Seizing back control: The ILX lol brexit is how we're all gonna die thread.

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Jokes aside, I can’t see the LDs taking Gapes, Leslie and Ryan over Allen, Berger and Wollaston. Soubry definitely, cos she was a LD originally.

stress tweeting (gyac), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 19:33 (seven years ago)

hello everyone in today's update on regional inequality we will be looking at the UK 2070 Commission, a p establishment group of academics chaired by lord bob kerslake who have recently released a report on rebalancing the economy - http://uk2070.org.uk/2019/05/30/first-report-of-the-uk2070-commission-to-be-published-on-thursday-30th-may-2019/ - and are currently having a symposium in leeds at which a feeling of conviviality and national purpose has allegedly been created by focusing on the unifying topic of 'london is bad'.

although light on asteroid mining plans the report has some interesting stuff on the historic failings of regional development, the perils of bidding processes, some examples of how unequal investment can snowball, the importance of 'spatial strategy' and the odd lack of a national plan for investment or any auditing proces. there are proposals for a national infrastructure bank, possible 'provincial' administration (i.e. breaking england into south east/south west/midlands/north) and some interesting comparisons with other countries esp german planning after reunification.

with all these ideas floating abt it also makes you think something might happen soon

ogmor, Thursday, 13 June 2019 13:43 (seven years ago)

no hipster left rinse about mining asteroids, no cred:p

calzino, Thursday, 13 June 2019 13:48 (seven years ago)

interesting comparisons with other countries esp german planning

haven't read v far yet but the report looks interesting, thank you

def need more regional development and decentralisation but afraid that the press will run with "we shouldn't do it because Germany do it and 2WW&1WC yah boo" or "this is 'federalism' which you already know is bad because the word is associated with the EU so you must therefore hate it"

also please listen to my sixteen-hour lecture about how Oxfordshire is not actually in the southeast even though everyone except me thinks it is

a passing spacecadet, Thursday, 13 June 2019 14:17 (seven years ago)

It's certainly not very east.

John Harris is a Guardian columnist (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 June 2019 14:21 (seven years ago)

does the 16hr lecture consider the notion that oxford is a south-eastern enclave within oxfordshire?

ogmor, Thursday, 13 June 2019 14:26 (seven years ago)

bit of a tricky one, it borders Warwickshire (West Midlands), Berkshire and Buckinghamshire (South East), Gloucestershire (and depending on which map you look at, Wiltshire) (South West) and Northamptonshire (East Midlands)

which one would you put it in?

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 13 June 2019 14:38 (seven years ago)

xp I can't work out if that's true or if it's the other way round, so there may be a few flaws in my analysis here

anyway the southeast can have Henley, I don't want that bit in my personal neo-Wessex

(returns to drawing board to consider how many dimensions to extrude the map into)

a passing spacecadet, Thursday, 13 June 2019 14:41 (seven years ago)

QC twitter showing its arse again

This is also my concern. https://t.co/2hvcZBTni2

— Adam Wagner (@AdamWagner1) June 13, 2019

||||||||, Thursday, 13 June 2019 14:43 (seven years ago)

I saw this, twitter QCs are the fucking worst!

stress tweeting (gyac), Thursday, 13 June 2019 14:49 (seven years ago)

xxp again, I was mostly kidding but aged 1-9 I lived in a boring market town of 6000 people approx 3 miles west of the southwest/southeast border and then moved to a boring market town of 6000 people 3 miles east of it, and you will be very surprised to hear that those two towns are not very different

(yes, that's not really how regions work, I know)

also Winchester hogs most of the credit for Wessex, and Dorset gets some via Thomas Hardy, but southwest Oxfordshire* is quite proud of its Wessex/King Alfred connections too

* which used to be Berkshire, which possibly confuses things even further

a passing spacecadet, Thursday, 13 June 2019 14:53 (seven years ago)

ɪmˈpəʊzɪŋ (darraghmac) wrote this on thread "oh you don't get me I'm the end of the union": lol brexit is how we're all gonna die on board I Love Everything on 11-Feb-2019

boris johnson is big joe joyce and brexit is his youtube channel ouvre

russia is james quinn mcdonagh

i think europe may be the extended joyce clan but it could also serve as the garda allocation for the kilbeggan area in the buildup to a fight

america is, in this metaphor, america

godfellaz (darraghmac), Thursday, 13 June 2019 15:04 (seven years ago)

^^^^ still think this is the only relevant lens thru which we can view events

godfellaz (darraghmac), Thursday, 13 June 2019 15:05 (seven years ago)

The funniest possible event now would be Chuka Umunna not only losing his seat in a byelection but also getting fewer votes than the CD:UK candidate.

