Seizing back control: The ILX lol brexit is how we're all gonna die thread.

An act of journalism from @matthewchampion pic.twitter.com/PHzvfAVAYq

— Tom Phillips (@flashboy) May 28, 2019

Spartacus II

Bob Ainsworth, defence secretary under Gordon Brown, is also set to be expelled after admitting to voting Green last week.

He said: 'When you see a guy being expelled from the party for doing exactly the same as you've done, you stick your hands up and say: 'I am Spartacus'.'

Seriously though, I imagine everyone outide of his immediate family has forgotten this Bob Carolgees clone ever existed.

The guy's not even been ennobled yet, that's how memorable his political career was.

just need hoey to admit to voting BXP

this is a good thread on the background to the auto exclusion process

Alistair Campbell did not get expelled for voting Lib Dem but for promoting another party (an austerity enabling party at that) & warning people not to vote Labour. We don’t tell people how to vote but our rules prevent support of candidates opposed to labour during an election 1

— Maria Carroll Labour PPC Carmarthen East (@Maria4CarmsEast) May 28, 2019

Alex Sobel for next leader

Civilisation series by Sid Meier

— (((Alex Sobel MP))) (@alexsobel) May 28, 2019

Not meaning to be snippy, gyac, but that's not news to me. I'm assuming you're not saying that it happens to every woman, so they should all have a thick skin, but if you're not saying that then I don't know what you're saying?

This was quite good:

https://www.lrb.co.uk/blog/2019/may/unhinged

yes, sets out a good view of the position we've reached but then doesn't say anything about what could or should happen next

Everybody who is a soft Left critic of team Corbyn has lost their fucking minds (of those that had minds to lose, that is).

This seems like a big deal:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/28/uk-and-territories-are-greatest-enabler-of-tax-avoidance-study-says

Researchers claim Pope Catholic etc.

Also a big deal.

Also unlikely to change.

you say that but in 2019…

That's a good LRB blog link, thanks.

I like how it says "prominent racist Stephen Yaxley-Lennon" instead of pussyfooting around with "rightwing activist" or his fake name.

I'm assuming you're not saying that it happens to every woman, so they should all have a thick skin, but if you're not saying that then I don't know what you're saying?

Well, you too could have a story worth telling if you affect to be a plain speaker but spend all your time cultivating the posh end of the media. ISTG the publisher who bought her book is called Jocasta.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/may/29/boris-johnson-appear-court-eu-referendum-misconduct-claims

Bozza's due in court

Martyrdom is nigh.

xxp they had a holiday home in France! It’s so ridiculous!

you're being chased by Rory Stewart, he wants to debate you. you jump in a taxi and escape. you breathe a sigh of relief. the driver turns around. it's Rory Stewart

— James (@Gilofthepeople) May 28, 2019

gyac, I get what you're saying, and I completely agree that we should hear much more about the abuse received by Diane Abbott (to the extent that she is comfortable with it), but "MP has rape jokes made about her by Gamergater and UKIP MEP candidate" is a fairly solid hook for a story.

(I also do have the impression that JP has gotten more than her fair share* of abuse, but then where am I getting that impression from and what's their angle)

Either way, that's the context which makes "let's troll JP off Twitter" at best a stupid thing to say.

*the actual fair share = 0

just came here to post the link to james butler's LRB blog, but i see it's here ahead of me

xp DA received over half the abuse received by all MPs, not sure what more she would need to do about it. Regardless, if I were a feminist I wouldn’t be so quick to brag about allegedly telling the most abused woman in Parliament to fuck off when I’d been elected like a week or something - people might wonder about your priorities.

Also going to point out that plenty of people, myself and comrade alphabetical obviously included, dislike JP for legitimate and well-founded reasons - it’s extremely bad faith on both of us to conflate, deliberately or otherwise, his joke about that with the vile rape and death threats she gets from fascists.

ok let's just agree to troll JP out of the Labour Party because she's a self-promoting enemy of socialism and the people

Original joke was "like we did with the war criminal" anyway and I don't think Alistair Campbell was taken down by twitter sexists so I think it's more differing definitions of trolling that are causing the debate here.

one of my local MPs Paula Sherriff needs bodyguards in Dewsbury because of death threats she's received. But she spends more of her time being a decent constituency MP rather than promoting her "brand" and gobshiting with idiot Corbynistas on twitter every day and talking about her fucking self all the time. All female MPs take lots of threats and abuse on social media, but she is the only one uniquely with a W Midlands accent still perhaps?

it's not even like pretending to be working class is original

Andrew can you please take a nap for an hour.

Ms Sherriff - whose constituency neighbours Batley and Spen, where Jo Cox was killed in 2016 - said she sometimes receives more than 1000 items of abuse per week.

if this is how much a low-key white female MP can get then imagine the industrial scale of work dealing with Abbott's office.. jesus.

xp DA received over half the abuse received by all MPs, not sure what more she would need to do about it.

I don't really think the onus is on her, it's due to structural reasons - the bit where I said I agreed with you, I was agreeing with you.

I'm not conflating the two, I'm pointing out that the one forms the context for the other.

What are the actual crimes of Jess Phillips? Not that I'm suggesting they'll justify the abuse, but I only ever hear about her on here, and it seems to be on the level on calzino's post up there.

think i've already mentioned self-promoting enemy of socialism and the people

My point is that she has spoken about it, repeatedly. Structure or not doesn’t have much to do with it.

I’m not sure where the thread should really go when you seem determined to place a stupid joke by xyzzzzzz_ on here as part of the same universe as targeted harassment and death threats organised by fascists? How exactly does his comment lead to those things?

Friend of Jacob Rees-Mogg.

(xp)

I mean I don’t blame JP for the media and moron political analysts mistaking opposing Corbyn for gravitas/integrity/a personality.

she's a bad career politician and a supreme self-promoting narcissist and is on the blue labour wing. not much to like there for starters tbh!

made up a story about telling Diane Abbott to fuck off for reasons unknown

essentially is Owen Smith but with more media chums

can someone summarise the net result when ye are done here

i predict it will fall into one of two buckets:

i typed them out then self censored. this is a first btw.

"i am a working class lefty i just think it's important for the future of the party that i undermine the first left-of-centre leadership we've had in 30+ years at any available opportunity, in fact i'll make opportunities if necessary"

were they both swearwords in noun form?

xpost

xp said that she’d stab Corbyn in the front if he displeased her, and then got all IT’S A METAPHOR when people complained about the violence in her imagery.

she said that not long before the Jo Cox murder as well iirc, but wasn't pressed as hard as McD was about saying he wanted Tories to be scared to walk the streets.

I might try and explain my fantastic joke later if Andrew keeps this up.

I had a feeling that Jess Phillips would irritate the musical snobs on here

https://tenor.com/view/thesimpsons-clowns-fire-gif-4515019