2020 Democratic presidential primary

That label only applies to 85% of the field now!

pols not answering questions: ALERT THE MEDIA

really hope she got the DNA gaffes outta her system, Warren stans

"A few cunning people who fear progress will try to give you new and strange names for what we're doing. Sometimes they will call it...socialism...But in so doing they are trying to make very complex and feel radical something that is really very simple and very practical" - FDR pic.twitter.com/DKOLhPTrSL

— Zaid Jilani (@ZaidJilani) June 12, 2019

only Biden quote i remember from past debates was the low-hanging fruit reRudy: "a noun, a verb, 9/11"

but that might not have been a debate?

Pro Bernie over here - I don't have a problem with co-opting the word socialism, as its essentially lost al meaning anyway so why not? But yeah I don't think that answer on Chris Hayes clip above was good, too much time spent talking about a term, who cares?

No issue with the repetition in general though. Is it annoying if you're seeing and hearing him every day? Sure! But the people who aren't seeing and hearing him every day are far more important

pols not answering questions: ALERT THE MEDIA

He's had four years to answer this question

isn't bernie's non-answer just standard media training? there are very few ways, maybe none, that he can answer that question that are going to result in him advancing his message, and a lot of ways it could go wrong

yeah but we have it in for him

really hope she got the DNA gaffes outta her system, Warren stans

That was like a year and a half ago. Only you and Trump still remember. Try to keep up.

i wouldn't be so sure that warren (or anyone else) is going to destroy biden during debates. and if she does, i wouldn't be so sure that other people are going to see the same thing that you or anyone else does.

I don't think she's going to go into a debate with Biden looking to "destroy Biden." The videos I've seen of her speeches show her doing a really, really good job of selling her message to the audience, and seeming relatable and appealing on a personal level. I expect her to focus on that, and allow the contrast between her focused, thought-through plans for the future and Biden's hazy dream of comity to be crystal clear all on its own.

Biden was good in the VP debates, I'm not sure why everyone suddenly believes he's going to answer every question with "ME LIKE BOOBS"

― brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, June 14, 2019 2:26 PM (fifty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

might be a big boost to his chances in the general if he did

also I'm laughing out loud every time I look at the phrase "ME LIKE BOOBS" so please just drop me directly into the dumpster

That was like a year and a half ago. Only you and Trump still remember. Try to keep up.

Saw it discussed on CNN literally yesterday.

I don't think Biden really needs Warren to 'destroy' him in the debates, thats a task he is more suited to himself

can see gillibrand attacking biden on his creepiness given her position on al franken

she should, can't hurt

so many ppl in thread saying Warren should stay in the Senate a year ago

yeah well now she shouldnt

I'm struggling to understand Morbs' antipathy to Warren. She has all of Sanders' charisma but with policy positions, great personal charm, isnt 80, and a woman.

she's 70

I realize that unlike the last old white lady Trump beat, this one actually has beliefs, but 6 months of "Pocahontas" may neutralize that.

He's had four years to answer this question

It's an inside-baseball question, only you and Chris Hayes give a shit.

ME LIKE BOOBS

anvil correct me if I'm wrong but you are not a US resident/voter, right?

also m bison otm as usual re: Warren, she's a Senate loss I'm willing to accept, esp in a blue state

my partner is

It's an inside-baseball question, only you and Chris Hayes give a shit.

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Fr

sez the guy who cares about the Pocahontas question

I think Warren is acquitting herself well but I would be happy if she remained my senator

I do care, Alfred, cuz it shows she is capable of tin-eared miscalculation

biden isn't gonna be me like boobs, but i would not put it past him to make a poorly-formed joek about his touchy-feelyness in a debate situation. his inability to read the room on this is pretty fuckin bad

I do care, Alfred, cuz it shows she is capable of tin-eared miscalculation

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, June 14, 2019 11:13 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

where were you the 20,000th time Bernie struck out while answering a question about racism in America?

Spartacist League bake sale iirc

"Folks tell me, Joe, you gotta stop petting the girls, but i just can't help it. Me likey the ladies!"

Silence

"My first wife and daughter were killed in a horrible automobile accident."

Move the Democratic Doomsdy Clock another minute closer to Midnight... https://t.co/swsmQsHtoE

— Jeffrey St. Clair (@JSCCounterPunch) June 15, 2019

crut and roger, I am not a Bernie idolator. All politicians suck suck suck, p much.

(just not as much as the Clintons)

HC is headlining fundraisers, don't see what's so apocalyptic about that nor do I see why anyone is surprised. she will bring in money.

fuck 'Jeffrey St. Clair', really

no one's surprised

it's money that matters in the USA

just don't pretend the Dems are about a single other thing

How much of a danger is Yang? He's been gradually creeping up the odds now for some time, and thats without his turn as being the main focus of media attention, and its likely his turn soon. Effective media communicator, done well on RW media under pressure, got lucky with which debate night he is on.

Once Biden drops away a lot of votes there for the taking too

yang's core of support right now are rw 4ch*n dickholes who think he's sending them cryptic messages about the looming white minority and silicon valley dickholes who want to wipe out the traditional welfare state with UBI, pass

yes - well aware of the Trojan horse nature of what the UBI stuff is about! But the question is, now that he's got this far can he close the gap further? Is he a genuine danger given some of the more likely contenders are going to run into trouble once the debates start

no

i think julián should grow a goatee

What odds is yang edging closing in?

now that he's got this far can he close the gap further?

Yes, he most certainly close it further. He's at ~1% in Iowa rn. I'd say there is a good chance that he hasn't reached his maximum ceiling, yet, which I estimate could be as high as 3%!

What odds is yang edging closing in?

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek),

he needs more ying

yeesh

He’s over performing in online betting markets because they’re populated by crypto currency techies predisposed to like him and British people (lol betting). Both these groups do their US politics entirely online, so he may even seem popular to them. He isn’t.

yep

I generally like Warren but I don't really buy the "she's Bernie but better" rhetoric. They're different in not-insignificant ways; for instance there's always been a mobilizing edge to Sanders' politics that she generally doesn't opt for. I feel like I spot blasts like this every few days in different parts of the country.

#Bernie2020 is calling on all his supporters to come rally w #Teachers at the #WestVirginia Capitol on Mon, June 17!

If you're in or around WV, please GO stand in #solidarity w teachers as the WV GOP continues to try to silence them. #RedForEd
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— TrekkerTeach (@trekkerteach12) June 14, 2019

yeah this may be wrong but the feel i get from warren's campaigning is more like you signing on to a thing, more than you being mobilized to do something, though it's not obvious that those amount to different things in their respective campaigning efforts