Seizing back control: The ILX lol brexit is how we're all gonna die thread.

Yeah in the circs Labour could have been pummelled

Turnout was 20% lower. By-election factors come into play.

Yet again, Labour's membership should get all the credit.

Wonder if there could still be a general election. A new Tory leader who goes no deal may get a lot of Brexit Party votes (be interesting whether Johnson could be trusted to deliver by that somewhat volatile section of the voters). xp

I stayed up for the result last night and BXP trolls were Tweeting about the ‘Pakistani’ vote from the moment it looked like they’d lost. Fuck them. Those are British people and they include the parents of a few of my friends.

With this kind of electoral maths, there is no way the Tories can risk an election before Brexit happens in some form or another. Despite the national percentage polls and the constant Corbyn narratives in the media, under FPTP the Tory vote split with the Brexit Party is much more significant than Labour’s with the Lib Dem’s / Greens. An election before Brexit is likely to end up with a Labour plus SNP government.

Lol run it past me again how this surprise win in a marginal constituency where their previous mp had gone to prison, is a bad result for labour

Worth saying that with just about any voting system in use today that is not first-past-the-post, this would have been an easy win for the Brexit Party

j Phillips saying this result "shows that antisemitism is becoming normal in the party"??

Remember the time she spoke out about Pakistani men “importing” brides and she still has the whip?

good job the previous Peterborough mp was a "good criminal" and not a nonce tho, that would have been a peado-bridge too far!

Compare and contrast (20 marks)

The Birmingham Yardley MP said: “Lisa ignored and endorsed anti-Semitic things, I’ll take her explanation and apology at face value and look forward to her proving, as others have, that actions not excuses alone can heal.

“But with every case the parties values chip away and our ability to stand up against hate erodes.”

she laments that Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn did not broker a deal so that Champion could stay because "it makes it look like we sweep this stuff under the carpet and it gives more power to people who go, 'It's political correctness gone mad' and that people like me are trying to protect the perpetrators".

What an egomaniac.

the only way forward for her is for her to get her own weekly tv show where she is her own guest every week.

or a comedy drama about her gritty working class upbringing on the mean streets of *checks notes* Solihull

it's almost like every stance she takes is purely based on careerist self-interest and she is completely devoid of a moral compass...

remember when our insipid state broadcaster decided to pump lots of smoke up the arse of a useless corporate shill of a politician who was very brave for sometimes making racist pronouncements?

you're going to need to be more specific

just hating on Jess still! Who the bbc have apparently commissioned a series on her "gritty" middle class upbringing.

lol i was jking (kind of)

the bbc did that 2017 drama about May that disappeared without a trace because I think it wasn't from a pissing away a majority in election'17 pov. And the famous Skinnock dies of embarrassment doc. They are always betting on the wrong horses recently.

I don't want to do a Deems here but funny how sub-50% turnout is less of an issue when it delivers the result you want.

wouldn't that be average for a by-election though?

I did mention the lower by-election turnout :)

the usual assumption, though it's hardly cast-iron, is that the higher the turnout= the better for labour.

Although that assumption might not withstand rigourous scrutiny as i say

also lol why wd i bother making excuses when my side wins

Here is another egomaniac:

Just spoke to @LBCLondonNews about the remarkable result in Peterborough. Here’s my take on what it might tell us about the current state of politics and some raw honesty about why I wasn’t there this week...

— Wes Streeting MP (@wesstreeting) June 7, 2019

baby i like it raw

Be interesting to know how many Tory voters just stayed at home...

Probably not as many as Labour voters.

The last MP went to prison, that would tend to depress enthusiasm for the party they represented, you would think.

Good judeinlondon thread calling Wes out for his hierarchy of racism - apparently he’s happy to campaign for candidates who dogwhistle about Muslims.

I agree it's a good result, one more Labour bum on a seat, and a leg cramp in the BP's march to glory. And the larger majority is more impressive considering the by-election sized turnout.

It's a weird election in a few ways - any by-election is a little odd, it's the BP's first test, it's the first ever recall election (the petition needs 10% of the electorate to kick in, but it got 27.6%!).

It's interesting that the expected Tory decimation didn't happen - on the one hand the expected implication of this would be that the Tory parts tacks towards the BP to win some of their vote - but it's not clear how much more it could do - possibly it'll hoover up more when it elects a head-banger next month.

Gone down by more than enough.

The Tory voters could be staying at home because Brexit is just hoovering up all their energies and doesn't allow them to offer anything else - which Corbyn just hasn't allowed for under his leadership of Labour. Still only one of a number of issues for them.

Corbyn hasn't even allowed himself to have a clear opinion about brexit and what the fuck to do now tbf

It's not up to him to do anything about it.

He's highly representative of the party and wider public in this respect

Yeah, an extremely foggy "mmm, suppose it has to happen, plz to do it w-out crashing economy kthx" attitude like that coming from the labour front bench probably is pretty much the centre ground here. Not that occupying the centre ground is necessarily any good.

I'd argue it's politically impossible to deliver that right now though, but then all courses of action feel politically impossible right now.

I'd missed the controversy around the Labour candidate and how stupid can these people be to just keep clicking Like on things without reading properly? She's either an antisemite or an idiot and neither is particularly edifying.

Couple things..

Union activist Lisa Forbes retained the constituency for Labour, taking 31% of the vote and beating the Brexit Party's Mike Greene (29%) by 683 votes.

◾Turnout was 48.4%, down from 67.5% in the 2017 general election, when Labour beat the Tories by 607 votes

So, turnout was lower, and the Labour candidate won with a slightly increased majority?

Also, how many voters thought they were voting for Mike Brexite of the Green party?

I don't want to do a Deems here but funny how sub-50% turnout is less of an issue when it delivers the result you want.

She's either an antisemite or an idiot and neither is particularly edifying.

Also xps to Suzy but that is a good thread about Streeting

This is good:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/07/seven-reasons-labour-won-the-peterborough-byelection?CMP=share_btn_tw

Funny how brexit party spokesperson sounds ever so slightly bitter that the tory campaign was strong and their votes held up well.

The latter I would say, unedifying social media likes are I think one of those things where it’s easy to share and like something clearly dodge without thinking too much about it.

Yeah, I mean, I've been guilty of smashing that like button on a giant text post because the first few paragraphs seem right-on or whatever. Not doing that is certainly something that should go into pol-on-social-media 101 by now tho.

That ap photo with a blurry Forbes in the foreground as the photographer focuses on the thumbs down reaction of the fash cunt who lost could be one for the most 2019 image thread

Tories benefited from not having a leader - they were able to present a variety of positions to different groups.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/123AC/production/_107286647_9c1384df-66d2-4cd9-9428-db20e7d0b67b.jpg

Absolutely spot on and bl**dy brilliant!! Cold War Steve wins the internet for today!

"I've not worked to such a specific brief before," explains Spencer, "my work is usually pretty free-flowing - but for this one I had to bear in mind the primary audience is not British and they're not going to know who Sam Allardyce is or some minor actors on Coronation Street.

"I think in one of the early drafts I put a sleeping Alan Brazil on the back of the bus and they circled it and said 'who is this?'.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-48547558

not a fan of time magazine but that is class 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Is that Geldof with the mic?