Seizing back control: The ILX lol brexit is how we're all gonna die thread.

i'm not sure Tony McDoughnut understands what "dilettante" means

politics was much more cultured + brainy back in the days when a stuffy old pol would confess a liking for the raucous rocking of the Arctic Monkeys...

everyone is a dilettante, apart from Sir Roger Scruton.

For the record, not that it matters: I've read "Ulysses" three times, once in a graduate Joyce seminar -- but, you know, Corbyn doesn't seem to have noticed that Bloom is a Jew facing antisemitism.

— Bohumil Hairball Vortex of Eternal Shame (@closely_watched) June 16, 2019

The more I think about it, the madder I get. Thread coming later today.

— Bohumil Hairball Vortex of Eternal Shame (@closely_watched) June 16, 2019

sorry, having my arse-hairs permed later.

The interviewer says they did discuss AS in Ulysses but it didn’t make the final edit. STFU, melts:

We did discuss James Joyce's sly, adroit attacks on anti-semitism in Ulysses during the interview, in fact, Matt. But it didn't get into the final feature. Jeremy Corbyn is right behind James Joyce on this one.

— Peter Carty (@TravelCourse) June 14, 2019

every single politician should try to be one upping corbyn/ulysses imo. i want to see mcdonnell talking about finnegan’s wake, chuka umunna on gravity’s rainbow, tim farron on story of the eye

— a a dril (@demarionunn) June 16, 2019

Rory Stewart on Bravo Two Zero

as I said before, Stewart comes off like a crapper version of Ludo's disappointing dads from The Last Samurai. he should be made to read it

Nobody responded to that the first time because it was bollocks. No need to repeat it.

dunno how a subjective redolence can be bollocks but i guess i don't make the rules round here

if only we could eliminate repetition of all bollocks itt through ignoring it

there's been such a deluge of cynical, contradictory and opportunistic bullshit from Watson and co over the last four years, so much of it inevitably gets completely memory holed https://t.co/MGq3Ly4yq0

— tom (@malaiseforever) June 17, 2019

talking of repetition and bollocks...

mind you that was before Tom's Mr Muscles period, where dubious blandishments about how great the EU is between Polo G tracks is his current thang. Or just anything that undermines his party leadership will do.

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/treasury-admits-doesnt-know-north-16430145

a tasty admission from the chancellor: not only does he not look at data on regional economies, he doesn't think it exists

"I do not think we have regional recession data ... it would be a problem to try to collect it. There would be a huge statistical and data challenge in trying to disaggregate the economy into regions in that way, to look at macroeconomic performance."

they had been playing that bullshit gambit about their party membership for years as well. Anyway collecting data separately from smaller regions is not a "huge" task, it is actually a smaller task you fucking numpt!

https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/defence-jeremy-corbyns-brave-and-lonely-stand-calls-war-against-iran

makes u think

Super thrilled to announce that "Did #Austerity cause #brexit?" has just been accepted for publication at the @AEAjournals in the American Economic Review. Short thread on whole paper available here https://t.co/FxYwKmz3Ik... pic.twitter.com/bG79ERnCTH

— Thiemo Fetzer (@fetzert) June 17, 2019

really should make some people think, but fucking melts seem to equate anti-austerity with populism (the bad version) because idk austerity isn't as bad as the lefty commentariat/UN rapporteur says it is .. it's fucking luxury here compared to romania blah blah.. well so say people lacking the imagination or experience to know what it is like to have fuck all.

loooooooooool at this chart

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fucking hell

Raab’s going to win, isn’t he?

Come on you gotta love that chart. Bet Seumas does!

That bar chart will surely rank with the 9/11 photographs as the defining image of the century.

if they're willing to accept the breakup of the UK, the destruction of the Tory party and 'significant damage to the UK economy' as a price worth paying to get brexit then what do they think PM Corbyn's going to do that's worse? (maybe they think that 'significant damage to the UK economy' will mostly affect ppl who aren't them, whereas Corbyn will be coming specifically for their money? or do they really believe he's going to put everyone who reads the Telegraph in gulags or something?)

or Corbyn will be coming specifically for their money AND giving it to people they dislike, they would rather see everyone suffer

Of course they believe Corbyn would come for their money!

All other outcomes don't affect them. The Brexit party could be their new home/political club, it's really funny.

it's fucking luxury here compared to romania blah blah

You can fully subscribe to this statement and be anti-austerity.

you can also be anti-austerity without being reductive about how much misery and despair it causes, unless you are a foodbank veteran yourself and think it's a pretty fucking plush life!

The UK's poverty rate is objectively lower than Romania's. This doesn't mean that poor British people can go fuck themselves or that austerity doesn't kill.

How about this: if you're using Romania as a crabs-in-a-bucket baseline to defend austerity in the UK, you can go fuck yourself. If you think Romania isn't in a worse place than the UK overall, you can also go fuck yourself.

it is a truth universally acknowledged that we can all go fuck ourselves

We aren't as fucked in the UK as we could be seems like an ongoing theme with you, pom.

Thank the lord we aren't so fucked that we can at least post stuff on ilxor dot com

Did you read this part, tovarisch?

if you're using Romania as a crabs-in-a-bucket baseline to defend austerity in the UK, you can go fuck yourself

In it for the 39% accelerationists who are here for Corbyn rolling the tanks into parliament square

there are many worse places than the UK in Europe but that makes little difference to your own personal hell when you have to go to your local church foodbank to put a loaf of bread on your table, there are a lot of melts like Stella Creasy that roll their eyes when people talk about austerity related deaths. I get angry when people seem oblivious to how terrible UC is, and it isn't just the Conservative party who seem quite indifferent to how bad it is. Sometimes it feels just a small number of PLP (especially McD) have any kind of urgency to oppose it. And dampening how destructive it is with shrugs + mehs is a tactic approval at worst or just plain old indifference to human suffering which is also bad.

You can fully subscribe to this statement and be anti-austerity.

― pomenitul, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

No you can't. Few people in the UK experience this luxury. Many people on ilx are struggling, or if they aren't rn they are insecure about having any kind of future. Stop this. xp

xp to pom

That's some neo-imperialist bullshit.

And frankly racist.

The two usually go together

JC will roll tanks into parliament and...come for your children's books.

If Jeremy Corbyn becomes Prime Minister, your dad’s old copy of Stig of the Dump is at risk pic.twitter.com/7URDMNWUIg

— No One (@judeinlondon2) June 18, 2019

other day when "Money in the Grave" was trending I thought it was perhaps a new bold inheritance tax reform by boris, but alas it was the new Drake release.

That's some neo-imperialist bullshit.

xxp I saw a Dominic sandbrook book in the house the other day and was extremely grateful as I’ll know where to turn once the inevitable no-deal toilet roll shortages kick in.

The navel-gazing, exceptionalist implication (disguised as righteous self-loathing) that it's wrong to stress how much worse off Romania is compared to the UK is another way of saying: 'ours is the sole valid yardstick; your problems are at the very least equal to our own' even as all serious indicators say otherwise. Britsplaining, if you will, which is, yes, a neo-imperialist gesture.

xp

It's doubly offensive in light of the numerous times I've pointed out that I am not trying to minimise the deleterious effects of British austerity by any stretch of the imagination. I'm simply replacing them within the context I know best.

I knew that's what you were going to come up with pom. For once I'm not disappointed.

Go to Ferentari and enlighten the locals about how their standard of living is no worse than that of their distant British cousins. There is still time before Britain crashes out of the EU.