Seizing back control: The ILX lol brexit is how we're all gonna die thread.

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not sure you could attribute the TV appearance to a downturn in Nick Griffin's fortunes but rather being outflanked by a new wave of fascists with better PR

specific goats my way (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 08:36 (seven years ago)

I'd fully respect LBD if they put up a "I've seen molluscs with more sentience and intelligence than you thick as fuck sub-human plebeians - stop voting and kill yourselves" poster at a prominent spot in Hartlepool.

calzino, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 08:37 (seven years ago)

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/5d21220b158e7682b73d8d80a9cd518e8f7c9979/0_0_5760_3840/master/5760.jpg?width=860&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=8a026a91a7e0552efdab59bdfafc6260

'he didn't tweet it, he actually said it!' which is er why we presented it as a tweet for some reason i dunno willthisdo

Aspen Jortstein (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 08:40 (seven years ago)

the thing that's really fucking awful about the uss john s mccain stuff is that mccain was an genuine monster who did more actual damage to america (including incinerating a bunch of his crewmates on an aircraft carrier in vietnam!) than trump has managed so far, so using him as a way to troll trump is... problematic imo

Aspen Jortstein (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 08:46 (seven years ago)

That's a bit far - as far as I'm aware John McCain has nominated 0 judges to the Supreme Court, for a start.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 08:51 (seven years ago)

jfc that was embarrassing and it sort of highlights for me how lots of shitty professional politicians who are terrible right wing creatures themselves, can become heroes for a day by saying rude things to the wiggy KKK man.

calzino, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 08:54 (seven years ago)

arguably trump wouldn't be in office if it wasn't for mccain legitimising the idiot wing of the gop by running sarah palin for vp

Aspen Jortstein (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 08:56 (seven years ago)

They set up a crowdfunding appeal with a target of £10,000. It was reached within three hours. “We increased it to £50,000, and we’d hit that by the next morning,” said Stewart. By the middle of last week, they had raised £438,704...

A 40x20 metre banner, weighing 160kg, was made in just five days at a cost of £12,000. Hiring a helicopter for an hour to photograph it cost another £5,000...

brexit is the ultimate grift

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Buy yourselves a one way ticket to Barbados and forget this rainy fascist island you are rich now.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 08:58 (seven years ago)

I don't care how many £millions this will cost, it needs to be done.

Nothing will make Trump cringe more than seeing George W Bush projected on to the surface of the Moon. pic.twitter.com/1Oy3EYXHLk

— Simon Hedges (@Orwell_Fan) June 4, 2019

calzino, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 09:05 (seven years ago)

Hedges nails it again, satirical cartoonist Matt are you listening

Captain ACAB (Neil S), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 09:06 (seven years ago)

Strange that Nick Griffin was part of the 1%.

Maybe in a reality where the BNP’s share of the vote didn’t rise afterwards, and where people aren’t using his arguments about “culture” that he was putting out there 18 years ago. It’s like Trump - people discounted him cos he was weird looking but are willing to make excuses for people making the same arguments in more media-friendly packages...

gyac, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 09:42 (seven years ago)

Santa: What would you like for Christmas, lad?
Boris: A Great Deal...
Santa: Forget it (opens lap, Boris drops to floor)

Mark G, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 10:03 (seven years ago)

Going to be haunted by the image of Santa “opening his lap” now

gyac, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 10:19 (seven years ago)

lol! I was having problems thinking Santa might be a catholic priest.

calzino, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 10:21 (seven years ago)

c'mon kids, let's take a trip to lapland

Aspen Jortstein (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 10:22 (seven years ago)

Hard to imagine (and indeed prove) Griffin on QT made a real difference to the BNP vote share in either direction (complaints of bias against him vs the sheer incompetence of his performance) unlike Farage subsequently (who today did the inevitable whataboutery re Widdecombe and Muslims who are homophobic).

nashwan, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 10:30 (seven years ago)

to go back to a 2-hour-old conversation, I am all for reminding people that various Brexity types a) would quite like to see the NHS sold off and b) said lots of things pre-ref which contradict the current "we survived WWII" No Deal = One True Brexit orthodoxy

it's just that Led By Donkeys don't seem (to me) to be very good at it

they pick equivocal/ambiguous quotes and lay them out in that ugly and confusing fake-tweet fashion with not much attribution, and their zingers with "what changed" in tiny text underneath just have an old quote about sunlit uplands and best ever deals without spelling out the contradictions so I dunno if it achieves any more than passers-by going "yeah sunlit uplands, renegotiate best ever deal while still planning for No Deal, I'm up for that" - or just ignoring it because boring white-background politics text, zzz

a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 10:33 (seven years ago)

xp That said I did meet an elderly inlaw (at the time) who admitted to 'protest-voting' for them before 2015. He was curiously keen to let me in on this.

nashwan, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 10:34 (seven years ago)

