Hatred of Itunes

i like smart playlists, just to catalog curiosities like my most played from a certain year or "how many songs are in my library longer than 10 minutes" or "songs with the word 'kill' in the title." I used to use smart playlists to organize music by albums and artists before they developed an album view--now i have dozens of old smart playlists for a single album clogging up my playlist bar that i'm too lazy to delete.

If anything, the smart playlist/filtering features of iTunes are too limited. You cannot quickly/easily drill down multiple criteria without tediously building these rules in the smart playlist editor.

so I'm sure this isn't specific to iTunes but I haven't downloaded an app or application for ages on my Windows 10 laptop. I can either download iTunes as an 'app' from the Microsoft store - which doesn't give me an install file that I can find, or by looking for different versions, as a 'normal' .exe install.

basically what the hell is an 'app' on Windows pc if it's not an application?

I think the Apps on Windows 10 are more lightweight versions of the software that are designed to run on the Universal Windows Platform and so look (and work) the same on various devices - tablets, laptops, phones etc.

Don't use the iTunes one but do have apps for Netflix and BT Sport installed on mine

ah thanks. I don't trust them!

Suddenly IA at iTunes turning every album cover into a RoundRect.

does anyone else still use an iPod? i kind of collect them, tbh, because for many moons i travelled a lot through areas with no connectivity and hated having my phone drained of battery (i will not buy an iPhone, ever).

my 30GB iPod collection (i have four lol) works just fine. don't really understand why anyone would need anything else.

Yes, I have a 128 and it sounds better than my iPhone but convenience won that battle long ago

because of my hatred of iPhones it's never been a problem, i just keep one iPod in the car and a few in the house and swap them around lol.

I use my 80 gb iPod only in the car, I wish I had a spare

i do! but i don't have a phone. i use an 8 gb nano every single day, and i have an old second or third gen 80 gb model, still with a hard drive in it and everything, that i use as a home stereo, attached to a dock. i wish they didn't stop making nanos, it's a perfect device but someday it's going to up and die on me.

tbh, i do a call on social media for them every so often, and friends often just give them to me because they're viewed as garbage. that's how i've accumulated so many.

jesus wept

I use a 160gb ipod for music and will cry when it dies

i am considering finally joining the streaming age, except it turns out what i'm considering streaming is media from my NAS at home. we'll see if i wind up going that route.

Plex is probably your best solution for that, although it’s not perfect.

10 yr old 160gb user here, very alarmed by the thought of it dying.

Left my 10 y/o 160gb behind in a hotel room recently, heartbroken to lose it and also that i'll never know exactly how long it would have lasted under good care.

Siegbran otm about Plex, it's fairly easy to configure and works well for in-house streaming even with my antique iMac as a server (I don't use it to stream outside my LAN).

My 2009 VW has a slot under the center console armrest specifically designed for a classic iPod ... I might have to sell the car when my iPod dies.

My 2013 Honda killed my 160gb iPod. I should've used the audio input, but instead used the USB (in the glove box, for some annoying reason). At random moments, the iPod would freeze when I started the car, and I'd have to power cycle it. It only happened a few times, but that combined with whatever syncing shenanigans were going on (the dash screen displayed artist/title/cover art) apparently damaged the hard drive. When I tried to restore it from my computer, only a random handful of items would sync to it.

I've got a 160 GB which I use all the time. Would really like to get a spare but they're still kind of expensive.

wouldn't mind taking the plunge for the 256GB iPhone one day but it's that damn headphone jack that's stopping me. I know you can get adapters and what not but I just think its dumb, the Bluetooth in the phone I've got goes on and off all the time

battery on my 160gb dies after 20 minutes :(

there’s a whole cottage industry around repairing/upgrading old iPods, so a dead drive or battery isnt necessarily the end:

https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2018/2/22/17039896/ipod-diy-upgrade-battery-memory-hack

I use a 160gb ipod for music and will cry when it dies

― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Sunday, June 16, 2019 10:03 AM (five days ago)

jinx :( :(

noooooooooo

iTunes froze while I was ejecting the pod

manually ejected from the task bar

as soon as I unplugged, the Apple logo came up, and the pod is just rebooting every 4 seconds, never getting past the apple

you tried manually rebooting it? while having it plugged in to power source?

yep, plugged in and not plugged in

Fuck no
It must be saved

Worst case scenario: now is the time when you pay someone to put a 500 GB SSD and new battery in it

update: it has now rebooted completely

...and wiped all of the music on it

not sure if this is worse than it just dying and me shelling out for a non-ipod player

jesus :-(((

(I will still try recovering the files in disk mode, but I need to clear 200gb on my 475gb laptop first, and get a new EHD to back up to, whee)

battery on my 160gb dies after 20 minutes :(

This was happening to me too. I replaced it with a Sony NW-A45 digital Walkman and have been extremely pleased.

will still try recovering the files in disk mode

oh god even if this works I've lost all my playcounts and playlists that manage them

Sony NW-A45 digital Walkman

maximum of 48gb?

No. It takes a micro sd card and those come in up to 400GB now

Up to 48GB is just the built in memory

The NWZ-A17 one is my go to player now - it is NOT as good an interface as an iPod classic but great sound, great battery life and the mammoth size of modern micro sd cards makes up for it

Basically my classical library goes on the Walkman and everything else goes on the 160gb Classic

Which is rockboxed - I have not used iTunes to load music onto my iPod for years

ah, ta - specs said 16gb built in, and that it took SD card, which I was taking to mean a standard card

if there was an mp3 player that could sync playlists and play counts to iTunes I'd be all in on it

Huh, there’s software that will do that for Android phones, surprised there isn’t for the Sony.

My recent phone purchase should cover me when my 160gb classic dies on me. I went with the 512gb galaxy s10, which will be my main mp3 player at some point. But that also means I'll probably have to find a new database soon.

not iTunes, but this is the sort of scenario that bugs me the fuck out and the main reason why i don't trust a lot of these platforms for purchasing or even streaming media.

https://gizmodo.com/ebooks-purchased-from-microsoft-will-be-deleted-this-mo-1836005672?_ga=2.42903392.418273563.1561997751-2390524635.1521508273

don't trust a lot of these platforms

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I had a bunch of tracks that were renamed to Grouping-like values – I assumed file corruption but there is a hidden metadata field since I think 2017, 'Work Name', which is meant to deal with classical music better. You can only get to it to edit it by clicking a little arrow next to 'song' under 'Details' when you get info on one track.

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7846590
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7852053

This is a fix - in iTunes 12.5 Apple introduced support for “Work” (TIT1) tag which is used for classical music tagging, but it had already used this TIT1 field for its “Grouping” tag.

So from v12.5 onwards, iTunes writes the Grouping tag into a new GRP1 field, however that means that for mp3 files tagged in previous iTunes versions what was previously Grouping now appears as Work.

Fixing it is a simple one time operation, go to the Songs view, select the columns Work and Grouping, populate the Grouping tag, and (mass) clear the Work tag.

anyone have any luck correcting a problem where an ipod which has been manually synced in the past mounts with the 'sync music' preference unchecked, so that it can't be newly synced unless you first rewrite it with a new selection of music (even if that selection is identical to what's already on it)?

i use two ipods which mostly receive different contents from one computer/library, and it seems that this has something to do with one or both of the ipods occasionally becoming un-syncable. but i recently switched to catalina/music app and it seems that the problem has only become constant rather than occasional.

the problem seems like it should be quite common but i've never had any luck funding advice about it on the web.