The car's on fire and there's no driver at the wheel - The Tory leadership elections

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The Brexit Party isn't especially interested in winning seats, it exists to change the policies of the Tory Party. If Johnson or Raab wins then they've done their job and from then on it's about putting enough electoral pressure on the Tories to ensure they fall in line, but not so much they shred the vote and let Labour in.

― Matt DC,

Yes but what if voters disagree and vote for them in sufficient number? Whats to stop Peterborough repeating?

If Raab or Boris wins have they done their job? Is that enough for them of for their voters? By itself thats meaningless to them

and even if their interest isn't in winning seats, does that change once that becomes a possibility

anvil, Friday, 14 June 2019 09:45 (four years ago) link

Really blurry. Are you saying you stan for the woman who boasted about abusing Diane Abbott AND Diane Abbott?!

I think he means that no one cares when Abbott pals around with Tories she knew as a kid, or goes to the Spectator party or whatever. But there's literally nothing than can be gained by a) encouraging another pile-on on Diane Abbott or b) adding to the total sum of conversation about Jess Phillips in any way.

Matt DC, Friday, 14 June 2019 09:48 (four years ago) link

I'd be impressed if that is what he means.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 14 June 2019 09:57 (four years ago) link

This all started from me pulling a garbage tweet from MLC and he being the only person who put a ridiculous, positive spin on it - and then it turned out he was a fan. He was asked questions as to why he'd go down a road few have travelled and we've yet to get an answer.

Two weeks or so ago he was giving William Empson a run for his money on a reading of a throwaway joke about me 'trolling' Jess Phillips out of the Labour Party, trying to connect that to gutter bullshit from UKIP people.

Forgive me for not quite buying his reasoning on anything whatsoever.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 14 June 2019 10:04 (four years ago) link

Hancock out.

suzy, Friday, 14 June 2019 10:15 (four years ago) link

Will anyone ever notice the inconsequential numpt again? Is what not many people are thinking.

calzino, Friday, 14 June 2019 10:25 (four years ago) link

well, he's had his half hour

Oy McVey (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 June 2019 10:54 (four years ago) link

oof

Captain ACAB (Neil S), Friday, 14 June 2019 10:56 (four years ago) link

this joke brought to you courtesy of Father's Day

Oy McVey (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 June 2019 11:03 (four years ago) link

Like it.

John Harris is a Guardian columnist (Tom D.), Friday, 14 June 2019 11:10 (four years ago) link

I am, for the record, not devoted to MLC qua MLC - I rarely read her articles, and only read her Twitter as a source of news - UK Politics being one of the areas where the idea of ILX as an all-encompassing aggregator falls the fuck down.

That said, people reacting to that tweet as 'omfg the mask is finally off' are clowning themselves, and I am happy to help.

My devotion was a product of / reaction to the inept assassinations - on the one hand some post-Gamergate trash account has a photo not found anywhere else on the internet which may be MLC a decade ago in the pub with people who may or may not be who they claim - and without any irony follows up with the doxing bullshit. A few days before they retweeted that Maria Miller once said something nice about Owen Jones, so that's alright.

The other is just Comrade Alphabet have a stroke (either def).

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 14 June 2019 12:08 (four years ago) link

in tomorrows graun Jess Phillips talks about what a big influence her own book has had on her life - and modesty aside - how hilarious and brilliant it is .. a bit like me etc...

calzino, Friday, 14 June 2019 12:26 (four years ago) link

meant that for the other thread re: Corbz Joyce piece .. but nm!

calzino, Friday, 14 June 2019 12:28 (four years ago) link

Churchill changed party twice iirc (well, once and back) so therefore Chuka is the most Churchillian politician today QED

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 14 June 2019 13:02 (four years ago) link

Also most Mosleyite politician same logic

Oy McVey (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 June 2019 13:07 (four years ago) link

sir shortly floor cross

mark s, Friday, 14 June 2019 13:08 (four years ago) link

My devotion was a product of / reaction to the inept assassinations - on the one hand some post-Gamergate trash account has a photo not found anywhere else on the internet which may be MLC a decade ago in the pub with people who may or may not be who they claim - and without any irony follows up with the doxing bullshit.


A chara...ní hea é.

stress tweeting (gyac), Friday, 14 June 2019 13:12 (four years ago) link

I think dead churchy mainly had his moment because post Munich '38 it was felt that rich big business pols had their time and fucked everything up and he was more of a national candidate, so in that respect a shameless shill like Chuka is quite the opposite of Churchillian!

calzino, Friday, 14 June 2019 13:12 (four years ago) link

the name dead churchy has reminded me that earlier today while editing i discovered what some of you young uns doubtless know, which is there is an irish producer called "famous eno", so not everything is bad not good

mark s, Friday, 14 June 2019 13:18 (four years ago) link

MR famous eno

shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Friday, 14 June 2019 13:21 (four years ago) link

he's great! All Good FM is one of my personal summer classics, but i think maybe 4 other people have ever heard it

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 14 June 2019 13:23 (four years ago) link

The name dead churchy reminds me that Winston Churchill is dead, and that in of itself is good.

stress tweeting (gyac), Friday, 14 June 2019 13:25 (four years ago) link

"That said, people reacting to that tweet as 'omfg the mask is finally off' are clowning themselves, and I am happy to help."

