Seizing back control: The ILX lol brexit is how we're all gonna die thread.

Jeremy Corbyn raised his voice at Wes Streeting, told him to be quiet after he brought up the EHRC investigation

— Hannah Al-Othman (@HannahAlOthman) June 10, 2019

Just highlighting that one

Further down the thread it says he told him to let him finish, which is less interesting.

You can only scream at a child for so long.

this review of aaron bastani's fully automated luxury communism makes it sound even more absurd than expected

https://theecologist.org/2019/may/29/climate-communism-and-age-affluence

― ogmor, Monday, June 10, 2019 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Was reading this earlier today - its sorta interesting how much of this "faith in technology" is there across an awful lot of thinking on the left - bearing very little fruit. No doubt there has to be some role to technology (partly because its a thing we do, we'll invariably come up with a way of decomposing plastic and more efficient ways to desalinate water), but there's just so much guff about (I was aware of Inventing the Future as well but it sort of went under the radar, maybe because Srnicek comes across reasonably on twitter, good to see the author just lumping it all in).

this review made BBB’s book sound alright. I’m skeptical mind
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/may/29/fully-automated-luxury-communism-aaron-bastani-review

same reviewer in 2012:

But having read it, I can safely say that Britannia Unchained has a brevity, pace and scope that elevates it a little above the usual pre-party-conference polemics.

is there that much techno-optimism on the left, broadly speaking? generally I see a lot more effort spent on suspicion towards technocrats than the wide-eyed approach to the possibilities of technology taken apparently taken by Bastani

xp

I see it come up often enough. I guess FALC came up as a thing because consumption in some way 'won' so dialing the whole thing down, actively shutting down the stuff that is burning the planet to a crisp is seen as too much moralising. FALC is harmless enough at the moment, but it will need some serious talking down to, otherwise "Green New Deal" is just Paris Accord Mark II.

I see Tom Gann is writing a book and I expect it to have none of it and to take in a lot of the far left critique of Labour (whilst being active in the Labour Party, to keep those plates spinning).

I guess I mostly see FALC used as a kinda-jokey slogan and not as a genuine political program. I think most people who throw it around assume that an uninterrupted future of thoughtless consumption is not really feasible. But this is just my guess.

Its kinda jokey in its expression but behind it there's a lot that seems like a cover for "ok after austerity is rolled back and we screw landlords all well and good, now how do we fix this other stuff hmm"

Reading Andy Beckett's review makes me think that it needed better jokes (reading the Gravel teens piece yesterday confirmed that the US left have better jokes by miles)

I'd be interested in hearing any further reports of that meeting - if Corbyn saying "please don't criticise staff" is really all he said about Prescott and Willsman, that's pretty appalling.

lol suspect further reports may be forthcoming yes

Someone @ Guardian please supply ilx with transcript.

Yet another great find courtesy of Whitechapel Library. pic.twitter.com/hm8Xw6xY9Z

— Greggs Truther (@invisibleste) June 11, 2019

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8x-60oXYAA0bBd.jpg

lol, bootiful.

how can poor dilettante authors like Brucey compete with the honeyed classicism of Cable and Cambell (sounds like some publishing firm).

Another review of Bastano:

https://www.ebb-magazine.com/essay-reviews/2019/6/11/fully-automated-luxury-communism

the most positive thing I can say about the book is that I don’t doubt that it will be Elon Musk’s favourite book of 2019 – and he’ll tweet about it as he prevents his workers from unionising

oof

lool! and the recurring criticiss that much of it reads like silicon valley pr.

criticism

Interesting/more substantial report on regional funding from a group called Communities in Charge suggesting a plan for the govt's proposed post-Brexit 'Shared Prosperity Fund', which is supposed to make up for lost EU funding to regions. Summary here full report here

This is supposed to be administered largely by combined authorities and LEPs (with the suggested addition of citizens panels) and 'community-led partnerships' (not local authorities). All of this highlights the long-running constitutional crisis around regional government in the country which is massively complicating everything

This is good

Labour has tabled a cross-party motion for tomorrow that would hand control of the parliamentary agenda on Tues 25 June to prevent a future Prime Minister proroguing Parliament to force through a no-deal Brexit against the will of Parliament. pic.twitter.com/oG4URZok9C

— Labour Whips (@labourwhips) June 11, 2019

How will that motion be worded, I wonder.

It is so obvious that the UK needs a party/alliance in which Rory Stewart, Jo Swinson, Mike Gapes, Luciana Berger, Jess Phillips, Dominic Grieve, old Uncle Keir Starmer and all can make an appeal to the voters. The need for it is yelling at us, desperately.

