2020 Democratic presidential primary

The Progressives' often appalling civil rights record (and support for Prohibition) is not often mentioned in the history books.

this is interesting alfred. i didn't know all that much about TR

Don't vote for the narrative of it.

but seems right to me

Treesh, I recommend this eye-opening book, Melvin Urofksy's 2009 Brandeis bio (y'all should know about his SCOTUS career), and John Milton Cooper's Wilson bio from the same year.

It's kind of amazing that Treeship doesn't support what could be the first female president, because the white man makes for a better narrative...

I am convinced Fred is now posting with Transformer assistance

I hate to even vaguely agree with the Airy Danish but "narrative" should only be used by bad journalists

yes but in what world does Bernie make for a better narrative than Warren?

maybe he doesn't and idgaf

(he was never a Republican tho)

Never a Democrat either

to his credit, wish I could say the same

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/bernie-sanders-signs-dnc-loyalty-pledge-i-am-member-democratic-n979696

glad that's settled!

look fwd to him endorsing Biden

if bernie's choices are limited to endorsing biden, endorsing trump, endorsing someone who isn't biden or trump, but a third party candidate who has no chance at all of winning, or else just sitting on the sideline and not expressing any preference at all, then I'd say endorsing biden looks like the right move to me, whatever you may say to the contrary.

Westeros picked the candidate with the best narrative and look where it got them

this is worse than me like boobs imo. and yes splinter is generally tiresome but I thought the summary of the wrongness of his remark was good

https://splinternews.com/biden-if-you-dont-want-to-work-with-republicans-start-1835597845

idk I kinda like the "real, physical revolution" idea he was promoting there

Aimless: yeah yeah yeah ad nauseum throwing up

splinter/tombot otm

i can't stop saying/thinking Me Like Boobs

ME LIKE BOOBS AND FOMENTING CIVIL WAR

"Can you tell me about a time you disagreed with a decision that was made at work?"

~don't say me like boobs, don't say me like boobs, don't say me like boobs, don't say me like boobs~

"...I can't tell...me...like...boobs FUCK"

https://slate.com/business/2019/06/joe-biden-health-care-plan-he-gave-a-peek-and-we-have-questions.html

So far this event is really clarifying how Warren and Sanders have diverged. Both have detailed plans, but Warren spends more time unpacking them; Sanders brings every question back to "political revolution," because "all the legislation in the world" isn't enough w/o pressure.

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) June 17, 2019

lol Karl I thought you were going to go with "me like... asses?"

lol

Bernie was walking the walk when Warren was still a registered Republican

— Thomas Attila Lewis (@tomdog) June 18, 2019

I like that Bernie is kind of a simple person with strong convictions stretching back half a century. If I wanted a complicated and nuanced character who evolved over time I’d read a novel.

fortunately Warren has that too; even when she was a nominal Republican she was publishing and lecturing on the dangers of unmediated corporate greed.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/04/12/elizabeth-warren-profile-young-republican-2020-president-226613

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/06/24/can-elizabeth-warren-win-it-all

I like that Bernie is kind of a simple person with strong convictions stretching back half a century. If I wanted a complicated and nuanced character who evolved over time I’d read a novel.

― Trϵϵship, Tuesday, June 18, 2019

man, you would've hated FDR!

I like Warren because she actually seems to blend vision and boldness with pragmatism and, gasp, even some technocracy. But I can't say I'm shocked that some people seem to only want the former and seem to think the latter is actively bad.

pragmatism, like "electability," is in the eye of the beholder.

a list of US politicians who qualify as complicated and nuanced characters would prob be a pretty short list tbh

Senator Hamlet

a list of US politicians who qualify as complicated and nuanced characters would prob be a pretty short list tbh

yeah I didn't get that either

@DonaldJTrumpJr on Biden saying government has failed some people: "The problem is, you've been in government for almost 50 years."

— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) June 18, 2019

https://mobile.twitter.com/maggieNYT

solid burn, wonder who told jr

Quite the closing riff by @JoeBiden tonight pic.twitter.com/m8j6CYbO8N

— Christopher Cadelago (@ccadelago) June 19, 2019

if he gets the nom I swear to god he will lose, what even is this shit

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I’m not (inaudible) revolution for next month’s thread title.

xp

(well, not this here thread’s obv)

Biden 2020: Make America (Inaudible) Again

Folks, the more I think about this statement by Biden, the more a sickening realization hits me:

Joe Biden just dog-whistled to racists. He signaled that he’s a good old boy and that he can get along with them.

I knew weeks ago I couldn’t support him. Now I’m actively opposed. https://t.co/86NoZ0j5YA

— Cliston Brown (@ClistonBrown) June 19, 2019

This thread has made the social media rounds:

The more I hear about @ewarren's "solutions" the less I support her. Her proposed policies sound mostly like wonky technocratic regulatory schemes, not actual solutions. We have seen these type of elaborately conceived concessions to the market fail time and time again.

— Daniel Baryon (@apeirophobic) June 15, 2019

The people in that thread are full-on unhinged.