no, i didn't know that the June 2019 US Politics thread was nasty

these types of people are not going around thinking they're villains

You did, Tree. But he remembers how she totally wanted it because cmon who wouldn't.

I think he is a sadist and doesn’t need to “tell himself hems a good person” like you or i would

Escalating tensions, then pulling back, relishing the power he has over life and death—he’s a kid burning ants with a magnifyying glass.

in the audio clips he says "I didn't like it," and that's always the key word.

Yes

He’s a vile person. Look across his life—he enjoys causing suffering

Speaking of eternal suffering

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— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 21, 2019

i'm not stupid enough to believe that Trump is incapable of being a war criminal (he already has committed a million human rights violations after all) but he may simply not want to deal with a war. it could be distaste, but then again of course it could also be that he doesn't want to have to deal with the complexities of geopolitics. i'm sure it's tough enough for his brain to handle daily briefings on new nicknames for Dem opponents.

Trump 2036 lol

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In the year Trumpy Five Trumpy Five

Does he not involve himself in the drone strike / kill list in the way Obama did?

― ShariVari, Friday, June 21, 2019 8:01 PM (twenty-two minutes ago)

by many accounts drone strike casualties have drastically increased under trump, in part because trump has removed even the limited restrictions obama placed on using drones. obama was rightly criticized for his drone policy (which was awful), but trump's clearly got no compunctions about blowing ppl up.

According to a 2018 report in The Daily Beast, Obama launched 186 drone strikes in Yemen, Somalia and Pakistan during his first two years in office. In Trump’s first two years, he launched 238.

The Trump administration has carried out 176 strikes in Yemen in just two years, compared with 154 there during all eight years of Obama’s tenure, according to a count by The Associated Press and the Bureau of Investigative Journalism.

Experts also say drone strikes under President Trump have surged in Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria.

And, as was the case during Obama’s presidency, these strikes have resulted in untold numbers of civilian casualties. According to the United Nations Assistance Mission in Afghanistan, U.S. drone strikes in Afghanistan killed more than 150 civilians in the first nine months of 2018.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/2019/5/8/18619206/under-donald-trump-drone-strikes-far-exceed-obama-s-numbers

would president warren or sanders put an end to this?

in 2015 Sanders said he wouldn't end the drone program

the MIC will keep on no matter who's in there

being a war criminal is part of the job

Sanders has been talking a lot about it recently, calling it the MIC, saying that there are people profitting from war—like it seems legit

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He seems more focused on this than in 2016

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idk about that time thing (which i of course have not read) but i think "trumpism" dies with trump. his cult of personality is, like him, so superficial that i think even his most ardent fans will rapidly lose interest in him. the values they ascribed to him may live on, but i really don't think we're going to have that many die-hards after he's gone (vs, say, reagan or obama)

agreed -- he is, in his own way, sui generis. or at least i fucking hope so

We can say Trumpism existed in the party before he catalyzed it though.

DON: Well, yeah.

“Trumpism” started long before trump, was fertilized by 9/11 demagoguing and then the tea party, ramping up with the Pailin nomination. The xenophobia and resentment ginned up by Trump is not going to go away when he finally chokes out on a Big Mac.

true but I'm struggling to think of a current personality with a big enough cult following to wear his crown of shit when he dies.

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xp joe rogan?

Sic what are you posting?

Trumpism is a logical extension of the energy by Tea Partiers, which itself was an extension of Newt's Contract with America, which itself was an extension of Massive Resistance, which was an extension of Jim Crow, and so on.

Right-wing antigovernment demagoguery is like a cake pan into which successive generations pour their white male grievance politics.

energy OF

They love government when it's bolstering white supremacy though.

Trumpism is a logical extension of the energy by Tea Partiers, which itself was an extension of Newt's Contract with America, which itself was an extension of Massive Resistance, which was an extension of Jim Crow, and so on.

Right-wing antigovernment demagoguery is like a cake pan into which successive generations pour their white male grievance politics.

― Velcromancer (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, June 21, 2019 3:50 PM

true, and I like your description, but the chaos, extreme recklessness, incitement of hate, breaking with all norms, and blatant venality and corruption with Trump bothers me more than anything that came before

I realize those are components of some of the previous conservative movements, but just not all together to this extent

the sad truth is donald fucking trump will never be out of our lives until he is dead. president or not, this dumb motherfucker is going to have something to say on any and every news worthy item that occurs until the day he ends up dead on a toilet and the media will cover it.

hell, we're still dealing with Reagan!

anyway, it's time for the Dems to ride toward the sound of the guns, as Pareene sez

ie banish Mayor Mushmouth Booty and his ilk

I just want to point out that for many non-white people, what you are calling “Trumpism” has been a Thing in this country for centuries

would be great to figure out how to get rid of it

I think when white ppl get to around 20% of the pop., it might do it

sic shames people who share links without analytics tracking tags removed, not sure why he polices it so much

morbs otm

really happy to see DJP's posts again

I just want to point out that for many non-white people, what you are calling “Trumpism” has been a Thing in this country for centuries

― brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, June 21, 2019

As a non-white person myself, I have to keep reminding people that shit don't change.

not sure why he

I find it genuinely bemusing that people deliberately choose to do this

US Politics May 2019: " If I was burned at the stake, I would ask for a mirror"

note that it took less than two weeks after said election for the government to raid the private home of one journalist and then the largest news organisation in the country ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

It’s not deliberate, people just copy the links they’re given. I try to strip off tags personally so I get where you’re coming from, I just think it’s strange that you choose to address it in such a weird opaque manner

sic knows a lot of things, you shouldn’t talk ill of them!!!