Seizing back control: The ILX lol brexit is how we're all gonna die thread.

she's a bad career politician and a supreme self-promoting narcissist and is on the blue labour wing. not much to like there for starters tbh!

made up a story about telling Diane Abbott to fuck off for reasons unknown

essentially is Owen Smith but with more media chums

can someone summarise the net result when ye are done here

i predict it will fall into one of two buckets:

i typed them out then self censored. this is a first btw.

"i am a working class lefty i just think it's important for the future of the party that i undermine the first left-of-centre leadership we've had in 30+ years at any available opportunity, in fact i'll make opportunities if necessary"

were they both swearwords in noun form?

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xp said that she’d stab Corbyn in the front if he displeased her, and then got all IT’S A METAPHOR when people complained about the violence in her imagery.

she said that not long before the Jo Cox murder as well iirc, but wasn't pressed as hard as McD was about saying he wanted Tories to be scared to walk the streets.

I might try and explain my fantastic joke later if Andrew keeps this up.

I had a feeling that Jess Phillips would irritate the musical snobs on here

https://tenor.com/view/thesimpsons-clowns-fire-gif-4515019

might run a poll on which ilxor is best at feigning bafflement when people don't like centrist running dogs

There are music snobs here?

xp or sidling in to deliver a kick like Dougal at the priests sports day

were they both swearwords in noun form?

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― FernandoHierro, Wednesday, 29 May 2019 11:27 (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

sir, "both" is i am afraid a thin estimate

I genuinely think we're agreeing loudly here, gyac - what I'm saying with "structural reasons" is what I thought you meant by "whose stories get told".

How exactly does his comment lead to those things?

Ah now I never said that - I don't think his joke is dangerous, just stupid and embarrassing.

My local MP is probably quite similar to Jess on the political spectrum and is good friends with Liz Kendall and definitely not a Corbynite. But she seems to have found a way of getting on with the job without being a grandstanding twitter arsehole every day or undermining the leadership at every possible opportunity.

Saddened to hear you don't like my joke Andrew. I will go back to the drawing board and reflect on where I have gone wrong. I will do better, promise.

xxp understand - I just meant nobody is making docudramas about DA & her battle against abuse (even though she objectively has a more interesting story 🙃)

Ties into yesterday's discussion about British emigrants:

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2019/may/29/john-cleese-criticised-for-saying-london-is-no-longer-an-english-city

“I find it hypocritical that someone who is actually living abroad feels the need to make a point like this,” she said. “Why do some British people not see themselves as immigrants if they’ve moved elsewhere? We see cases of British people referring to themselves as expats, detaching themselves from the term immigrant.”

Tbf Canadians and Americans do the same thing.

i mean it's pretty simple, brits are entitled to go anywhere in the world and be warmly welcomed by the natives but traffic going the other way isn't allowed

Expats are a benevolent force, striding the land in their pink trousers and with a pigeon’s head in their pocket to ward off the uppity natives. Immigrants are filthy hordes that leech and leech off a country. Duh!

i feel bad for fans of Legends of British Culture when they find out that their favourite Legend of British Culture is a wee bit conservative

rich white brits are not filthy immigrants in the same sense that they hunt for game on their expensive hols, not bushmeat.

Emigrants of the countries that are widely seen as desirable places for immigration, like the UK and the USA, get accustomed to questions that feel like accusations: "you left there to come here? why?" This sets up, in the minds of these emigrants, an envisaged dichotomy between immigrants & ex-pats; a dichotomy that one should resist! but a part of the lives of these immigrants, that feels like they oughtn't give up their identification as a person from the "desirable" countries. whereas identifying as an "immigrant" has a permanence to it that feels like closing off that past.

When you come from an uncouth country of lazy cheats and liars, you're generally expected to give up whatever worthless cultural bagage you may have amassed prior to ascending to civilization.

brits sunning themselves into perpetual lobsterdom on the costa del sol, refusing to learn spanish, eating full english breakfasts three times a day and mixing only with other lobsterbrits: good not bad

syrian engineers moving to hounslow to clean toilets, living in perpetual fear of forced repatriation, paying taxes, scraping enough money to send home every month: bad not good

Emigrants of the countries that are widely seen as desirable places for immigration, like the UK and the USA, get accustomed to questions that feel like accusations: "you left there to come here? why?"

Believe me, I'm forever asking that of immigrants to the filthy, overpriced, overcrowded shithole that is London.