People who think or argue that Nick Griffin going on Question Time killed the BNP 🚮

Nick Griffin went on Question Time in Autumn 2009

Here are the votes the BNP got in the two general elections either side of that

2005 GE: 192,745 votes
2010 GE: 564,331 votes

Hope this helps

— Matt Zarb-Cousin (@mattzarb) August 2, 2018



Once you have someone like him on QT, you are tacitly admitting those views into the mainstream.

gyac, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 10:35 (seven years ago)

Also, the tweet format is doubly strange considering most people in the UK aren’t on twitter (and idk why “they actually said it” is such a point they felt worth making? White guys from N16, I guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯) and the John McCain thing was respectability politics at its finest.

gyac, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 10:47 (seven years ago)

Dunno if it's respectability politics so much, I don't get the "now there was a man you could respect!" thing you get from US libs so much in this, it's more that they neither know nor care who John McCain was, it's just a puerile "tiny hands!" thing to them.

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 10:55 (seven years ago)

it's like an idea that got rejected as even too lame for the infinitely lame John Oliver show.

calzino, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 11:00 (seven years ago)

This was definitely a thing that happened when he died though!

gyac, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 11:00 (seven years ago)

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/trump-uk-state-visit-protest-blimp-robot-toilet-queen-theresa-may-a8943141.html

This is quite good as a rationale for the march

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 11:47 (seven years ago)

robot toilet queen

mark s, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 11:53 (seven years ago)

im a monarchist now

mark s, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 11:53 (seven years ago)

5 resignations from change uk expected later

nxd, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 12:41 (seven years ago)

that's not resignations that's a whole breakaway party

wake me up when we get to Biffy Clyro (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 12:43 (seven years ago)

nothing like schismatics for schisms

Captain ACAB (Neil S), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 12:44 (seven years ago)

truly the mold has been broken

wake me up when we get to Biffy Clyro (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 12:44 (seven years ago)

Banter heuristic demands Chuka throws his hat in the ring for the Tory leadership

wake me up when we get to Biffy Clyro (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 12:46 (seven years ago)

Reckon it's the Change Tories who are walking tbh.

John Harris is a Guardian columnist (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 12:47 (seven years ago)

It’s like UKIP, there’s no need for them to exist now that they have achieved their aim (fixing politics which was broken)

shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 12:48 (seven years ago)

pm gapes pls

nxd, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 12:49 (seven years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnTpl93q3Bc

Captain ACAB (Neil S), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 12:51 (seven years ago)

never change, change uk

Aspen Jortstein (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 12:56 (seven years ago)

Andrew Rawnsley, after multiple Observer columns urging them to be brave break away and a couple of puff pieces after they did, has gone surprisingly quiet on CHUK lately.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 13:04 (seven years ago)

Also lol at the idea of representing three political parties within the space of a year. Has any MP ever done that before?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 13:07 (seven years ago)

Quick fact check on Oswald Mosley

wake me up when we get to Biffy Clyro (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 13:08 (seven years ago)

This is rather hilarious. How many weeks have they (barely) held on? Eight? Change we can believe in.

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 13:23 (seven years ago)

look, the only constant is change

that's why here at change uk, we believe in never having the same membership from week to week

it's the new politics, and if you don't like it, just give us a week

Aspen Jortstein (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 13:26 (seven years ago)

Watching the Trump-May conference at work and May’s death glare when they were asked about Corbyn and Khan was hilarious. Trump said he “doesn’t know” Corbyn but turned down Corbyn’s request to meet him, which will do Corbs no harm.

gyac, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 13:27 (seven years ago)

Lol May had to remind Trump of the question about the NHS being on the table in a future trade deal. This is the worst thing I ever watched.

gyac, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 13:29 (seven years ago)


The Mirror understands six MPs will return to being Independents but five plan to stay as part of Change UK.

gyac, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 13:31 (seven years ago)

Trump just said of the leadership candidates that he knows and likes “Boris” and “Jeremy” but he doesn’t know “Michael”. Lol ffs

Michael Gove is having a meeting with Donald Trump because Gove is Murdoch's puppet. So not only are we being sold off to Donald Trump but to the likes of Rupert Murdoch too. Taking back control Brexiteers? Oh no no no. https://t.co/HLtwEIRlMa

— Lightacandle (@lightacandleOTM) June 4, 2019

gyac, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 13:35 (seven years ago)

Corbyn has been critical of him, he says. He says he does not like people who are critical.

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 13:37 (seven years ago)

Trump just said of the leadership candidates that he knows and likes “Boris” and “Jeremy” but he doesn’t know “Michael”. Lol ffs

Ooft.

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 13:38 (seven years ago)

Also it takes a lot for me to feel sorry for Sajid Javid but apparently he wasn’t invited to the dinner last night.

gyac, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 13:41 (seven years ago)

Black tie/ white guy event.

John Harris is a Guardian columnist (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 13:45 (seven years ago)


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