzino, Saturday, 22 June 2019 17:58 (four years ago) link

Just another Saturday night then

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 22 June 2019 18:12 (four years ago) link

ffs @ these Boris stans all over the media. Tim Montgomerie repeatedly telling us to forget about the police being called because no action was taken and both parties were safe and well, like anyone gives a fuck whether Boris was safe, unless he was the one screaming and shouting, "Get off me!"

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Saturday, 22 June 2019 19:18 (four years ago) link

Also infuriating: NS and NYT now do ‘you’re in PRIVATE MODE’ if you’re trying to read over your allocation in the dark browser.

The iphone/iPad safari reading mode trick still works, fwiw

govussy blues (gyac), Saturday, 22 June 2019 19:56 (four years ago) link

i've been known to view source, save as a local file and edit out the overlay code

/clearly insane

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 22 June 2019 19:58 (four years ago) link

Also re FT piece:

The @FT is pretty stingy on letting you read behind the firewall, so only three of you will be able to successfully hit this link to the single best explainer of Brexit and Boris Johnson -- Oxford culture & how the ruling class is groomed there. https://t.co/rhTxQxP6X3

— Quentin Hardy (@qhardy) June 22, 2019

this works if you click through from twitter app (I didn’t open in safari)

govussy blues (gyac), Saturday, 22 June 2019 19:58 (four years ago) link

That's an excellent piece - I hadn't quite made the connection between growing up in an antiquated fantasy world, the will to power as birthright for power's sake, and the refusal to share that power with anyone least of all Brussels.

Or at least I had but I hadn't quite appreciated how ingrained it was and how far back the roots of Brexit stretched. It does explain why they've been so inadequate in delivering it though.

Matt DC, Saturday, 22 June 2019 20:50 (four years ago) link

When did you become this person, Allison? Because you seemed relatively sane when you were a subeditor back in the day. Now you appear willing to say anything to defend a crass, racist, chaotic, shambling, lying, carnival huckster. Does the notion of PM Johnson really thrill you?

— Jay Rayner (@jayrayner1) June 22, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 22 June 2019 20:53 (four years ago) link

Obviously Jay Rayner hasn't been reading any of her columns over the last 10 years or more.

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Saturday, 22 June 2019 20:59 (four years ago) link

I am a bit interested in her, in that I never picked up her being so full of bile and froth when she was reviewing things on TV. I don't know if I was just a poor judge of character or if she's been somehow radicalised since then.

Alba, Saturday, 22 June 2019 21:11 (four years ago) link

That was a long time ago she was on TV reviewing things.

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Saturday, 22 June 2019 21:19 (four years ago) link

also she was bad

mark s, Saturday, 22 June 2019 21:24 (four years ago) link

Awful but my friend David fancied her like mad.

Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Saturday, 22 June 2019 21:29 (four years ago) link

I had no idea jay rayner and claire rayner were related

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Sunday, 23 June 2019 02:07 (four years ago) link

if this week has taught us anything it’s that the discourse can always get worse

Exposed.. “the neighbours from hell” pic.twitter.com/3T19KaKlhH

— MoS_Politics (@MoS_Politics) June 22, 2019

||||||||, Sunday, 23 June 2019 04:34 (four years ago) link

between the monstering of aman and the remain neighbours, it’s not worrying at all that our nation’s respected journalists have chosen “know your place serfs” as their guiding philosophy over “holding the powerful to account”

||||||||, Sunday, 23 June 2019 04:37 (four years ago) link

Ah, I see Carrie Symonds’ ex Harry Cole is one of the four dickheads with a byline on that story.

suzy, Sunday, 23 June 2019 05:30 (four years ago) link

In retrospect, things haven't turned out well for the four core regulars of the Late Show. Mark Lawson got sacked for bullying, Allison Pearson became the new Melanie Phillips, and Tony Parsons became Tony Parsons. Only Tom Paulin seems to have emerged untainted, though I suppose he did have that indiepop band named after him.

Alba, Sunday, 23 June 2019 06:15 (four years ago) link

xxp otfm. Like there’s a photo of the house, map of the inside, rabble-rousing language about the couple - it’s fucking disgusting.

xp yeah it’s extremely odd that he’s still enthusiastically pushing Boris like his life depends on it lol

govussy blues (gyac), Sunday, 23 June 2019 07:10 (four years ago) link

xp
amazing that Pearson wasn't the worse thing about the Late Show in my memory. Lawson always did seem like a complete scummy piece of shit, and he's a Leeds Utd fan. Parsons doing his strained attempt at being thoughtful and middle-brow was so painful - you could hear the cogs grinding and clicking.

calzino, Sunday, 23 June 2019 07:13 (four years ago) link

Minor public schoolboy bullshit, I reckon.

suzy, Sunday, 23 June 2019 07:23 (four years ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/22/boris-johnson-steve-bannon-texts-foreign-secretary-resignation-speech

"For the ‘One Nation’ Tories who have backed Johnson, the video may make uncomfortable viewing."

One nation tories my arse, ooh how uncomfortable it makes us that our right wing headcase takes counsel from the klan-man.

calzino, Sunday, 23 June 2019 07:50 (four years ago) link


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