— David Aaronovitch (@DAaronovitch) June 11, 2019

My Twitter feed is all messed up and it's making Simon Hedges' tweets appear with different names above them.

— Jonny (@mynnoj) June 11, 2019

Poor Chuka.

you only get one shot at centrist idol, once you fuck up you are truly history!

At this stage I am willing to be governed by a benevolent dictatorship led jointly by Lorraine Kelly and Gary Lineker. https://t.co/MECOOgIuhP

— Wes Streeting MP (@wesstreeting) June 11, 2019

What is it with these people? If you're going to live in a fantasy world at least pick a good one.

Needs to do less tweeting

oh that's a different vid. Lol if only every pol trading on sectarian bigotry was as nice a tory as Ruth D is says very wealthy person with penchant for elaborate tax avoidance schemes. Yeah i reckon her and Lineker would be hellbent on eternal austerity.

With Tories calling for "Proroguing" (suspending) Parliament to force thru Brexit, a reminder they got the idea from an ex-Tory SpAd who is so right wing he thought David Cameron was promoting the “cultural Marxist agenda of the Frankfurt School” https://t.co/ekfFHYMIfF pic.twitter.com/zCb2MO1N77

— Solomon Hughes (@SolHughesWriter) June 11, 2019

the former special adviser guy Gerald Warner, who gave JRM the "Proroguing" of parliament idea is so far to the bizarre end of the right wing spectrum, like P Hitch he thinks Cameron was a lefty Blairite cultural marxist and all dat stuff!

I see pmqs is on today. It’s been so long since I watched it that I might check it out even though there’s 99% chance it’s the same old shit. Going to be even worse when you have Boris in situ.

Hmm but maybe if Rory gets elected we might cancel PMQs as he'll be on a walking tour.

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Sadly I think your ambulent fave doesn’t stand a chance (even if this poll is a load of shit)

why does Boris Johnson, the largest leadership candidate, not simply eat the other candidates pic.twitter.com/GiDjpyxdrS

— James (@Gilofthepeople) June 11, 2019

don't talk to me or my moderate son ever again pic.twitter.com/15AU3yY6p8

— James (@Gilofthepeople) June 11, 2019

Ambulant, even, ffs.

he's Going Home in a fucking ambulanceas a very ambulant mp who's never going to be pm!

tomorrow’s vote ought to pass – it requires just three Conservative rebels to defeat the government, and the number of MPs who have consistently rebelled to prevent a no-deal Brexit is significantly larger than that.

Keunssberg reckons that bill isn't a slam dunk. S Bush reckons it has a good chance + there will be severe pressure from Labour whips on MPs that have spoken about opposing it and if it passes it could be the first step to an early election.

The previous attempt at this (the Cooper bill) only passed by 1 vote, so it'll probably be at best close.

We all know what happens now. That poll will be correct for about two months after Johnson becomes PM - conveniently coinciding with the summer recess. Riding high on a wave of euphoria and bad Labour headlines, Johnson calls an election at the Tory Party conference, which they promptly lose.

handing the sticky bag to Labour with ~1 month to figure out a new Brexit. it could almost work out for them

maybe they could vote for the may deal if they rebranded it the labour deal

The lol boris legend vote hasn't disappeared, and coukd be a potent coalition with the brexit o muerto bloc (venn diagram on the positions admittedly a tightish one) in the short term

The previous attempt at this (the Cooper bill) only passed by 1 vote, so it'll probably be at best close.

Honestly wondering what would have happened to Boris if TM hadn’t put him in her cabinet.

Ambulant, even, ffs.

― stress tweeting (gyac), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ambient fave

Outgoing UK diplomat slams ‘chaotic politics’ and Brexit ‘shambles’

Wightman also likened the damage to Britain's reputation in the last three years to the battle known as the Fall of Singapore in 1942.

"It transformed their view of British imperialism," he added. "Things were never the same again. The last three years have done the same for Singaporeans’ view of contemporary Britain. The nation they admired for stability, common sense, tolerance and realism grounded in fact, they see beset by division, obsessed with ideology, careless of the truth, its leaders apparently determined to keep on digging.

Rory Stewart has a promising future making BBC travel documentaries; Michael Portillo might once again lose his safe seat.

😍

would it help or hinder rory stewart's chances if the media referred to him by his real name rod stewart

Johnson says the economy is achieving Grand Prix speeds without firing on all cylinders.

He says it is important to unite the country. Parts of the UK feel left behind. We need better infrastructure. Spain has much better hi-speed broadband. Leeds has no metro rail. This is madness, he says.

Lol, christ this fucking guy. There's an awful inevitability to all this though isn't there?

You can build all the metro rails you want there, it's still Leeds

It's like he wants to be the Mayor of the UK

Garden bridges for all!