How many times is Godzilla going to be rebooted? 2014 edition

hmm ok was hoping youd hated it so i could gleefully disregard yr pan of this but no such luck it appears

yr welcome

might still go tbrrwu

I'd figure you would never run out of movie ideas for someone in a big lizard suit.

I would totally see a movie where everything was state of the art CG *except* Godzilla, who was a man in suit.

xxpost i get it - hell i went today know that there was a good chance it was going to be bad

gotta see to believe

yeah....and despite the criticisms above ringing v true based on trailer....i mean monsters on a big screen with the bass HHHHHOOOOMMMMM noise yknow?

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basically yes i fuckin love it

ents are kaiju dont @ me

electro monsters are not enough when TWO THIRDS of the movie is Concerned nonsensical humans

ents are totally kaiju

i kaiju knot

the concerned nonsensical humans are like. true to the source material

This is like sub-Friday Night Lights drama

the humans aren't there for you to care about

they are there for the mythopoesis

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many xpost concerned nonsensical humans take on new layers of nonsense in *this* movie lemme tell ya

plus it’s not the fact of them that bugs me, it’s that we spend way too much time with them & everything about them is eyerollingly dumb/boring/both

sounds more like a documentary amirite hey

The humans were presented as if you were supposed to care deeply about them and their motivations, except they were completely unsympathetic and their motivations made zero sense.

otm

then again tho i mean thank god they all took turns standing around explaining themselves to each other or we would have never known their deeply stupid reasons

I spent a good chunk of the movie trying to connect the family with the first movie only to learn they weren't in it. Yet they were presented as if we'd be totally familiar with them from the beginning.

that's myths for ya

I did like the monsters though. King Ghidorah was cool.

King Ghidorah was pretty neat
I liked how beefy they made Godzilla too

Wait they weren’t in the first movie? Christ, this movie seems even dumber now, was the dead son that they won’t shut up about in it at least?

I don't think so, but that's what I'm saying! The treat the kid as a tragedy we're supposed to be familiar with. False memories, maaan.

Was anyone from this besides Ken Watanabe in the first one?

they were not in it; everything about them is at the beginning of this one, which writes them marginally into the events in san francisco from the last one. doctor serizawa his colleague and the david straithairn admiral are holdovers. plus the big guy obviously.

absolute unit

Man, Shin Godzilla was soooooo weird. Also pretty boring, like watching a filmed radio play at times. But cool destruction, guess.

I described Shin Godzilla as "nonstop panic" so I guess we disagree on that. It's an office drama as much as anything but I was into it.

I thought there was not enough panic! Everyone was really cool and collected and practical and reasonable, almost to comic effect.

"If we were to devise a coagulate, maybe we can hinder Godzilla's cooling abilities."
"Yes, that is a very good idea. What time is it?"
"It's 5:42."
"Hmm, at this hour the traffic could be pretty terrible. Can we get a helicopter?"
"Maybe. Here, fill out these three forms and we'll send it over to accounting to see if we have enough funds left."
"Oh no."
"What is it?"
"The printer is out of ink."
"Damn. Can you check the filing cabinet?"
"Hmm, let me see. No, it's locked. Do you have the key?"
"I think there's a copy of the key with the secretary."
"Great. In the meantime, are you staying hydrated?"
"Yes, but the water bubbler will need to be replaced soon."
"Hmm, good point. Perhaps we can have someone make a run to Costco for a case of bottled water?"
"That's a very good idea, but Godzilla has destroyed the main road."
"Damn again. How about the Americans? Can they deliver some water?"
"We can ask, but the treaty does not outline water distribution, only recycling protocol that addresses the empty bottles."
"This is a terrible development."

And every line of that exchange would be delivered by a different character in a suit and take place in a different anonymous bunker or board room. And then Godzilla would do something cool.

Shin Godzilla is great but it is fundamentally about meetings iirc

Kinda funny, considering these films as reflections of the anxieties of the societies that produce them, how detonating nuclear warheads is like super cazh in these latest American ones

xp yes exactly, it’s a satire

I guess as a satire it's pretty amusing? Except googly-eyed Godzilla is pretty menacing in this one, which undercuts the satire.

Wait why?

It’s satirising the Japanese bureaucratic response to natural disasters, how is that undercut by the disaster being scary

did he mean papercut

I suppose I just found the satire kind of dumb, because like I said, everything they wanted to do made perfect practical sense. If they are already worrying about floods and nuclear reactors and things of that nature in the movie, what difference does it make to throw in a giant supernatural monster? I mean, it works just as well as a satire of Godzilla films!

Maybe we just live in a post satire world.

I saw it less as a satire and more as a compelling office drama. You can only get away with going that deep on the minutea of office decision-making when the fate of Tokyo is on the line. Probably a big part of the appeal of (certain) war movies as well.

> how detonating nuclear warheads is like super cazh in these latest American ones

If you are stupid enough to watch the straight to TV films on the horror channel you'll see they fix everything with nuclear weapons. Asteroids, tornados, alien invasions, you name it.

Shin Godzilla was a bit weird, yes, but I'd still take it over the last two Hollywood Godzillas (not seen the new one)

rewatching the recent Hollywood Godzilla venture and, yes, it does a lot less with a huge budget than many low budget Godzilla movies

they really leaned too hard into the family drama aspects and boring white guy gets too much screen time

the plot about humans deciding to revive the "titans" in order to correct a planet out of balance, only to realize they've unleashed something that's not of earth, has some legs

tbh the best -- and maybe only good character -- is Ken Watanabe who gets all the reaction shots telling the real plot. he gets that something much bigger is going on, and his sacrifice in the movie is a good depiction of pure religious devotion to something he fears but respects

otm. couldn't believe all my kaiju friends were going gonzo for this, because the Vera Farmiga storyline was fuckin' terrible.

by the time the big battle happened I was bored af

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― j., Tuesday, June 18, 2019 7:16 PM (seven months ago)

too much time spent showing us that humans are completely irrelevant and incapable of having any effect at all -- just report that the monsters killed all the people offscreen and give us some monster fights with better lighting

Never commented on this thread I guess, but I did love the 2014 one.

yeah this recent one was bad but there was a moment where someone is watching tv and to scenes of giant monsters going apeshit all over the globe a newscaster says in totally flat-affect newscaster voice "this is the worst disaster in human history!" and I totally lost it.

it does suffer or benefit from the script curse where anything that tries to be funny falls flat but lines like that are hilarious