8/1 on Hunt is tempting.
Worth a cunt, sorry, punt.
― Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 June 2019 17:29 (four years ago) link
Working for Jeremy Hunt, a memoir by Luke Turner: https://thequietus.com/articles/08944-jeremy-hunt-levenson-enquiry-hotcourses(apologies to those who've already snickered lengthily at it)
― Zeuhl Idol (Matt #2), Thursday, 20 June 2019 17:30 (four years ago) link
“Cunt to win” too ambiguous a bet
― shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Thursday, 20 June 2019 17:36 (four years ago) link
Can’t believe Gove couldn’t snake his way into the final...we can only hope he invests his pent-up energies in flinging tons of shit
― govussy blues (gyac), Thursday, 20 June 2019 17:36 (four years ago) link
Wonder who the spoiled vote was?
― govussy blues (gyac), Thursday, 20 June 2019 17:37 (four years ago) link
in a way, they're all losers
― Rory end to the lowenbrow (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 20 June 2019 17:42 (four years ago) link
https://www.enca.com/sites/default/files/WEB_PHOTO_SPOILTVOTE.jpg
― mark s, Thursday, 20 June 2019 17:52 (four years ago) link
stephen crabb is still an MP !
― ||||||||, Thursday, 20 June 2019 18:07 (four years ago) link
The French version of being 'between a rock and a hard place' is more eloquent in this instance: choisir entre la peste et le choléra literally means having to choose between the plague and cholera.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 20 June 2019 18:16 (four years ago) link
Did you think he’d just scuttled off?
― govussy blues (gyac), Thursday, 20 June 2019 18:16 (four years ago) link
How long does this shit go on for?
― Matt DC, Thursday, 20 June 2019 18:17 (four years ago) link
22 july I think
― ||||||||, Thursday, 20 June 2019 18:18 (four years ago) link
Another month?!
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 20 June 2019 18:55 (four years ago) link
shamima begum’s baby died in vain then. nice one sajid
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Probably isn't that important to state this but...it would've been carried out anyway whether Sajid got the job or not. And should there be an opportunity to send that msg again (because that's what it was) then it will be taken.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 20 June 2019 18:59 (four years ago) link
xp could be even longer than that
May will only resign when she is sure her successor has confidence of Commons, No 10 says - live news https://t.co/iGbsGMsLIu— The Guardian (@guardian) June 6, 2019
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 20 June 2019 19:00 (four years ago) link
🤮🤮🤮
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 20 June 2019 19:02 (four years ago) link
Popcorn time!
― Matt DC, Thursday, 20 June 2019 19:04 (four years ago) link
Oh wait that's weeks old. Theoretically that means the DUP and a handful of Tories could torpedo whoever wins though?
― Matt DC, Thursday, 20 June 2019 19:07 (four years ago) link
It could in theory be sooner if the first polls are 75-25 to Boris, and Jeremy decides that he'd rather not fork out the £150k that that CCHQ want both of them to pay for the hustings. And possibly by sparing Boris that hassle, he might have a spare cabinet post going?
But more likely he'll figure that just by getting Boris to repeat all the various and contradictory things that he's been variously saying to get backers from Steve Baker to Matt Hancock, he might yet win.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 20 June 2019 19:09 (four years ago) link
wasn't the 'May only resigning when it's clear her successor has confidence of Commons' thing a response to reassure people concerned that the tories could bring forward the parliamentary summer recess (to shortly before the end of the leadership contest), and the new PM would then have a month in office without having to face parliament
― soref, Thursday, 20 June 2019 19:17 (four years ago) link
My take on it is that he'll need to enter into new DUP talks. Doubt there will be any Tory resistance as no chance of any of that shower of cunts triggering an election.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 20 June 2019 19:39 (four years ago) link
“I’ve been the underdog right from the start and I like to prove people wrong. And the way I’m going to win this race is by showing that the best way to Brexit is by sending the European Union a prime minister they can engage with, a tough negotiator, someone who has a bottom line and won’t give up until I get what is right for our country. But also someone who is prepared to walk away.”
― Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 20 June 2019 20:11 (four years ago) link
A tough negotiator prepared to shoot him self in the foot if he doesn’t get what he wants
― stet, Thursday, 20 June 2019 20:36 (four years ago) link
So the race for pm boils down to the age old question of:
The EU mostly resembles:a) Nazi Germanyb) A Soviet prison
If a), vote Bozza. If b), vote Hunt.
― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 20 June 2019 20:46 (four years ago) link
stalag stalin
― findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 20 June 2019 20:48 (four years ago) link
Srsly, I know being pm is BJ's dream, but why *now*? Why nick the job when surely he must know he cannot do "better" than May, cannot deliver anything other than being the PM overseeing a no-deal crash out of the EU, and it will end a failure? Am I missing something that can make him the Churchillian legernd he wants to be? Is he really this daft and power mad? Is that all there is to it?
― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 20 June 2019 20:48 (four years ago) link
something might turn up. something always has, all his life.
― Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 20 June 2019 20:58 (four years ago) link
I also ask myself those questions LBI. All the losers will get another shot at this in 12 - 36 months time
― Rory end to the lowenbrow (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 20 June 2019 21:06 (four years ago) link
OK maybe not McVey
― Rory end to the lowenbrow (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 20 June 2019 21:07 (four years ago) link
he’s driven by power. like a dog chasing a car he’ll do it if he’s got the slightest sniff. like a dog chasing a car he doesn’t know what to do with it when he’s got it.
― Fizzles, Thursday, 20 June 2019 21:14 (four years ago) link
more like a dog chasing the front wheels of a tractor
― calzino, Thursday, 20 June 2019 21:18 (four years ago) link
A dog that hasn't been neutered.
― Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 June 2019 21:21 (four years ago) link
Thx NV, 'cause I felt half foolish even asking those questions. As if I'm the one who's mad, not the Tories (when in fact it's both obv).
― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 20 June 2019 21:38 (four years ago) link
"It could in theory be sooner if the first polls are 75-25 to Boris, and Jeremy decides that he'd rather not fork out the £150k that that CCHQ want both of them to pay for the hustings. And possibly by sparing Boris that hassle, he might have a spare cabinet post going?"
It's a shame Hunt can't just give Johnson a walk over because it would be too much like a May style coronation
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 20 June 2019 21:47 (four years ago) link
Yeah i think they'll want to go thru the motions
― Rory end to the lowenbrow (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 20 June 2019 22:21 (four years ago) link
The prospect of Boris Johnson going through an entire month without saying something stupid seems implausible - if that is, and it's an enormous if, he's actually put under any pressure and held up to proper scrutiny.
― Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 June 2019 22:28 (four years ago) link
He seems to be better at keeping quiet in the run up to elections than he is at any of the other things he is paid for
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 20 June 2019 22:36 (four years ago) link
It doesn't especially matter whether he says anything dodgy or not. He's said enough already and not enough people who will be voting give a shit.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 20 June 2019 22:41 (four years ago) link
True but I still like to see the cunt squirm, if only for a short while.
― Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 June 2019 22:50 (four years ago) link
unfettered boris is something that will unwind badly for him in election conditions... well imo anyway. they daren't even let unfettered boris out in front of fucking tory members - what hope in a GE?
― calzino, Thursday, 20 June 2019 22:55 (four years ago) link
I think he could win a GE or at least have a decent shot at it, under this scenario: a) he wins leadership, b) he goes straight to Brussels, c) he comes back with nothing, says EU is being obstructionist, only solution is no-deal, d) he does a deal with Farage, whereby Farage promises not to put up candidates in any seat where there is a no-deal supporting Tory candidate, e) he calls an election.
If that all happened quickly enough it might catch Labour in the middle of a civil war with no clear brexit message and the Tories might pull it off, at least as a minority govt with support from DUP and Brexit Party. Of course a lot of things would have to go right for them, but sadly I don't think it's impossible for the Tories to win the next election.
― Zelda Zonk, Friday, 21 June 2019 00:06 (four years ago) link
I definitely think the Tories can win the next election.
― Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Friday, 21 June 2019 06:24 (four years ago) link
he does a deal with Farage, whereby Farage promises not to put up candidates in any seat where there is a no-deal supporting Tory candidate,
Whats the likelihood of this? I'm not seeing it
― anvil, Friday, 21 June 2019 07:01 (four years ago) link
and is that even really a good deal for Boris anyway? How many Peterboroughs would Labour need, not that many
― anvil, Friday, 21 June 2019 07:02 (four years ago) link
It's either that, or he somehow gets a version of May's deal through. The EU aren't going to budge, and the current parliament will impede no deal.
― Zelda Zonk, Friday, 21 June 2019 07:10 (four years ago) link
I don't see how he wins an election unless Farage stands aside completely, not just where there are no-deal MPs. And standing aside completely is untenable for Farage
― anvil, Friday, 21 June 2019 07:14 (four years ago) link
happy “it’s OK for conservative MPs to physically assault women” discourse day everyone
― ||||||||, Friday, 21 June 2019 07:17 (four years ago) link
farage will stand aside for 1 a seat at the negotiating table or maybe 2 his knighthood
― ||||||||, Friday, 21 June 2019 07:18 (four years ago) link
the only thing I can confidently predict is that when a GE is called, on R4 there will be a lot of interviews with trad labour voters declaring they are voting for the brexit party and the phrase "keep Corbyn out of no.10" will be used about two thousand times and the word "marxist" will used an additional two thousand times. What Peterborough should have taught Farage is that he needs to start spending some of that dark money on ground troops.
― calzino, Friday, 21 June 2019 07:18 (four years ago) link
I can't see the Brexit Party even getting the previous UKIP share if Johnson goes into a snap election backing No Deal. I think Johnson would win and the reluctant Tories will fall into line behind him.
― ShariVari, Friday, 21 June 2019 07:24 (four years ago) link