— Joe Kennedy (@joekennedy81) June 13, 2019



Then Mike Gapes doing a 'u want picking in the morning' tweet at him.

— Joe Kennedy (@joekennedy81) June 13, 2019



Sorry but yes we do need two active threads!

The MPs who defected to UKIP from the Tories called by elections, surely he must have to call one by now?

stress tweeting (gyac), Thursday, 13 June 2019 21:29 (seven years ago)

Considering the Labour candidate got 62% more of the vote than the Liberal candidate in the last election, I think it's unlikely.

John Harris is a Guardian columnist (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 June 2019 21:33 (seven years ago)

Look, by-elections are the old politics.

Oy McVey (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 13 June 2019 21:55 (seven years ago)

The Streatham MP told the Times he had been "wrong" to think "millions of politically homeless people... wanted a new option on the ballot paper".

Hilarious.

nashwan, Thursday, 13 June 2019 22:01 (seven years ago)

I used to care about the homeless but now... fuck 'em.

John Harris is a Guardian columnist (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 June 2019 22:03 (seven years ago)

All Chuka’s old tweets are resurfacing, you love to see it

Farron wants his pty to be the Opposition but they voted to treble tuition fees,for the Bedroom tax,Tory NHS plans & extreme austerity #Marr

— Chuka Umunna (@ChukaUmunna) April 30, 2017

stress tweeting (gyac), Thursday, 13 June 2019 22:10 (seven years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1139276408851763206/Gltrumiy?format=jpg&name=600x314

chuka and cable offer more definitive evidence that grass doesn't grow on busy roads (nor on fucking concrete either!)

calzino, Thursday, 13 June 2019 22:22 (seven years ago)

uh idk if you're being funny calz but thats obama and john mccain

godfellaz (darraghmac), Thursday, 13 June 2019 22:25 (seven years ago)

it’s Sajid Javid and IDS actually

No no no no no. Please come back Chuka. We've changed. Literally. We're called something else now. Don't ask what because I've already forgotten. Just please come back. Don't leave me here with Mike Gapes. Please.

— Simon Hedges (@Orwell_Fan) June 13, 2019

stress tweeting (gyac), Thursday, 13 June 2019 22:26 (seven years ago)

Chuka's erstwhile Labour colleagues are currently deep in mourning pic.twitter.com/voVKD6vkO8

— Reel Politik podcast (@reel_politcast) June 13, 2019

stress tweeting (gyac), Thursday, 13 June 2019 22:28 (seven years ago)

http://viz.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/014_viz206_vince.jpg

Lol McCain looks more healthy and at ease with himself than Mr evil as fuck Shell villain these days - something weighing heavy on his [arse]soul perhaps?

calzino, Thursday, 13 June 2019 22:36 (seven years ago)

Re: Saj not getting invited to that state banquet

There is something very sad & moving about this exchange 😢
She knows why, he knows why & we know why.
Worrying if foreign countries start telling us who is and isn’t acceptable based on origins and background - @10DowningStreet must clarify why @sajidjavid wasn’t invited https://t.co/kh0oA7UcZE

— Sayeeda Warsi (@SayeedaWarsi) June 13, 2019

stress tweeting (gyac), Friday, 14 June 2019 06:53 (six years ago)

sad & moving

Captain ACAB (Neil S), Friday, 14 June 2019 07:46 (six years ago)

cry for The Saj.

calzino, Friday, 14 June 2019 07:48 (six years ago)

Idly wondering if the Saj is likely to go rogue once his status as useful idiot is confirmed and he realises it himself.

He doesn't seem the type somehow but if Johnson wins his political career is probably over unless Javid wants to keep up the illusion and shred his dignity with a minor Cabinet post.

What do we think of Oliver Letwin's declaration that we've passed the last opportunity for Parliament to prevent No Deal?

Matt DC, Friday, 14 June 2019 07:57 (six years ago)

Nick Boles, another relatively sane Tory, seems to think the same as Letwin. It's a worry, particularly if/when Johnson gets the nod.

