Seizing back control: The ILX lol brexit is how we're all gonna die thread.

a coalition of erm.. disarray.

oh good

Foreign Secretary and Conservative leadership candidate @Jeremy_Hunt says he would like to see the legal time limit on abortions reduced from 24 weeks to 12. #Ridge

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— Ridge on Sunday (@RidgeOnSunday) June 9, 2019

Fancy a media class made up of gap yahs not knowing what a bhang lassi is?

Something something something dogs.

lol

Ach well we didnae win, but my god this is not a moment I'll forget in a hurry (watch 'til the end 😂)! So proud of you @ScotlandNT ♥ 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 #OurGirlsOurGame #SWNT #ENGSCO pic.twitter.com/jZIVK7wGit

— Brenna (@brennajessie_) June 9, 2019

"Is anyone filming this and can I get in the shot?"

A pro Brexit, Anti NATO, pro Putin, antisemitic Corbyn government elected by less than 30% of those who vote, would be an extremist threat to our prosperity, national security and international relations. https://t.co/KhoTJIcEzf

— Mike Gapes (@MikeGapes) June 10, 2019

Change UK MP questions the legitimacy of Labour Party support

this review of aaron bastani's fully automated luxury communism makes it sound even more absurd than expected

https://theecologist.org/2019/may/29/climate-communism-and-age-affluence

this is what happens when you ignore the 'gay' and 'space parts' of 'fully automated luxury gay space communism', smdh aaron

In the FALC manifesto, there is little need for a critical analysis of capitalist social relations—Marx’s project—because communism will arrive automatically, through the acceleration of the logic of capitalist production, backed by state power.

this seems... absurd in the extreme

With a steady patter of quotes from CEOs, the tone is often less manifesto than marketing brochure for SpaceX and other “disruptive” corporations.

it will end up in the fully automated pulping machine of history...

xxp oh there's plenty of space in there

the idea that mining asteroids for immense wealth will somehow automatically make everyone rich as opposed to just extending the gap between the haves and have-nots even further is patently ridiculous

it's like he's never read any kim stanley robinson at all

are these space mining crafts going be ones that can escape the earths gravity with electric motors or rockets that burn huge amounts of fossil fuel? mind you when communism has arrived it'll only take a couple of 5 year plans to sort it!

guys i've just solved brexit: we leave europe, fine, whatever - it won't matter because we become the richest nation in history by building a space elevator and taxing everything that travels on it

how do i shot becoming prime minister

this weekend the french media was reporting that Boris Johnson threatened again not to pay the "divorce bill" and le monde commentators were again like ok then we'll just have our border guards stop restricting migrants from crossing into the uk, figure that will get the idiots' attentions quickly.

did we talk about this washington post piece from over the weekend btw? v cool, good stuff

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo weighed in on British politics during a closed-door meeting with Jewish leaders, saying he would not wait for Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn to become prime minister of Britain to “push back” against him or any future actions he might take against Britain’s Jews.

Pompeo also criticized Britain’s Conservative Party leaders, saying the heavy losses they suffered during the European Parliament elections demonstrated “an absolute failure of leadership.”

The remarks, which are contained in audio of a private meeting leaked to The Washington Post, make Pompeo the second senior U.S. official to comment on Britain’s turbulent leadership succession in the past week.

During his meeting with Jewish leaders in New York, Pompeo was asked if Corbyn “is elected, would you be willing to work with us to take on actions if life becomes very difficult for Jews in the U.K.?”

In response, Pompeo said, “It could be that Mr. Corbyn manages to run the gantlet and get elected. It’s possible. You should know, we won’t wait for him to do those things to begin to push back. We will do our level best,” he said to fervent applause from attendees.

“It’s too risky and too important and too hard once it’s already happened,” he said.

Jen Williams leading the charge w/ a bunch of northern papers campaigning for more devolution of powers. nothing new, not much talk of any democratic oversight but it's becoming A Thing at least

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/power-up-north-closing-north-16402098

they do have this sweet map of life expectancy which you should be able to work out without a key

https://i2-prod.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/incoming/article16347848.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/1_Life1.jpg

lol, in that bastani book review he said Mason.

can't find any margin betting on the imminent dissolution of the capitalist system at Bet Fred at all :( reckon he's full of shit tbh.

reckon Corbyn/McD will be shitting it over prospect of some old corpulent sweaty-faced republican no-one in UK has heard of imploring them to vote for Boris/whatever head-banger wins it.

