Seizing back control: The ILX lol brexit is how we're all gonna die thread.

I’m probably just another jocko w a chip on my shoulder tho

Ran into [beloved national broadcaster] getting coffee this morning and they still reckon Brexit is in the so not gonna happen category regardless of who the PM is.

Does their conversation always turn to Brexit in the time it takes to get coffee?

for reference

https://i.imgur.com/ZTPrQmg.jpg

It's that Midlands & Wales section that's the crux of the problem, specifically the Midlands. I'd guess that support is reasonably even distributed there as well, win the Midlands and you win the election but it's hard to win because it's so divided.

(English) Tories do not have a romantic view of Scotland. Not sure when they ever did - when Victoria was on the throne?

that con members poll is just what you'd expect from obscure shires nutsos who's window to the world is the mail and they are waiting to die, or exUkip entryists .. same. I'm more worried about daft Labour voters who'd reflexively never vote tory, now saying they'd vote for a right wing tory pressure group instead.

I bet tory party members have more tartan kitsch in their homes than labour party members

Multiple xps to Matt

This vox pop. This fucking vox pop. pic.twitter.com/VKcy9QBObX

— Leonardo Carella (@leonardocarella) June 18, 2019

(xp) I've got no idea, the romantics in this scenario have always been Scottish Tories, imagining their English counterparts ever gave a fuck about them or the Union.

scottishness isn't anathema to tories - it's an integral part of british imperial identity. like the royals, lots of tories love their scottish holidays, harris tweeds, half-imagined distant scottish ancestry, and tartan teddies.

Scottishness good, Scots bad or at best inapplicable.

not sure shire or midlands tories ascribe much value to that biscuit tin nonsense but you may be right.

whats the old saying? - 'the english like the irish but don't respect them, respect the scottish but don't like them, and neither like nor respect the welsh'

same tbh

there is only so far you can stretch credibility with this pretense of a union!

Hierarchy of English regional dislike:

1. Londoners
2. People in a broadly similar town 20 miles away
3. Scots

mood

The gap between #2 and #3 is huge by the way. I doubt yr average provincial Englisher spends much time thinking about Scotland at all, which is why that poll is largely believable to me.

if there's one thing the discourse has been lacking it's londoners fantasizing aloud about the thoughts of the 'average provincial Englisher'

I wld say nearly everyone hates scousers more than scots tho

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LOL Matt, we were next to each other in a 10-person queue and I thanked them for being correct in previous predictions because it allowed me to maintain my sanity for three months, we chatted a bit more hence what I said upthread, and I left to go jump on a bus.

I find geordies way more annoying than scousers. Spend a day at flamingoland and you'll end up wanting to throw one of these drunken troglodytes into the lions enclosure.

boris johnson as soldier F

“One quick way of me assessing people is whether I would trust them with a platoon of 36 soldiers if they had to do an attack”

Tory MP and ex-Army officer Bob Stewart on why he’s backing Boris Johnson as Prime Ministerhttps://t.co/OuCiTQJuTE #VictoriaLIVE pic.twitter.com/fq66aTsZod

— Victoria Derbyshire (@VictoriaLIVE) June 20, 2019

do an asthma attack

RIP platoon of hypothetical squaddies, brutally mown down within seconds.

definitely a healthy, extremely normal lens through which to view the world

I have full confidence that Johnson would happily send other people to their deaths

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty-six_officers_problem

^ beyond all Torybranes

Bob Stewart? Only slightly a torturer.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-northern-ireland-38758940

Thought I remembered the beetroot faced assassin popping up on this thread before.

Trying to imagine Jeremy Hunt leading a platoon into battle, you know what maybe the army torturer has a point there

It's probably not the analogy I'd choose because right now this is looking like a contest to see who can trample over the minefield the fastest.

100 Days last night was suggesting boris has enough supporters that he could choose his final opponent with tactical voting.

how did we get here?

december 21 2012 iirc

Banter timeline demands that Gove is his opponent, then withdraws before the member vote.

robs us of hilarious 'johnson fucks cunt' headlines tho

members withdrawing, what

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-party-boris-johnson-farage-pact-no-deal-tory-leadership-race-a8964721.html

Boris Johnson - 157

Jeremy Hunt - 59

Michael Gove - 61

Sajid Javid - 34

rip sajid javid, heaven needed your perfectly smooth dome

the govementum is building

Sontar NA

mps are seeing the appeal of an appetising goveussy on the table!

I'm liking the emerging trend of putting Jeremy Hunt second in the rankings even when Gove has more votes.

caller otm

pic.twitter.com/MD10aL1rky

— Will Davies (@davies_will) June 20, 2019

mps are seeing the appeal of an appetising goveussy on the table!

i hate u

2 votes missing it seems, if they both went against Johnson he'd win by ONE

Parliament blocks No Deal

Johnson calls general election and comes to arrangement with Farage

millions of amped up FBPEers realise there's now an obvious and realistic way to prevent No Deal

so they vote for the Lib Dems and Johnson wins a majority

you simply love to see it

In that scenario a lot of the blame would lie with Labour for failing to anticipate that people would behave in that way, or for anticipating it and carrying on regardless.