Nobody screamed OMFG. I actually just linked to that pathetic tweet, and there was only a couple of posts on it.

Do get over yourself - and I hope you can find a better source of news.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 14 June 2019 14:53 (four years ago) link

I am clowning myself by *checks notes* wondering whether someone who constantly fawns over Tories might be doing something a bit questionable by hanging out with a pro-apartheid group?

Oh and btw she didn’t doxx the Hillsborough campaigner, but if you’re going to lean on “her address was public!” when a) public in this case didn’t mean on the internet and b) the long and awful history of cops et al surveilling Hillsborough campaigners, then....😬

stress tweeting (gyac), Friday, 14 June 2019 16:38 (four years ago) link

A real person

EXCLUSIVE Grow up and stop calling me the c-word live on air, Jeremy Hunt tells broadcasters  https://t.co/7UiNPLEXeh via @Telegraph

— Christopher Hope📝 (@christopherhope) June 13, 2019

stress tweeting (gyac), Friday, 14 June 2019 17:16 (four years ago) link

further proof that speaking cunt’s true name saps his dark power

Which of the six is Demogorgon?

pomenitul, Friday, 14 June 2019 17:27 (four years ago) link

His two heads have individual minds, called Aameul (the left head) and Hethradiah (the right head). One of Demogorgon's best-kept secrets, even from his cultists and minions, is that his two personas strive to dominate (and even kill) each other, but are unable to because they are aspects of one another. Despite this duality, many of Demogorgon's plots revolve around either permanently separating or uniting these two personas.


Is clearly


Boris Johnson said Britain’s continued membership of the EU would be a “boon for the world and for Europe” in an unpublished newspaper column in which he wrestles with his decision to back or oppose Brexit.
The foreign secretary has since insisted the column was intended merely as a tool for his own thought process, calling it “semi-parodic” in tone.
In a Telegraph article, written days before a published version in which he backed leaving, Johnson wrote of the EU: “This is a market on our doorstep, ready for further exploitation by British firms. The membership fee seems rather small for all that access. Why are we so determined to turn our back on it?”

stress tweeting (gyac), Friday, 14 June 2019 17:36 (four years ago) link

You've swayed me.

pomenitul, Friday, 14 June 2019 17:39 (four years ago) link

the johnson clan look like a david peace nightmare spliced from the dna of jimmy savile and bernard ingram https://t.co/vSu369NfBF

— MT PAGE™ (@theemptypage_) June 14, 2019

calzino, Friday, 14 June 2019 19:52 (four years ago) link

a second weekend of tory drug revelations

mark s, Friday, 14 June 2019 20:00 (four years ago) link

Strong and stable, mate.

John Harris is a Guardian columnist (Tom D.), Friday, 14 June 2019 20:05 (four years ago) link

Are these new drug revelations? Please précis.

suzy, Friday, 14 June 2019 20:08 (four years ago) link

"i bin stoned before"
"the cheese delirium"
"squeezing spongea over policeman's head"

(the last is more a bullingdon thing i think)

mark s, Friday, 14 June 2019 20:11 (four years ago) link

Boris, "I deeply regret my use of camembert".

John Harris is a Guardian columnist (Tom D.), Friday, 14 June 2019 20:11 (four years ago) link

he's great! All Good FM is one of my personal summer classics, but i think maybe 4 other people have ever heard it


Five, I knew there was a reason I read these threads

El Tomboto, Friday, 14 June 2019 22:36 (four years ago) link

Well this has come around again:

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2019/jun/15/nazanin-zaghari-ratcliffe-husband-join-hunger-strike

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 15 June 2019 13:11 (four years ago) link

war is good guys

||||||||, Saturday, 15 June 2019 17:05 (four years ago) link

I am very intelligent

||||||||, Saturday, 15 June 2019 17:05 (four years ago) link

Can't afford to look soft during a Tory leadership race:

Sajid Javid urged to intervene as the Home Office plans to deport a grieving 11-year-old orphan, who has lived here almost all of his life, to a country he doesn't remember https://t.co/VJznKXjGt9

— liane gomersall (@ligomersall) June 15, 2019

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 16 June 2019 08:10 (four years ago) link

jfc maybe we're not killing the right MPs

Oy McVey (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 16 June 2019 08:57 (four years ago) link

Another thing about May is how she has perhaps set new standards for cruelty towards migrants. Others can only match it now.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 16 June 2019 09:11 (four years ago) link

As a first requirement..

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 16 June 2019 09:18 (four years ago) link

srsly anybody who collaborates at any stage in this process i don't know how they can live with themselves

Oy McVey (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 16 June 2019 09:20 (four years ago) link

Totally, just want to burn the home office down.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 16 June 2019 09:23 (four years ago) link

"jfc maybe we're not killing the right MPs"

was listening to some glib rinse earlier on 5live about how we need to be nicer to pols, throwing milkshakes is violence, we've got more in common that than what divides us... zzzzz .. nothing learned from her own sister getting murdered other than we need more "nice" moderates in politics.. hmm let me think how much moderates have done to prevent millions of people having nothing in common or hostile environment.

calzino, Sunday, 16 June 2019 09:26 (four years ago) link

I tell you what, let's all protest about Donald Trump and completely ignore all the shit that's going on in our own backyards.

John Harris is a Guardian columnist (Tom D.), Sunday, 16 June 2019 09:39 (four years ago) link


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