no, i didn't know that the June 2019 US Politics thread was nasty

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xp joe rogan?

Sic what are you posting?

Trumpism is a logical extension of the energy by Tea Partiers, which itself was an extension of Newt's Contract with America, which itself was an extension of Massive Resistance, which was an extension of Jim Crow, and so on.

Right-wing antigovernment demagoguery is like a cake pan into which successive generations pour their white male grievance politics.

energy OF

They love government when it's bolstering white supremacy though.

Trumpism is a logical extension of the energy by Tea Partiers, which itself was an extension of Newt's Contract with America, which itself was an extension of Massive Resistance, which was an extension of Jim Crow, and so on.

Right-wing antigovernment demagoguery is like a cake pan into which successive generations pour their white male grievance politics.

― Velcromancer (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, June 21, 2019 3:50 PM

true, and I like your description, but the chaos, extreme recklessness, incitement of hate, breaking with all norms, and blatant venality and corruption with Trump bothers me more than anything that came before

I realize those are components of some of the previous conservative movements, but just not all together to this extent

the sad truth is donald fucking trump will never be out of our lives until he is dead. president or not, this dumb motherfucker is going to have something to say on any and every news worthy item that occurs until the day he ends up dead on a toilet and the media will cover it.

hell, we're still dealing with Reagan!

anyway, it's time for the Dems to ride toward the sound of the guns, as Pareene sez

ie banish Mayor Mushmouth Booty and his ilk

I just want to point out that for many non-white people, what you are calling “Trumpism” has been a Thing in this country for centuries

would be great to figure out how to get rid of it

I think when white ppl get to around 20% of the pop., it might do it

sic shames people who share links without analytics tracking tags removed, not sure why he polices it so much

morbs otm

really happy to see DJP's posts again

I just want to point out that for many non-white people, what you are calling “Trumpism” has been a Thing in this country for centuries

― brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, June 21, 2019

As a non-white person myself, I have to keep reminding people that shit don't change.

not sure why he

I find it genuinely bemusing that people deliberately choose to do this

US Politics May 2019: " If I was burned at the stake, I would ask for a mirror"

note that it took less than two weeks after said election for the government to raid the private home of one journalist and then the largest news organisation in the country ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

It’s not deliberate, people just copy the links they’re given. I try to strip off tags personally so I get where you’re coming from, I just think it’s strange that you choose to address it in such a weird opaque manner

sic knows a lot of things, you shouldn’t talk ill of them!!!

copy deliberately, paste deliberately, click "submit post" deliberately

(trackers aside, message boards have existed for 25 years and etiquette has always been to not post giant walls of gibberish and to edit quotes for relevance.)

think it’s strange that you choose to address it in such a weird opaque manner

more than fair, but you have to admit it's less opaque than people deliberately choosing not to read their own posts

(xpost I know almost nothing of any value, and crutis wasn't talking ill, but it's totally reasonable to talk ill of me honestly, or be maddened by my posting. anyway how about those politics???!)

Orange Grifter said "Make Iran Great Again" today

so the Shah left descendants?

THE SHAH SLEEPS IN FRED TRUMP'S GRAVE

Here’s a state Republican Party endorsing countermajoritarian violent intimidation to achieve a political end. https://t.co/hqFanaPkf4

— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) June 23, 2019

something really fucked up is happening in Oregon

https://www.apnews.com/1a3dd1c7c6424a4f9b71226e3d5c7e32

The Oregon governor is having state police attempt to round up AWOL Republican state senators. I had no idea that ever happened! Apparently it's not unprecedented, though.

I remember when that bunch of Democratic senators in Texas fled to Oklahoma to break quorum... it worked that time.

The escaping I've seen before, but the involvement of militias would be something new to me. But there doesn't actually seem to be any militias in that photo?

little more context:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/oregon-statehouse-shut-down-after-lawmakers-flee-team-up-with-right-wing-militias

it's a nice little potential preview of that moment when the national GOP finally officially partners up with the militias to stand their ground after an election they badly lost but blame on voter fraud from migrants (a lie they've been telling for decades now, priming the pump for the Big Lie)

https://i.imgur.com/HFSJ3PZ.jpg

... GOOD MOURNING

can't wait for the sympathetic NYT interviews with militia members

I doubt they’re even going to put it on the front page. It’s been fucked up for half a week now

I'm reading news that the Oregon GOP-tweeted photo is NOT of the capital rally?

https://thinkprogress.org/oregon-gop-tweets-out-the-wrong-photo-claiming-heavily-armed-militia-lays-siege-to-the-capitol-3e8941d5c6ea/

Actually i think they were being sarcastic and suggesting the Dems closed the capitol due to peaceful protesters.

That is of course a lie though

From Daily Beast:

“Gov. Brown, you want a civil war, because this is how you get a civil war,” the Oath Keepers wrote on their public Facebook page. Beneath the post, Oath Keeper fans suggesting hanging, arresting, or taking up arms against Brown.

The only good thing, if this threat were carried out, is that these fringe militias would lose that war very, very badly and be expunged from US politics. The very bad thing is that people would die needlessly because of their stupidity and intransigence.

and the other good news: more martyrs whom the right can canonize

I wouldn't wish for the death of militia members outright but mourning period would be nanoseconds long

So fucking committed to wrecking the planet. Pathetic.

Who exactly would they be fighting against? Would Trump send in the military against these very good people?

He'd send Jared.

these fringe militias would lose that war very, very badly and be expunged from US politics

Well, that would be so in normal times, but remebr the Malheur refuge occupation? Y'know Trump pardoned the original instigators, right?

I'm not seeing trump sending the nat'l guard in to subdue his voters

“Send bachelors and come heavily armed,” Sen. Brian Boquist, a Republican from Dallas, said late Wednesday as the prospect of a walkout loomed.

Trump pardoned the original instigators, right?

Not entirely accurate. The Hammonds, who were pardoned by Trump, did not request the Bundys to come to Oregon on their behalf, let alone ask them to instigate an armed takeover of the Malheur refuge. They duly submitted themselves to re-incarceration on the day the court stipulated. They did thank the Bundys for wanting to help them, but issued a statement during the occupation that the kind of help the Bundys were giving them was not the sort of help they needed.

That said, Trump's pardon for the Hammonds was a clear dog whistle to the militias.

Somebody sent Axios a huge trove of vetting documents on people who got jobs in the Trump administration despite being white supremacists, insanely corrupt, etc., etc.