Seizing back control: The ILX lol brexit is how we're all gonna die thread.

9 o'clock, man, obviously

Who’s dead dad’s on third

lol didn't have a campaign pause for Jo Cox either really as the leave campaign didn't respect it

So for the cucks who ran the remain campaign it's like: 'oh, a prominent remain supporter has been murdered by a fascist... let us immediately cease campaigning for a spell and leave the field clear for the people who are privately pleased by her murder'

Or the majority of remain campaigners were upset and horrified by the brutal murder of one of their colleagues?

Anyway, sorry but John McDonnell is bad now.

My mum worked for 30 years on the biscuit counter at BHS. She will be spinning in her grave. I can’t believe that Rich Tea and Jammy Dodgers didn’t come top. Moral of this story: never trust opinion polls

— John McDonnell MP (@johnmcdonnellMP) May 30, 2019

it's rough when you get old and have vivid memories of things that most young ppl are completely incredulous about. I'm an old bastard and have never seen a fucking biscuit counter in my life - but know many ppl (including my partner) who have done stints at Foxes Biscuits and they might have done some biscuit counting :p

Rich Tea?

The biscuit everyone puts up with if there's nothing else?

no hob nob in the top 5. let britain burn imo

if he'd have said Ginger Biscuits there might be hope for socialism.

Not everybody likes them, but those that do, love them.

Socialists?

Getting silly now...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48468241

lool. AI identity generation software is bloody awesome these days.

'Cablemania'

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DdENY4wWAAAF0Kr.jpg

is it just me or are those portraits of MPs in front of that gray background all quite bad. everyone looks so shiny and ruddy

"mark harper" not looking too ruddy but shiny as you like and that skin tone isn't right

Alastair Campbell has alleged the Labour party was discriminatory when expelling him for voting for the Liberal Democrats, given the number of other members who have not faced similar action despite publicly admitting they voted for another party.

Campbell, Tony Blair’s former spin doctor, has lodged an appeal against the expulsion, which came within 48 hours of him saying he had voted for the Lib Dems in the European parliamentary elections last week.

“I am told by my friends in the Labour party that they have been inundated with people resigning,” Campbell told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme on Friday. “Are they too going to be expelled within 48 hours of saying so?”

He said his lawyer had advised him to include a point about discrimination in his formal appeal.

“Is Cherie Blair going to be expelled? Is Bob Ainsworth going to be expelled? Is Charles Clarke going to be expelled?” Campbell asked, listing other Labour members who had spoken of voting elsewhere in the European elections.

god let's fuckin hope so

Can't expel them fast enough.

Like just join the lib dems

I wish Labour’s soft Brexit punt had worked, and unified Leavers and Remainers so the left could focus on fixing our broken economy.

But it hasn’t. Brexit is polarised between No Deal/Remain, and now the compromise position is a second referendum. Corbyn should campaign for one. https://t.co/oEZikgM1Ta

— Ash Sarkar (@AyoCaesar) May 31, 2019

Sarkar and Owen Jones are jumping the gun on this.

And it's only going to get worse. From the tweets I have seen Brexit Party will win in Peterborough next week.

With Peterborough only a week ago, can see Sakar and Jones are jumping the gun - but then the question becomes "when would it not be jumping the gun?"

or, maybe, "is there no gun to jump?'

pierce penniless and ronan burtenshaw (in tribune, linked upthread) analyses seemed like the most level headed takes on the EU ELX

can see the LDs jumping into bed with the tories again, tories then argue sacrificing no deal is the price of giving the country a stable government and now is the time to bring the country together in the national interest. going to be extremely edifying watching the whole swathe of sensible commentariat applaud this pivot to soft brexit as grown up statesmanlike leadership

I mean, if they can post things like this now with a straight face...

My position is I voted remain but I lost. I would like a compromise deal to leave on the softest possible terms, preserving as much as we can of the value of membership while also leaving. There is no party remotely close to this view.

— Philip Collins (@PCollinsTimes) May 23, 2019

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Our next PM:

🚨 Jo Swinson, interviewed by the BBC, refuses to say the naughtiest thing she's ever done. "I had fun in my teenage years"

— Dan Bloom (@danbloom1) May 31, 2019

saying"fuck the disabled" numerous times in her 30's was pretty naughty.

I would like a compromise deal to leave on the softest possible terms, preserving as much as we can of the value of membership while also leaving. There is no party remotely close to this view.

yeah, it's almost like this isn't an option or something i dunno

idiots like him have cynically muddied the waters on labour policy for the past three years. coupled with the hard remain wing of the party signal boosting this performative confusion at all turns - this has led to the collapse of the centre on brexit that matt DC was talking about above. worryingly, however, the aggro remainers’ leaning into the culture war has polarised the debate so much that any second ref looks increasingly likely that it will be fought between no deal and no brexit.

considering that (1) the underlying causes which led to the brexit vote in the first place have not been addressed and (2) there’s nothing in the past however many years that suggests the sensible establishment centre are well equipped to fight a culture war against the faragist right... well, may god have mercy on our souls.

also get pete willsman to fuck

Completely fine with no deal vs no brexit, but strongly agree on your last sentiment.

You love to gamble don't you?

I mean, you're the one who wants a Labour government and Corbyn as the leader - both at the same time is fairly unlikely.

because of the latest YouGov poll?

I think it's as likely as a number of other scenarios.

https://www.markpack.org.uk/155623/voting-intention-opinion-poll-scorecard/

there is a round up of latest polls on this page and the YouGov one with crazy LibDem surge is an outlier, although some of them are a couple of weeks older which is a long time in ..etc..

I've seen the future and it hurts

LD support no-deal brexit in return for a plastic bottle deposit scheme.

— Alistair McCay (@AlistairMcCay) May 31, 2019

I'd expect a good chunk of Lab people to go Lib dem as I expect Tories to go to the Brexit party (or Lib dem if they are Tory Remainers). Nobody knows what the end of game of all this will be.

I don't see what potential electoral outcomes have to do with me saying how utterly inept it is to be 'fine' with a no deal Vs no Brexit vote.

Liverpool fans have renamed Margaret Thatcher Square in Madrid to Jeremy Corbyn Square. pic.twitter.com/4my8WdbJ9e

— George Aylett (@GeorgeAylett) May 31, 2019

Vince Cable Square surely?

Willsman suspended now.

Nice they had a printer with them. xpost

I’m fine with it being hillary vs trump. people will NOT vote for the obviously awful option

I don't think anyone reliant on things like painkillers and epilepsy meds would consider putting that option on a ref.

https://www.ituc-csi.org/general-strike-in-argentina-29May

Great news from Argentina. Need general strikes everywhere.

Rory Stewart has outlined plans to play for Liverpool as a late first half substitution tomorrow night, and again for Spurs in the second half, as part of a new grassroots campaign. There are plans to livestream both substitutions, and if things go well, a free kick. In the spirit of spontaneity, Stewart has not yet revealed which corner he will be scoring in, or for which team.

"if anyone is around and wants to talk i'll be at the Wanda Metropolitano Stadium" he said.

Liverpool in Madrid with a "Maggie's still dead" banner 👌 pic.twitter.com/KlXLWARuFX

— 🇦🇷 viva bielsa 🇦🇷 (@benleeds94) May 31, 2019

God they know how to work the neutrals

OTM I'm not prepared to switch allegiance just yet though.