S Bush otm on Boris tax cut. It won't buy him many friends who don't even need the money and disgracefully it is the same amount (£9.5bn) that these arseholes have already taken off the schools budget which has caused them political pain on their own patches. he's a fucking idiot.

Labour press have already given some pushback on Pompeo, obviously. Of course, Pompeo is one of those Rapture-ready Christian Zionists so it’s arguable he presents the real threat to diaspora Jewish people...

I read Boris's tax cut proposal as nothing other than a naked play to the Tory membership, wouldn't surprise me if no thought has gone into GE strategy at all

Other alternative is he wants to go full culture war but my best guess is "secure the leadership, secure hard Brexit" is almost his entire focus and that of his backers

great when someone can propose a major policy change aimed at winning over 50000 people to further his own career. not that it would be guaranteed to get through parliament anyway.

imagine talking about the future with bastani and mason after taking some bong rips?

imagine doing the same after no bong rips :|

wat if bong rips in falc

asteroid hollowed out in2 giant bong lol

what if we kissed in falc

this review made BBB’s book sound alright. I’m skeptical mind
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/may/29/fully-automated-luxury-communism-aaron-bastani-review

thread about tonight’s plp meeting, the names that pop up itt will not surprise you!

From 1922 to PLP... it looks like a pretty packed meeting. Jeremy Corbyn is speaking tonight.

— Hannah Al-Othman (@HannahAlOthman) June 10, 2019

bobson dugnutt speak out against the leader again?

Jeremy Corbyn raised his voice at Wes Streeting, told him to be quiet after he brought up the EHRC investigation

— Hannah Al-Othman (@HannahAlOthman) June 10, 2019

Just highlighting that one

Further down the thread it says he told him to let him finish, which is less interesting.

You can only scream at a child for so long.

this review of aaron bastani's fully automated luxury communism makes it sound even more absurd than expected

https://theecologist.org/2019/may/29/climate-communism-and-age-affluence

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Was reading this earlier today - its sorta interesting how much of this "faith in technology" is there across an awful lot of thinking on the left - bearing very little fruit. No doubt there has to be some role to technology (partly because its a thing we do, we'll invariably come up with a way of decomposing plastic and more efficient ways to desalinate water), but there's just so much guff about (I was aware of Inventing the Future as well but it sort of went under the radar, maybe because Srnicek comes across reasonably on twitter, good to see the author just lumping it all in).

this review made BBB’s book sound alright. I’m skeptical mind
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/may/29/fully-automated-luxury-communism-aaron-bastani-review

same reviewer in 2012:

But having read it, I can safely say that Britannia Unchained has a brevity, pace and scope that elevates it a little above the usual pre-party-conference polemics.

is there that much techno-optimism on the left, broadly speaking? generally I see a lot more effort spent on suspicion towards technocrats than the wide-eyed approach to the possibilities of technology taken apparently taken by Bastani

xp

I see it come up often enough. I guess FALC came up as a thing because consumption in some way 'won' so dialing the whole thing down, actively shutting down the stuff that is burning the planet to a crisp is seen as too much moralising. FALC is harmless enough at the moment, but it will need some serious talking down to, otherwise "Green New Deal" is just Paris Accord Mark II.

I see Tom Gann is writing a book and I expect it to have none of it and to take in a lot of the far left critique of Labour (whilst being active in the Labour Party, to keep those plates spinning).

I guess I mostly see FALC used as a kinda-jokey slogan and not as a genuine political program. I think most people who throw it around assume that an uninterrupted future of thoughtless consumption is not really feasible. But this is just my guess.

Its kinda jokey in its expression but behind it there's a lot that seems like a cover for "ok after austerity is rolled back and we screw landlords all well and good, now how do we fix this other stuff hmm"

Reading Andy Beckett's review makes me think that it needed better jokes (reading the Gravel teens piece yesterday confirmed that the US left have better jokes by miles)

I'd be interested in hearing any further reports of that meeting - if Corbyn saying "please don't criticise staff" is really all he said about Prescott and Willsman, that's pretty appalling.

lol suspect further reports may be forthcoming yes

Someone @ Guardian please supply ilx with transcript.

Yet another great find courtesy of Whitechapel Library. pic.twitter.com/hm8Xw6xY9Z

— Greggs Truther (@invisibleste) June 11, 2019

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8x-60oXYAA0bBd.jpg

lol, bootiful.

how can poor dilettante authors like Brucey compete with the honeyed classicism of Cable and Cambell (sounds like some publishing firm).

Another review of Bastano:

https://www.ebb-magazine.com/essay-reviews/2019/6/11/fully-automated-luxury-communism