I remember very strongly getting the bus from Gilmour Street Station in Paisley to my mum's house on a fucking awful dreary dreich West of Scotland day and thinking if this was much really of an improvement on Pałukawyl, Poland for the driver who'd just taken my fare.

lads

if we are to have a generically lazy brit bashing thread i feel it would go some way towards healing the wounds of a few weeks back if ye were to host it in its natural thread, the irish politics thread

can't believe my previous post itt, which took upwards of 60 seconds of typing to create, is being described as 'generically lazy' smdh

i spose i oughtnt have confused the effort required with the poor quality of the output, mea maxima culpa and all that

gimme my fuckin participation trophy goddammit

So bad

Some of us in the Labour Party have credibility to attack the Tories over Islamophobia because we’ve been relentless in also tackling antisemitism in the Labour Party. Others do not. This is a dreadful piece. https://t.co/3XisBD3XJX

— Wes Streeting MP (@wesstreeting) May 29, 2019

Whatever you think of the piece, telling a Muslim woman she doesn’t have the credibility to talk about Islamophobia seems pretty whack https://t.co/WMa6UZrbJv

— Abi Wilkinson (@AbiWilks) May 29, 2019

I didn’t say that. I said failing to tackle antisemitism within the Labour Party undermines credibility to attack the Tories. Or makes such attacks ‘whack’ as you might say.

— Wes Streeting MP (@wesstreeting) May 29, 2019

I am sorry that my tweet is being wilfully misinterpreted.

— Wes Streeting MP (@wesstreeting) May 29, 2019

i am sorry you are all such twats

-- wes

Ugh his likes

pls like to respect the referendum, RT for a second ref

The results of my Brexit poll are clear. 84% of Labour members and supporters who took the survey want an all-member ballot to decide our party's Brexit policy. As deputy leader I'll support them to make this happen. pic.twitter.com/2hZifRFby7

— Tom Watson (@tom_watson) May 29, 2019

presses F frantically

Wes Streeting has been relentlessly bad and despairing over the last few weeks. Here is hoping he'll resign.

some nice replies to tom there

I'm running a poll on your own timeline (in response to one of your previous posts). 63% of *your* followers want you expelled from the party, Tom. As the person who set up the poll, I'll support them to make this happen. pic.twitter.com/UficbT0yzB

— RD 🌹 Socialism is Coming (@CorbynByXmas) May 29, 2019

This is a piece on the Brexot lies case and it's massively weird.

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/boris-johnson-court-brexit-referendum-vote

“If you're an elected representative, one of the biggest parts of your job is to scrutinise, understand, examine public spending figures, public finances,” Ball says. “And if you've got a politician lying, about that, they're doing the opposite of what we need them to do.”

I don't know much about law but wouldn't it be fair to say a test case for prosecuting a pol for lying out of their arse is completely naive and doomed for obv reasons?

There will be a review of @campbellclaret being expelled from the Labour Party, shadow attorney general Shami Chakrabarti tells #r4today. "Merely voting for another party is not grounds for expulsion" https://t.co/ZjduCUaWHD pic.twitter.com/ul0BUKLP0l

— BBC Radio 4 Today (@BBCr4today) May 30, 2019

Hope lab don't back down on this

I heard this yesterday and the idea that as long as he didn't declare he was voting for LibDems during polling hours, then it doesn't do harm to the party is stretching credibility somewhat. ffs the cunt is undermining the party every day before they got him bang to rights any way... hopefully Campbell's just a stubborn turd that needs a 2nd flush!

almost tempted to start a crowdfunder to take down Arron Banks, then do a midnight flit to Latvia with the dosh.. that'd show Pom as well!

time for john mcdonnell to state plainly what we're all thinking: 'we ejected him because he's a cunt, end of'

My favourite John McD response was when he was asked about Ian Austin quitting the party and he was like “yeah supposedly”, like clearly not a single fuck given.

John McDonnell tells us he believes Ian Austin has left the Labour party. No one at Austin’s office is picking up the phone to tell us otherwise.

— Mike Hughes (@MikeHughesNews) February 21, 2019

Also triple posting as per, but can we sneer at Ianucci getting all outraged about us when Malcolm Tucker has an excellent go at Glenn for joining the Lib Dems in TTOI?!

don't dabble with the old H kids, or at least only dabble the finest opium and smoke it with a highly ornate Chinese brass pipe of course..

My old man died a few days before the euref. Like Jo Cox, his death was not the fault of any campaigners on either side. Yet we did not have a campaign pause to commemorate his death, but we did have for hers. I think that was wrong.

— Andrew Lilico (@andrew_lilico) May 30, 2019

His dad probably died after too much sherry and masturbation, not murdered by a far right extremist, so maybe Lolico talking shit again.