Captain ACAB (Neil S), Friday, 14 June 2019 08:07 (six years ago)

What does going rogue look like? I can't see it

anvil, Friday, 14 June 2019 08:09 (six years ago)

I guess doing a Warsi, i.e. complaining from the sidelines that you were sold a lie and that the party you joined isn't willing to address its racism, while being ignored by a party and media establishment that doesn't give a single fuck

Glad to hear that Jess Phillips apparently passively emits an intense anti-racist forcefield that causes Boris Johnson to cower in fear whenever he sees her. Could be a very useful weapon in the coming months, although sadly it appears to have no effect whatsoever on Jacob Rees-Mogg

Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Friday, 14 June 2019 09:28 (six years ago)

there is something profoundly dehumanising abt the increasingly pervasive bureaucratization of society where what matters is no longer what is true but what you can prove. trickling down pressure by removing leeway, judgement and discretion from ppl on the frontline and insisting on paper trails on the basis of accountability and good auditing practice. it's behind low stakes stuff like refusing to serve ppl who are patently in their 20s bc you can't be entirely sure they're not 24 and in deporting ppl you know have lived in britain legally for decades bc they don't have the right document. when ppl's judgement gets undermined like this they end up just casting the net as wide as possible and letting the courts/someone higher up sort it out, as we can see today with the news that over half of home office immigration decisions are overturned on appeal

ogmor, Friday, 14 June 2019 09:32 (six years ago)

xxxp I thought Boles resigned the whip?

stress tweeting (gyac), Friday, 14 June 2019 09:41 (six years ago)

ah yes you're correct! think he has been threatened with deselection too

Captain ACAB (Neil S), Friday, 14 June 2019 09:43 (six years ago)

How does the vote of no confidence that was previously passed in Kate Hoey by her CLP work? Is she any closer to being deselected in the event of an election than she was before it or was it just a non-binding grunt of disapproval?

Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Friday, 14 June 2019 09:56 (six years ago)

non-binding grunt i'm afraid

to remove her as MP, she has to be voted out by the electorate at large, art the next election unless she goes to jail for something lol and there's a by-election

the party can suspend the whip but i think hoey's always been good at staying this side of the rules on that. if/when an election comes, the local party* gets to decide who its standing candidates will be, which is when deselection can come into play (the VONC is a symbolic waystation towards that decision)

*the national party has say also, which is how all the blairites got unhelpfully parachuted into northern seats

mark s, Friday, 14 June 2019 10:12 (six years ago)

He turned up late to the meeting and walked right past the registration desk.
When asked to sign in he instead announced to the room "I'm John McTernan and I'm here to fight trots" 😂 https://t.co/vdrGQU6YTn

— James McAsh (@mcash) June 13, 2019

||||||||, Friday, 14 June 2019 10:20 (six years ago)

xp It can serve as forewarning though - Frank Field got one before going independent, and if I remember correctly Suzy was saying that Chukka heard one coming before ChUK happened.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 14 June 2019 10:24 (six years ago)

the ‘fat left’, it me

RUSSIA’S SEXIEST POKER STAR ELECTROCUTED BY HAIRDRYER (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 14 June 2019 10:25 (six years ago)

can’t believe JT is gazzara shaming

||||||||, Friday, 14 June 2019 10:26 (six years ago)

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/jun/14/the-italian-job-review-michael-caine-noel-coward

And there’s that ending, which outraged me as a 12-year-old. When the credits rolled over the image of the coach half off the cliff edge, I thought it had to be a Pythonesque joke and the real ending would emerge after these fake credits had been wound back. I still think it’s a cheat and a failure of imagination and craftsmanship, though one we’ve all got used to. But the cheek of it undoubtedly helped to nail this movie into the public mind. As that gold bullion tantalisingly slides to the back of the teetering coach, it’s impossible not to think about our £350m, just out of reach."

xyzzzz__, Friday, 14 June 2019 10:37 (six years ago)

Now I've read it through this is good not bad.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 14 June 2019 10:57 (six years ago)

Loses points for shoehorning Brexit into his own interview.

Matt DC, Friday, 14 June 2019 11:10 (six years ago)

“A very great Irish friend of mine told me 15 years or so before the journey that I had to read Ulysses. It was the perfect company on the train journey, which was endless.”

Who was the friend?

I will read later but hope this spurs yet another round of “Corbyn is too thick to understand Ulysses!” truthers 🤞🏻

stress tweeting (gyac), Friday, 14 June 2019 11:11 (six years ago)

And failing to mention the bits of anti-semitism in Ulysses, OBVIOUSLY.

fetter, Friday, 14 June 2019 11:17 (six years ago)

(xp) Bobby Sands

John Harris is a Guardian columnist (Tom D.), Friday, 14 June 2019 11:18 (six years ago)

Joyce isn't cheering on the antisemitism in Ulysses

Oy McVey (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 June 2019 11:19 (six years ago)

sorry, that's obvious, just done a nightshift

Oy McVey (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 June 2019 11:20 (six years ago)


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