2020 Democratic presidential primary

I think he's been mediocre at best this cycle. Thanks for the memories, Bernie.

the second season is often not as thrilling as the first

“Why does the word matter more than the agenda?”
"Powerful people need to hate you."
"Er, okay... So, you're saying you use the words 'Democratic Socialism' to put yourself in opposition to the powers in charge?"
"Economic rights are human rights."
"... I mean, yes they are, and you can say all of this regardless of what label you put on yourself, so why 'Democratic Socialism'?"
"Furthermore- [EXCERPT ENDS]"

Twitter: BERNIE 2020

The repeating-every-sentence-to-make-sure-we-get-it shtick is a fucking grind.

i enjoy the word socialism

i know we're not supposed to care about polls this early, but it's interesting that bernie's numbers have not recovered after biden's post-announcement bump even as numbers have kinda regressed.

meanwhile Warren keeps climbing

why are the colors purple and orange

big clemson fans probably

the california poll is quite shocking at this point. harris getting 4th in her own state. ever orourke is somehow still 2nd in texas

Just like his Senate race.

lol

i wouldn't be so sure that warren (or anyone else) is going to destroy biden during debates. and if she does, i wouldn't be so sure that other people are going to see the same thing that you or anyone else does.

i thought john kerry destroyed bush during every debate. i thought obama destroyed all of his opponents except for that one debate against romney where he took a bunch of horse tranquilizers beforehand. and clinton destroyed trump during all the debates, at least on matters of substance. but that doesn't reflect the conclusions that everyone else drew, and even if it did, that didn't reflect election results.

also, biden pretty handily humiliated paul ryan, fwiw

also, biden pretty handily humiliated paul ryan, fwiw

his indisputably great public momen

Biden was good in the VP debates, I'm not sure why everyone suddenly believes he's going to answer every question with "ME LIKE BOOBS"

biden is going to be genial and say nothing and the majority of the baby boomer dem registered voters are going to like it

Well, Biden was facing substance-free scam artists whom the media were treating like serious people, and wasn’t really being confronted about his own record, more about Obama’s policies.

and what's changed?

That label only applies to 85% of the field now!

pols not answering questions: ALERT THE MEDIA

really hope she got the DNA gaffes outta her system, Warren stans

"A few cunning people who fear progress will try to give you new and strange names for what we're doing. Sometimes they will call it...socialism...But in so doing they are trying to make very complex and feel radical something that is really very simple and very practical" - FDR pic.twitter.com/DKOLhPTrSL

— Zaid Jilani (@ZaidJilani) June 12, 2019

only Biden quote i remember from past debates was the low-hanging fruit reRudy: "a noun, a verb, 9/11"

but that might not have been a debate?

Pro Bernie over here - I don't have a problem with co-opting the word socialism, as its essentially lost al meaning anyway so why not? But yeah I don't think that answer on Chris Hayes clip above was good, too much time spent talking about a term, who cares?

No issue with the repetition in general though. Is it annoying if you're seeing and hearing him every day? Sure! But the people who aren't seeing and hearing him every day are far more important

pols not answering questions: ALERT THE MEDIA

He's had four years to answer this question

isn't bernie's non-answer just standard media training? there are very few ways, maybe none, that he can answer that question that are going to result in him advancing his message, and a lot of ways it could go wrong

yeah but we have it in for him

really hope she got the DNA gaffes outta her system, Warren stans

That was like a year and a half ago. Only you and Trump still remember. Try to keep up.

i wouldn't be so sure that warren (or anyone else) is going to destroy biden during debates. and if she does, i wouldn't be so sure that other people are going to see the same thing that you or anyone else does.

I don't think she's going to go into a debate with Biden looking to "destroy Biden." The videos I've seen of her speeches show her doing a really, really good job of selling her message to the audience, and seeming relatable and appealing on a personal level. I expect her to focus on that, and allow the contrast between her focused, thought-through plans for the future and Biden's hazy dream of comity to be crystal clear all on its own.

Biden was good in the VP debates, I'm not sure why everyone suddenly believes he's going to answer every question with "ME LIKE BOOBS"

― brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, June 14, 2019 2:26 PM (fifty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

might be a big boost to his chances in the general if he did

also I'm laughing out loud every time I look at the phrase "ME LIKE BOOBS" so please just drop me directly into the dumpster

That was like a year and a half ago. Only you and Trump still remember. Try to keep up.

Saw it discussed on CNN literally yesterday.

I don't think Biden really needs Warren to 'destroy' him in the debates, thats a task he is more suited to himself

can see gillibrand attacking biden on his creepiness given her position on al franken

she should, can't hurt

so many ppl in thread saying Warren should stay in the Senate a year ago

yeah well now she shouldnt

I'm struggling to understand Morbs' antipathy to Warren. She has all of Sanders' charisma but with policy positions, great personal charm, isnt 80, and a woman.

she's 70

I realize that unlike the last old white lady Trump beat, this one actually has beliefs, but 6 months of "Pocahontas" may neutralize that.

He's had four years to answer this question

It's an inside-baseball question, only you and Chris Hayes give a shit.

ME LIKE BOOBS

anvil correct me if I'm wrong but you are not a US resident/voter, right?

also m bison otm as usual re: Warren, she's a Senate loss I'm willing to accept, esp in a blue state

my partner is

It's an inside-baseball question, only you and Chris Hayes give a shit.

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Fr

sez the guy who cares about the Pocahontas question

I think Warren is acquitting herself well but I would be happy if she remained my senator

I do care, Alfred, cuz it shows she is capable of tin-eared miscalculation

biden isn't gonna be me like boobs, but i would not put it past him to make a poorly-formed joek about his touchy-feelyness in a debate situation. his inability to read the room on this is pretty fuckin bad

I do care, Alfred, cuz it shows she is capable of tin-eared miscalculation

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, June 14, 2019 11:13 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

where were you the 20,000th time Bernie struck out while answering a question about racism in America?

Spartacist League bake sale iirc

"Folks tell me, Joe, you gotta stop petting the girls, but i just can't help it. Me likey the ladies!"

Silence

"My first wife and daughter were killed in a horrible automobile accident."

Move the Democratic Doomsdy Clock another minute closer to Midnight... https://t.co/swsmQsHtoE

— Jeffrey St. Clair (@JSCCounterPunch) June 15, 2019